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PC is the superior platform. I will say this is as a PC gamer and someone who prefers PC for certain games. Being part of the "master race" is not all about putting your settings on ultra running games at 4k and 120fps. That's probably not even possible with the current hardware that's available. Especially with how poorly optimized most new games are. With the use of UE5 expected to only increase over time it's going to be extremely hard to get that level of performance. 1080p and 1440/2k will be the most common resolutions for quite a while longer. Even without UE5 you have demanding lighting techniques like Nvidia's raytracing which is going to kill performance. This is going to be adopted by more games and the traditional baked lighting that was always less hardware intensive is going to fall out of use. Raytracing and UE5 makes game development easier. Baked lighting is time consuming. The current mindset of developers is "screw optimization and performance we want to make these games faster and easier" but they are still going to increase the prices for the games. Most of the games that use UE5 are clearly aimed at consoles. I haven't seen a video where someone talks about a UE5 game and doesn't mention that the game runs better locked at 30 fps. This is console level of performance.

With the price of hardware and what's going on in the gaming industry with UE5 and raytracing I don't see the point in dumping a lot of money into a gaming PC. Unless you can build one for $1,000 or a little more, I wouldn't bother. I wouldn't spend any less than that. Most of the current games are trash. You can play older games on PC, and they usually don't need really powerful hardware to run well. Even on consoles where the console makers decided to try and compete with PC and push 4k gaming on their customer base the games are going to be downscaled and upscaled using DLSS and frame gen to get acceptable performance. Like I said I wouldn't dump a lot of money into building a PC, but I wouldn't cheap out on it either. If you do it, you want to have a decent experience.

I would avoid GPU's with 8GB of VRAM if you can. 8GB is already not enough for a lot of games. One of the better games released recently was Space Marine II and I believe it needed 16GB of VRAM to run well. Though this is also a bit of an optimization issue. Developers don't want to optimize games for 8GB anymore. I would also go for 32GB of RAM. A lot of the newer games have 32GB of ram listed in the recommended system requirements. 16GB is still ok but 32GB seems to be the way of the future. Don't bother with HDD's if you can help it and go right for SSD's. They don't even have to be M.2 NVME's. I only have 1 of them in my PC. I have two 4TB SSD's as storage as well. Get a good power supply. Never go cheap on the power supply. It's one of the most important parts of a PC build. Get a good power supply. I paid $125 for mine in 2016 and I am still using it a decade later. You want a full modular power supply. Trust me it makes building a PC that much easier.
 
im going to necro this thread because ive finally pulled the trigger on buying PC parts despite RAM being expensive as fuck. This build is about $500+ but i specifically picked this so i can upgrade almost everything with little issue

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
  • Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar MAX
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
  • Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 Micro-ATX
  • Power Supply: Corsair CX650F RGB 650W
  • Storage: Crucial P1 500GB NVMe SSD
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4‑3600

i plan on gaming and streaming on this computer so im going to upgrade the GPU to 4070 super, upgrade CPU to AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D, get an actual PC cooler, and upgrade the storage to 2TB
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
im going to necro this thread because ive finally pulled the trigger on buying PC parts despite RAM being expensive as fuck. This build is about $500+ but i specifically picked this so i can upgrade almost everything with little issue

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
  • Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar MAX
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
  • Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 Micro-ATX
  • Power Supply: Corsair CX650F RGB 650W
  • Storage: Crucial P1 500GB NVMe SSD
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4‑3600

i plan on gaming and streaming on this computer so im going to upgrade the GPU to 4070 super, upgrade CPU to AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D, get an actual PC cooler, and upgrade the storage to 2TB
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Good choice with the RAM, AMD CPUs prefer 3600 MHz RAM.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
im going to necro this thread because ive finally pulled the trigger on buying PC parts despite RAM being expensive as fuck. This build is about $500+ but i specifically picked this so i can upgrade almost everything with little issue

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
  • Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar MAX
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
  • Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 Micro-ATX
  • Power Supply: Corsair CX650F RGB 650W
  • Storage: Crucial P1 500GB NVMe SSD
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4‑3600

i plan on gaming and streaming on this computer so im going to upgrade the GPU to 4070 super, upgrade CPU to AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D, get an actual PC cooler, and upgrade the storage to 2TB
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Good shit man. What games you going to play on that pc?
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
i have no idea lol
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Wait until the next big Steam sale and stockpile the highest-rated games that go on sale for two or three bucks because everyone already has them. In the meantime, check Humble Bundle whenever they have a bundle that interests you, and Fanatical (Steam key reseller, but they’re legit and partnered with major publishers). That should get you a decent library for a few tens of dollars if you’re starting from zero.
 
Two Dollars said:
Wait until the next big Steam sale and stockpile the highest-rated games that go on sale for two or three bucks because everyone already has them. In the meantime, check Humble Bundle whenever they have a bundle that interests you, and Fanatical (Steam key reseller, but they’re legit and partnered with major publishers). That should get you a decent library for a few tens of dollars if you’re starting from zero.
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I don't remember the last time I watched a review. Discount size alone on Steam is a great indication of whether a game is worthwhile or not. Await a sale, put the range sub-$20 and buy the first page. You now own most games worth owning. Better yet: Browse Humble Bundle. Once a game enters a bundle, it's bound to drop to $1-5 on third-party key sites. It's actually nuts seeing people wait several years for a game to go on sale when it's cheaper than the processing fee on Kinguin.

Man, I wish I had a young nephew or something solely to give him a piece of paper with 20 keys worth 3500 hours totaling maybe $65.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
im going to necro this thread because ive finally pulled the trigger on buying PC parts despite RAM being expensive as fuck. This build is about $500+ but i specifically picked this so i can upgrade almost everything with little issue

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
  • Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar MAX
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
  • Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 Micro-ATX
  • Power Supply: Corsair CX650F RGB 650W
  • Storage: Crucial P1 500GB NVMe SSD
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4‑3600

i plan on gaming and streaming on this computer so im going to upgrade the GPU to 4070 super, upgrade CPU to AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D, get an actual PC cooler, and upgrade the storage to 2TB
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i got completely fucking cucked by ebay because the motherboard they sent me was a piece of shit
 
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