How do I make therapy better?

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Yeah, sorry. I don't know why I'm speaking rigidly. I'm very anti-phony so I dunno why I'm coming off as an HR spokesperson right now.
Because your profession is a secular replacement for one of the most spiritual practices humanity engages in, and secularism is all about stripping away the soul from society and its very clearly done it to you.
>Why is it former national socialist?
I got sick of being so angry all the time.
You were almost certainly more of a human being when you were LARPing as an adherent to a retarded dead 20th century ideology then you are now.
 
What's the difference between ranting and complaining to a therapist vs to a friend/partner/family member? Or a stranger? I mean, we are trained listeners, so there might be something special there. Or trained listening could be bullshit too.
Therapists are paid to listen to you and regular people aren't. The average Joe probably has friends and family but how do you have a deep conversation with them when they live in a different universe than you? For example, good luck explaining something like dropkiwifarms to someone who's whole worldview is mass hysteria downloaded from cable news. Any conversation that isn't small talk about the weather devolves into a meaningless argument because we live in the mouse utopia and everyone has been trained from birth for generations to attack dissent on sight. A therapist is someone you can just rant to but you could probably get the same experience with an LLM/painted vollyball/guides on /x/ for summoning a demon gf for a fraction of the price.

This is why I'm asking what you want in a therapist. We do have therapists that are pushing their agendas. Pushing our values onto clients goes directly against the ethics code, but therapists seem to make an exception if they have liberal ideas.
Seeing people like Idubbbz and Boogie who act as though everyone is born as some broken husk of a person and you have to spend your life going to therapy to become whole again is the main reason I never had any interest, even when I'm feeling some type of way. To these people and the therapists who push this stuff it basically is a religion along the lines of Jehovah's Witnesses and it's real eerie to watch someone fall into it, especially when they start taking drugs and they get that dead-eyed stare or troon out.

Yeah, sorry. I don't know why I'm speaking rigidly. I'm very anti-phony so I dunno why I'm coming off as an HR spokesperson right now.
I mentioned the mouse utopia earlier and I think the overly sanitized nature of everything is a big part of it. Every interaction with everything is optimized corpo speak designed to be as euphamistic and inoffensive as possible like that hideous art style every company uses or GUIs where it's all rounded and flattened to look like a toy for children. Talking to someone who sounds like a chatbot that always respons to whatever you tell it with positivity and agreement even when it totally ignores your prompt is really annoying, but at the same time being a raving psycho hell bent on imprinting your insane ideology onto your victims patients isn't much better. There's probably some nice middle ground where they both want to help you work through stuff and also have enough edge for it to feel human but the only example of this I can think of is LLMs having occasional moments of brilliance where it seems almost insightful in between pages of Twilight fanfiction quality slop,

>I recently discovered a lot of zoomers are scared of old people so it's no wonder they don't know shit, and so they seek therapists to teach them the hard learned life lessons they aren't learning from family or community members
Bowling Alone again. Also, why are they scared of old people?
I have not seen anyone afraid of old people but I can confirm that what little knowledge gets passed down is useless out of date nonsense like "just give them a firm handshake" or "put 50% of your money into bonds" that was irrelevant a quarter century ago.

That's the goal, for them to not have to pay us anymore.
Having a monetary incentive to keep someone unwell (or convince them that they are) forever is probably not a good way to encourage actual treatment. Maybe if you just paid a big lump sum for all your sessions when you were done there wouldn't be as many hacks just trying to create returning customers.
 
I want to hear your thoughts on therapy and how to make it better.
first you get rid of everything the jew freud said, but as a natsoc you probably already done that
the field of psychology is incredibly jewish, and this jewishness has to be purged from it
then you get rid of all the medication, ssri's and so on
you replace them with psychedelics, and essentially specialize in trip-sitting, creating a comfortable environment for your patient where he can do shadow-work and confront his problems that way
I know the link looks suspicious, but I'm not phishing.
your link blocks my vpn, so i know you are fishing
Do all therapists have to sell their soul to the devil and as a result cannot understand what it is like to be an actual human because you're all a bunch of soulless golems
the jungian approach is the opposite of that
 
Because your profession is a secular replacement for one of the most spiritual practices humanity engages in, and secularism is all about stripping away the soul from society and its very clearly done it to you.

You were almost certainly more of a human being when you were LARPing as an adherent to a retarded dead 20th century ideology then you are now.
>your profession is a secular replacement for one of the most spiritual practices humanity engages in
There is definitely a hole left by the erosion of religion. I know plenty of religious people who are hurting, though. Plenty with religious trauma too.
Therapy is a secular corruption of the sacrament of reconciliation (confession), the only way to make it better is to cease its practice.
I have no issue with confession. Let them seek it out if they want to, and let no one peer pressure anyone into choosing therapy over confession.
first you get rid of everything the jew freud said, but as a natsoc you probably already done that
the field of psychology is incredibly jewish, and this jewishness has to be purged from it
then you get rid of all the medication, ssri's and so on
you replace them with psychedelics, and essentially specialize in trip-sitting, creating a comfortable environment for your patient where he can do shadow-work and confront his problems that way

your link blocks my vpn, so i know you are fishing

the jungian approach is the opposite of that
Shadow-work is great. So are psychedelics, under the right environment.
Not sure why you had an issue with your VPN, sorry bout that. I tried it with Mullvad and it worked fine.
Just tell them to stop it.
 
Any conversation that isn't small talk about the weather devolves into a meaningless argument because we live in the mouse utopia and everyone has been trained from birth for generations to attack dissent on sight. A therapist is someone you can just rant to but you could probably get the same experience with an LLM/painted vollyball/guides on /x/ for summoning a demon gf for a fraction of the price.
Besides paying, what's the difference there? Different universes, like you said.
How do we psychoanalyze cows so thoroughly? They come from different universes than you or me. It's empathy, clearly. And maybe seeing a small part of us in them.
Seeing people like Idubbbz and Boogie who act as though everyone is born as some broken husk of a person and you have to spend your life going to therapy to become whole again is the main reason I never had any interest, even when I'm feeling some type of way.
"You are broken/nothing without therapy" is the message there, which isn't true. Hopefully a therapist can help you embody your true self. Warts and all (shadow work).
Talking to someone who sounds like a chatbot that always respons to whatever you tell it with positivity and agreement even when it totally ignores your prompt is really annoying, but at the same time being a raving psycho hell bent on imprinting your insane ideology onto your victims patients isn't much better.
Part of the reason I'm being so positive/milquetoast is that I don't want to influence anybody's opinion if they do take the survey. That's biased research. I'm not lying to anybody here, but I'm also not arguing with them.
There's probably some nice middle ground where they both want to help you work through stuff and also have enough edge for it to feel human but the only example of this I can think of is LLMs having occasional moments of brilliance where it seems almost insightful in between pages of Twilight fanfiction quality slop,
Another middle ground is between being absurd/confrontational/crazy and having liability issues.
I've had great experiences with ChatGPT.
Having a monetary incentive to keep someone unwell (or convince them that they are) forever is probably not a good way to encourage actual treatment. Maybe if you just paid a big lump sum for all your sessions when you were done there wouldn't be as many hacks just trying to create returning customers.
That's unethical but I imagine some therapists do that. The stipend idea is pretty good.
 
You need to add Analyst to your CV. Nothing better in therapy than an Analrapist.
 
using chatgpt as a shrink must be one of the worst things one can do, maybe one step below giving money to a jew for shrinking you
I mean using it for my own issues, lol... well, actually, I have asked it for some things and it's been helpful. For example, a client who is fat says "I'm fat." How do I respond to that? It hasn't come up yet but I'm sure it will.
You need to add Analyst to your CV. Nothing better in therapy than an Analrapist.
I don't probe, personally. Psychically or otherwise.
 
a client who is fat says "I'm fat." How do I respond to that?
kinda depends on if the client is fat or a girl with eating disorder

fat client is easy:
>yes you are
>but thats not why you are here
>you are here because you want to feel better about being fat
>well, shit luck, im not gonna do that, therapy aint about lying to yourself!
>if you want to feel better why come to me instead of doing some sports and count calories?
>first start by replacing all soda with tea with a spoon of honey, and eat less than 1500kcals a day
>you should also do some sports
>if you feel like you cant do it, come back for remoralization


anabolica chick is harder, the obvious, but dangerous, way would be to ignore everything she has to say about being fat and derive her of attention, try to find out if she has other underlying issues you might be able to solve, get her to take up some hobby she can use to gather attention, idk crocheting seems to be in trend and she can make cute stuff
ban her from posting pictures of herself or anything at all about weight on social media, the only thing shes allowed to post is crocheting stuff (or the hobby in question)
, ideally limit her to some forum thats hobby specific so she doesnt see pictures of other girls either
you can use the parental controls features in her smartphone for that
 
Therapy can be made better by simply finding someone close to you to use as a sounding board. This is often your chosen partner, a best friend, or a close family member (mother, father, favorite cousin or uncle, for example). Someone who understands your own complexities enough to be able to give you sound advice but is removed enough from the situation you're worried about is what you need, not some person who knows nothing about you, at all, and who psychoanalyzes every sentence you speak.
 
kinda depends on if the client is fat or a girl with eating disorder
Makes sense to me. They are two pretty different scenarios. Some clients, if they were fat at any point, especially when they were kids, still feel that way. Same with gymcels. They often still feel insecure and weak inside, even if their body no longer suggests that. Even if they have admirers and sexual success. RIP Zyzz.
Therapy can be made better by simply finding someone close to you to use as a sounding board. This is often your chosen partner, a best friend, or a close family member (mother, father, favorite cousin or uncle, for example). Someone who understands your own complexities enough to be able to give you sound advice but is removed enough from the situation you're worried about is what you need, not some person who knows nothing about you, at all, and who psychoanalyzes every sentence you speak.
Having friends or family you can turn to helps a lot.
By "psychoanalyzes every sentence you speak", that rings like "judging" and "intruding" and giving whys rather than love and support. A therapist can only give you certain kinds of love, because of boundaries. But they can show you a deep care and empathy, human-to-human.
 
Makes sense to me. They are two pretty different scenarios. Some clients, if they were fat at any point, especially when they were kids, still feel that way. Same with gymcels. They often still feel insecure and weak inside, even if their body no longer suggests that. Even if they have admirers and sexual success. RIP Zyzz.

Having friends or family you can turn to helps a lot.
By "psychoanalyzes every sentence you speak", that rings like "judging" and "intruding" and giving whys rather than love and support. A therapist can only give you certain kinds of love, because of boundaries. But they can show you a deep care and empathy, human-to-human.
How does this forum make you a better therapist? Which type of therapy are you trained in or do you practice?
 
A therapist can only give you certain kinds of love, because of boundaries. But they can show you a deep care and empathy, human-to-human.
"Empathy," and, "love," are not the same things. They're simply portions of a greater whole. Therapists cannot show you any form of genuine love (and I mean this by the popular definition of love, not the deeper meaning that use other words in other languages). If they do then they are violating the entire point of their practice.

The bigger issue, at hand, is that a therapist can care but they aren't connected with you in the way someone you're close to is. If I am experiencing a deep, personal issue then a therapist may be able to help me figure out how to move past it. It works for some people and I won't deny that. But no amount of therapy will ever hold a candle to seeking wise counsel from a friend who isn't directly involved and has a deep understanding of your flaws and methodologies.
 
How does this forum make you a better therapist? Which type of therapy are you trained in or do you practice?
I'm not on here much, especially not since Cobra passed. I can't say it makes me have any more faith in humanity. It does help me appreciate the weird people out there, who live, fundamentally, like the rest of us. Not much surprises me anymore. It's not a numbness or embitterment, but an ability to deeply accept and work with whomever comes my way.

I am a humanistic and Gestalt therapist. I'm all about integrating the body and the mind. I think there is a lot of power in here-and-now awareness, especially for autists like myself who are caught up in their own heads.
"Empathy," and, "love," are not the same things. They're simply portions of a greater whole. Therapists cannot show you any form of genuine love (and I mean this by the popular definition of love, not the deeper meaning that use other words in other languages). If they do then they are violating the entire point of their practice.
Love like romantic/affectional love? That would be violating ethics and boundaries. But what do you mean by "the entire point of their practice"?
But no amount of therapy will ever hold a candle to seeking wise counsel from a friend who isn't directly involved and has a deep understanding of your flaws and methodologies.
You experience that? What an amazing friend you have. I think many people do not have a friend like that. Or they might have good friends, but there's a part of themselves they're ashamed to show their friends, or they did show them and they got judged or misunderstood. Seeing a therapist might help at that point.
 
Love like romantic/affectional love?
Not romantic but yes on the affectionate side. A therapist shouldn't approach that level and to use the term, "love," without expressly stipulating a more specific form (ie: agape, eros, etc) then I question if you are actually looking at what a proper therapist is meant to do.

Seeing a therapist might help at that point
I don't necessarily disagree, but some person you're paying to affirm and psychoanalyze you isn't going to do much more than give you a voice saying, "just let yourself be you." At that point I could just use character.ai or something.
 
I am a humanistic and Gestalt therapist. I'm all about integrating the body and the mind. I think there is a lot of power in here-and-now awareness, especially for autists like myself who are caught up in their own heads.
Do you incorporate other therapies into your practice? Why did you end up choosing to practice Gestalt therapy? Are there any therapies you avoid?
 
I don't necessarily disagree, but some person you're paying to affirm and psychoanalyze you isn't going to do much more than give you a voice saying, "just let yourself be you." At that point I could just use character.ai or something.
"Just be yourself" can limit your process of becoming who you are. On the flipside of that, there is self-acceptance. You think about mistakes you've made in the past and things you haven't done yet in the future, but right now, in this nanosecond, as you sit here, is there anything wrong with you?

The above two are not mutually exclusive. They're easy to say, hard to fully internalize, especially when you've been telling yourself the opposite your whole life.
Do you incorporate other therapies into your practice? Why did you end up choosing to practice Gestalt therapy? Are there any therapies you avoid?
I do incorporate other therapies. If it's something outside humanistic/Gestalt but the client is responding well to it, or they request it, then I'll use it (within my scope of practice). I chose Gestalt because it works well and I feel most at home in it. Also, I think it is especially effective for our generation, who has been raised on logic, bureaucracy, corporatization, and structure in all the wrong places (not in family, fewer "third spaces" for kids and adolescents).

Therapies I avoid... conversion therapy I guess? I avoid flooding and exposure therapy if the client is not ready for something like that. It's not that they don't work at some point for some clients, but doing that right out of the gate can retraumatize someone. I think sometimes clients expect to have to share their whole story in the first session. When they start telling me about something traumatic, I will often stop them. I'll reassure them that they don't have to go into it if it's distressing, and warn them that it can be retraumatizing. You can do some trauma therapies, like EMDR, without even talking about the trauma.
 
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