🐱 How one subreddit is fighting hate on its own platform - “We appear where there is fascism and we leave when it’s gone. We are the antibodies of the nation’s blood.”

  • 🔧 Issue with uploading attachments resolved.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
CatParty

For all of the ways it has connected people to each other and noble causes, mainstream social media remains a gigantic cesspool of racism and violent ideation. And social media giants Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit still seem to struggle in getting a handle on it.

This isn’t the anarchic world of far-right spheres like Voat and 8chan, where virtually no attempt is made to police content. These are the sites that average, non-racist people use every day for work, communication, newsgathering, and entertainment.


And they continue to be overrun by trolls and racism.

Uber-message board Reddit has seen some of the worst of this trend, with an endless stream of subreddits revolving around anti-Semitism, misogyny, white nationalism, conspiracy theories, and harassment. The notoriously anti-moderation Reddit has taken action against a few, including outright banning subs devoted to the QAnon conspiracy, racial violence, and the “incel” movement. It’s also quarantined some others. But mostly, Reddit relies on up or down votes from users to push content to the top, or drop it to the bottom, of subreddits.

But for the users of Against Hate Subreddits (AHS), such hands-off moderation and self-policing simply aren’t enough. Started in 2016, r/AgainstHateSubreddits came together as a way to spotlight and collect hate, racism, and bigotry in communities all over “the front page of the Internet,” and to organize trolling/downvoting campaigns against it. Reddit, they say, simply isn’t doing enough to make users aware of the hate on the site.

AHS users the Daily Dot spoke with said that the creation of the sub was due to Reddit’s inaction over the pervasive racism, homophobia, and outright fascism in major right-wing leaning threads.

“Media and their bottom-line is seemingly all [Reddit] cares about,” r/AgainstHateSubreddits mod -Ph03niX- told the Daily Dot. “[It’s gotten] to the point where disinfo, hate and radicalism is preferable to them over those who’re trying to do the opposite and expel the garbage from the site.”

Far from harmless trolling, as many Reddit users claim they’re engaged in, AHS sees the rise of hate threads as a menace to critical thinking, and a gateway to truly violent hate groups.

“We believe that this subreddit could serve to avert people on the border from falling into echo chambers of bigotry,” the sub’s FAQ states, “by providing sources or refutations against common claims circulating in bigoted subreddits, and by providing ample evidence of the general shittiness of such subreddits.”

And it’s this urge that drives many members to join.

“I studied about what [fascism] might look like if it came to America. I saw frightening similarities,” added user Canadian Mist. “AHS has been incredibly effective in shining a spotlight on white supremacist subreddits. They routinely drag fascist subs out of the dark, and they are quarantined or banned within weeks.”

AHS also keeps a running list of hate subreddits, links to debunkings of oft-cited racist crime statistics, and refutation of some of the biological and historical misinformation that “race realists” often use in their fallacious arguments.

The sub that faces the wrath of AHS the most is, by far, the rabidly pro-Trump sub r/The_Donald. The largest and most prolific of Reddit’s MAGA subs, T_D, as it’s often abbreviated, is a place where Trump acolytes gather to exalt the man they often refer to as “god emperor” and organize harassment campaigns against Trump’s enemies.

The sub has also been the source of some of the most widely-shared Trump and conspiracy theory memes the internet has seen in the past few years—including a few shared by Trump himself—along with violent content and paeans to mass shooters. AHS has routinely spotlighted some of the sub’s worst offenses and calls for the death of various liberals and Democrats.

In fact, of the top 20 all-time threads on AHS, virtually all are related to T_D or its most prolific users.

In June, following death threats posted on T_D against public officials and police in Oregon in the aftermath of a failed attempt to pass a climate bill, Reddit quarantined the sub, putting an opt-in page before users could click onto it, and removing it from Google searches.

In a statement, Reddit claimed it was the “repeated rule-breaking behavior” of the sub that eventually led to the quarantine, and it’s likely that much of this came to Reddit’s attention via mass reporting by AHS.

Even before that, Reddit banned neo-Nazi sub and frequent AHS target r/physical_removal after outcries from AHS users in the aftermath of the Charlottesville riot. They also bannedalt-right populated subs r/uncensorednews and r/European thanks to AHS-led mass reporting campaigns.

Beyond Trump’s most rabid fans, the sub has also fought transphobia in subs like r/LBGDroptheT, conspiracy theories in r/conservative, anti-Semitism pretty much all over Reddit, and subs devoted to individual alt-right or racial theory figures.

Conspiracy theories and the rampant growth of r/conspiracy are so entwined with the far-right that AHS mod -Ph03niX- even started an alternative conspiracy sub, r/ConspiracyII, in “an effort to try and nudge the people from the incredibly toxic /r/conspiracy sub into better modes of thought.”

While it’s gotten better thanks to bans and quarantines, Reddit still routinely fails to police sexism, racism, homophobia, and violent ideation, “unless it gets out into the press and threatens their advertising revenue,” as AHS user RaceCarLock told Daily Dot.

The people who post in what AHS deems “hate subreddits” are not especially big fans of AHS.

Conservative news site Red State has disparagingly called AHS “Reddit’s version of [far-left site] Media Matters,” and one Reddit user even started a change.org petition to stop Reddit from “censorship” of subs AHS users have campaigned against. At press time, it has 13 signatures.

No matter what, AHS users don’t plan on stopping their campaigns until Reddit takes more action.

“Anti-fascism exists only to oppose fascism,” Canadian Mist told Daily Dot. “We appear where there is fascism and we leave when it’s gone. We are the antibodies of the nation’s blood.”
 
Antifa Idiot said:
“We appear where there is fascism and we leave when it’s gone. We are the antibodies of the nation’s blood.”
I thought appointing yourselves the white blood cells of the body politic was rather fascistic.
 
“Anti-fascism exists only to oppose fascism,” Canadian Mist told Daily Dot. “We appear where there is fascism and we leave when it’s gone. We are the antibodies of the nation’s blood.”

This quote is the epitome of Reddit. If there's one thing I can't fucking stand, it's people who think they're vigilantes for talking on the Internet and getting websites and communities shut down. You're not the antibodies of the nation's blood, you're the fucking appendix: you do nothing to improve society, and people actively seek out to remove you for being dead weight.

All this subreddit seeks out to do is witch hunt and mass flag communities they don't like for simply existing. Literally doesn't matter if they're doing anything wrong. Even subreddits like /r/TopMindsofReddit, as gay and pretentious as they are, serve to merely criticize these communities. All these people do is silence others.

Let this cancerous platform die already, along with Dumblr.

Reddit's not going to die anytime soon. It has a larger community of people, a larger purpose behind using it, and it's far easier to use than Tumblr, especially if you want something to become viral. I fucking despise Reddit and everything about it, yet I'm still forced to use it when I need help with something I'm working on.

It sucks because Reddit is undoubtedly one of the biggest cancers facing the modern Internet (alongside Twitter), but it is what it is.
 
This is shitredditsays 2.0

These people have horribly boring lives and this provides them with a purpose.

Isn't that the purpose of social media in general? Back on topic this subreddit sounds like Mission: Myspace for a new decade. "Clean, lulz-free, and full of fail" as ED described fits to a T.
 
Reddit is what happens when you shit yourself while having an abortion.

And these social media brigades are going to kill the sites they think they are saving so I wish them Godspeed.
 
When will these people learn that banning and quarentining groups they don't like doesn't work?
Never. These losers will go to their graves clinging desperately to the notion that they can simply shout down everyone they hate and make the world "a better place" in the process.
 
By jove they must have achieved many of their goals if deserving such a lengthy and considered write up. The alt right will surely be a thing of the past by next year.
 
They’re now facing numerous accusations of posting kiddie porn on burner accounts in order to bring down targets.

Yes, I’m aware that this is all the same sub. The easy and truthful answer to that is that all the other ones have been banned.

Clearly an effective strategy, but one that may prove costly. Several have lodged reports to the FBI, and CEOP in the UK.



 
They’re now facing numerous accusations of posting kiddie porn on burner accounts in order to bring down targets.

Yes, I’m aware that this is all the same sub. The easy and truthful answer to that is that all the other ones have been banned.

Clearly an effective strategy, but one that may prove costly. Several have lodged reports to the FBI, and CEOP in the UK.




The supposed "moral crusaders" over at AHS are the exact type of people I'd expect to possess CP.
 
They’re now facing numerous accusations of posting kiddie porn on burner accounts in order to bring down targets.

Yes, I’m aware that this is all the same sub. The easy and truthful answer to that is that all the other ones have been banned.

Clearly an effective strategy, but one that may prove costly. Several have lodged reports to the FBI, and CEOP in the UK.




Is it Dan Olsen again?
 
One of Reddit's founders killed himself because he was gonna go to prison for fighting for freedom of information and expression... and most of Reddit doesn't even know who he is...

That place is a dystopian hellhole - almost a representation of the wests fall even.
 
Back
Top Bottom