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Dog has been rehomed with an American Bulldog rescue. Dog will be working with behaviorist at rescue so he can be rehomed. Dog was able to play with Husky fren one last time in the yard as we spoke to rescue staff. Sibling and family cried when he left.
 
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I need more information but as a Pitbull owner of several decades best way to help this dog is socialise him.
Walks around other dogs on a short leash, harness & muzzle if you can handle it.
You mention the arm socket on a leash is that the equipment or you don't have a bit of stance on you?
Collars allow a dog to pull on a lead but in a harness (chest plate type) they can't actually go anywhere except standup a bit on their back legs. They do make those shock cord leads with a bit of give in them but I don't advise them for now in this learning stage. You just gotta be prepared for it don't just walk them all casual like it's a corgi or something. Failing all that get the waist leash. Or a piece of chain & rope.
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The first step sounds like dedicating undemanding time with him. Depending on how he reacts, you could try sitting in a space with him and reading to him. Reward him approaching you calmly. Sounds very vocal - may talk back at you while you read.

But the undemanding time is important to building up the dog's confidence. It will come to see you as a source of rest and not stress.
 
The first step sounds like dedicating undemanding time with him. Depending on how he reacts, you could try sitting in a space with him and reading to him. Reward him approaching you calmly. Sounds very vocal - may talk back at you while you read.

But the undemanding time is important to building up the dog's confidence. It will come to see you as a source of rest and not stress.
Dog doesn't make any noise with family, only strangers. Jumps on family, lots of tail wags. Big puppydog eyes when seeing people eat.

Dog actually made a friend a few months ago with a neighborhold female Husky. The Husky was very energetic, very friendly, and once jumped into my car (I guess she assumed any car is a good car). Husky is kept locked inside her owner's home in similar situation to sibling's dog. I wish I could adopt them both.
 
Dog doesn't make any noise with family, only strangers. Jumps on family, lots of tail wags. Big puppydog eyes when seeing people eat.

Dog actually made a friend a few months ago with a neighborhold female Husky. The Husky was very energetic, very friendly, and once jumped into my car (I guess she assumed any car is a good car). Husky is kept locked inside her owner's home in similar situation to sibling's dog. I wish I could adopt them both.
That's good, he is not so far gone that he has abandoned all his doggy social skills.

The "undemanding time" is important for fearful, anxious animals. It's very dull and hard to explain to people who want to do things. But the dog lives in a stressful environment. The time and the reading, it's a form of undemanding, yet active engagement. Once the dog sees you as a source of inner calm you can try things like keeping them on a leash as you move around the house and outdoors. Then you can try some more dedicated training type tasks.
 
I'm starting to realize why China has the attitude it does on animals, because it's becoming clear that the mentally and emotionally underdeveloped can't wrap their heads around the general concept of pet ownership.

If it just made their life miserable that would be one thing, but it makes everyone else's life miserable too. And if given the opportunity they will always take it. It's like some form of pathological self-harming behavior.

Anyways idk, get a shock collar and zap it whenever it barks? Get a .22 and a shovel? Shitty misbehaved dogs are useless and have no purpose for existing.
 
First I recommend keeping the dog with you(doesnt need to be permanent) dogs need alot of attention from their owners they crave pack validation and it doesn't sound like your sibling's family can swing that kind of effort at the moment.

Second: I believe a lot of issues dog's have with things they are afraid of can be mitigated by exposing them slowly but surely to those things while letting them know you are there for them. Find people sympathetic to your problem and let them know they may get bitten. If loud noises bother the dog play music at a semi loud volume or as loud as you think the dog can handle my dog never barks or gets startled by thunder or fireworks because I like to listen to my music loud so he grew up getting accustomed to loud noises.

Third: Never hit the dog hard as a discipline measure ever. A quick tap on the snout is more than enough and a loud and stern voice does wonders. Edit to Add: You or whoever is attempting to help this dog has to be stern but not harsh the dog needs to know it fucked up but not terrified of the discipline. Also discipline has to be applied quickly after the dog does something wrong, dogs don't remember quite like we do so waiting too long can confuse him as to why he is being treated this way.

Fourth: The dog needs to be loved, Dogs are extremely social animals and I have seen a gentle touch and the right amount of love turn terrible dogs (that where also extremely mistreated) into decent dogs.

Fifth: Plenty of exercise can help immensely. Two long walks a day can mellow out even the most spastic of dogs.

Ill think of more ideas and post them when I do
 
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So since your sibling is thinking of forfeiting the dog... I know shelters are out of the question here, but you could look around and see if there are any organizations that brand themselves as a "rescue" nearby, particularly if they're into having people foster animals before they're adopted. That crowd usually loves bully breeds, and are forgiving to a fault, plus fostering would be good for a dog who isn't getting enough attention.

Ideally, you might want to look for a breed-specific rescue organization for American Bulldogs or bully breeds. There might not be one in your city, but there's likely one in your state or that serves several nearby states.
 
The problem's gonna solve itself when the dog turns on the person hitting it and has to get put down because people are retarded.
I spank my dog like I spanked my kids. Dogs are like toddlers and need to be treated as such. They need lots of love but also lots of discipline. You have to set clear boundaries and stick to them. The dog will pick up on it just like a child will and eventually you won't have to spank it as much as it learns right from wrong. If you take it too far into the realm of abuse though you end up with other problems just like with kids.

Anyways idk, get a shock collar and zap it whenever it barks? Get a .22 and a shovel? Shitty misbehaved dogs are useless and have no purpose for existing.
Agreed, but generally shitty misbehaved dogs come from shitty misbehaved people. I think their owners should get the .22 and shovel treatment as well. I'm almost certain @Crystal Coomer copy and pasted that from somewhere, but OP's relative deserves the same treatment as the dog.
 
I spank my dog like I spanked my kids. Dogs are like toddlers and need to be treated as such. They need lots of love but also lots of discipline. You have to set clear boundaries and stick to them. The dog will pick up on it just like a child will and eventually you won't have to spank it as much as it learns right from wrong. If you take it too far into the realm of abuse though you end up with other problems just like with kids.
That's literally so retarded I don't know where to begin. Dogs are not like toddlers, dogs are not equal intelligence to toddlers, dogs are not human, dogs do not understand why you are spanking them, all they understand is that you're going to hit them. They don't have the mental capacity to understand. Also hitting toddlers is retarded too. Stop being a retard.
 
unless you have a lot of time and money to spend on this dog, your best bet is to euthanize, for the safety of your family and for others. this dog, through no fault of its own, is now a menace, and it is only a matter of time before it hurts another dog, or a child, and then you will get sued into oblivion for the resulting damage. its a shit situation, but not much can be done at this point, except to make sure your sibling doesnt get another dog to fuck up.
 
The Husky was very energetic, very friendly, and once jumped into my car (I guess she assumed any car is a good car). Husky is kept locked inside her owner's home in similar situation to sibling's dog
Was your car in the neighbor's house?
 
That's literally so retarded I don't know where to begin. Dogs are not like toddlers, dogs are not equal intelligence to toddlers, dogs are not human, dogs do not understand why you are spanking them, all they understand is that you're going to hit them. They don't have the mental capacity to understand. Also hitting toddlers is retarded too. Stop being a retard.
Sounds to me like you are underestimating the mental capabilities of dogs and I hope you don't have kids. My sister never spanked her kid. Her kid is horrible. My kids are well behaved, mostly well mannered, and a delight to be around. My niece is a wretch who only thinks about herself and will dress down her own mother as my sister shrinks away. It's a pitiful sight. My kids have an open invitation to take me on. I've told them that their whole lives. There will come a crossover point where I am no longer as strong as they are and If I have played my cards right they will start taking care of me and discipline me for calling the nurses niggers. If I haven't played my cards right they will outright kill me and that is an approved option. Maybe I just have the worlds smartest dog but If you treat him like a three year old it just works. My dog is with me 24/7 365. He even has his own supervisor's office at work. He lays up there in a pile of blankets watching over everyone until he is called for, it's lunch time, or some stranger comes around he needs to bark at to let me know they are there. He sees hundreds of people and interacts with all of them differently according to how they interact with him. I've had dogs my entire life and I think I've finally gotten it right this time around. I have less time with children, but things seem to be going ok so far. I'd like to think that my lifetime of caring for other living beings has bled between human and animal and I'm the ultimate mammal tamer. Truth is I'm just doing the best I can and I'm probably lucky to have the best kids and dog in the world. My cat is just a cat. There is nothing that you can do for a cat.
 
That's literally so retarded I don't know where to begin. Dogs are not like toddlers, dogs are not equal intelligence to toddlers, dogs are not human, dogs do not understand why you are spanking them, all they understand is that you're going to hit them. They don't have the mental capacity to understand. Also hitting toddlers is retarded too. Stop being a retard.
Agreed, my dog listens perfectly without me even having to yell at him. He either gets positive reinforcement from me or he'll get the cold shoulder which upsets him so much he'll actively try to avoid pissing me off.
 
I need more information but as a Pitbull owner of several decades best way to help this dog is socialise him.
Walks around other dogs on a short leash, harness & muzzle if you can handle it.
You mention the arm socket on a leash is that the equipment or you don't have a bit of stance on you?
Collars allow a dog to pull on a lead but in a harness (chest plate type) they can't actually go anywhere except standup a bit on their back legs. They do make those shock cord leads with a bit of give in them but I don't advise them for now in this learning stage. You just gotta be prepared for it don't just walk them all casual like it's a corgi or something. Failing all that get the waist leash. Or a piece of chain & rope.
Sounds like He's barking at things because he doesn't understand them not out of aggression. What's he's tail doing during all this? Wagging?Flagging? Down?
Kong toys are great for bully breeds especially the black ones.
12 months is practically still a puppy though plenty of time to break this buck.
And ffs at minimum get this cunt to stop hitting the fucking dog. You never hit dogs. Slap a rolled up magazine on the coffee table or shoe or some loud sudden sharp noise that'll snap them into line faster than hitting them will.
 
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Was your car in the neighbor's house?
No, we live across the street.
I need more information but as a Pitbull owner of several decades best way to help this dog is socialise him.
Walks around other dogs on a short leash, harness & muzzle if you can handle it.
You mention the arm socket on a leash is that the equipment or you don't have a bit of stance on you?
Collars allow a dog to pull on a lead but in a harness (chest plate type) they can't actually go anywhere except standup a bit on their back legs. They do make those shock cord leads with a bit of give in them but I don't advise them for now in this learning stage. You just gotta be prepared for it don't just walk them all casual like it's a corgi or something. Failing all that get the waist leash. Or a piece of chain & rope.
Sounds like He's barking at things because he doesn't understand them not out of aggression. What's he's tail doing during all this? Wagging?Flagging? Down?
Kong toys are great for bully breeds especially the black ones.
12 months is practically still a puppy though plenty of time to break this buck.
And ffs at minimum get this cunt to stop hitting the fucking dog. You never hit dogs. Slap a rolled up magazine on the coffee table or shoe or some loud sudden sharp noise that'll snap them into line faster than hitting them will.
Small female human versus an 80 lbs dog. Dog is very powerful and capable of pulling.

Dog has a harness, which I personally do not agree with as harnesses attach to the most powerful muscles in the animal's body. Would prefer a martingale lead like those used for show dogs, as this keeps the dogs head up and immediately gets their attention, but am not the owner.

Sibling spouse has purchased an electric collar which has been used on a few occassions. I think dog has lost trust in sibling spouse, who used to be his favorite person before using the shock collar or hitting. Dog screams very loudly when shock is used that you wouldn't even realize it was his voice. Sibling does not use shock collar when their spouse is not around.

When dog is around strangers, he tenses up, stares, tail up and unmoving. If there is a fence between him and thing of interest, he will run up to fence. Without fence, he stays still. Words are lost on him, even stern commands, when he gets like this. We either stand and wait or have to manhandle him back inside. If his muzzle is on, he will immediately try to take it off before other actions. When he was younger, I was able to give his leash a quick yank to get his attention back but it doesnt work anymore. If he does that tense stare and lunges towards the object of his interest, this is when he nearly dislocates arms. Sibling says to let go of the leash when this happens.

Will try to record what he does.

Dog destroys Kong toys. Kong Extreme and firehose toys are nothing to him. Himalayan cheese sticks too expensive. We use blueberries as treats.

Last night, after reading these comments, we bought him a massive tennis ball from Petco that is bigger than his mouth last night. He likes it. He does not return toys, so we have a standard tennis ball to distract him from the other toy. He gets tired really fast from this game of interchanging toys.

https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petco...s-ball-dog-toy-in-assorted-colors-475-2763001

I bought a dog seatbelt from Ebay the other day and realized Dog might chew through the fabric. We haven't tried it yet, though. Considering to buy this (link below) if he chews through the fabric seatbelt. Woven steel seatbelt with two-sided tether. The seatbelt is important as dog likes to lunge bark at pedestrians, poke his head in front next to driver, and does not sit still. Windows are never opened because he is not secured in vehicles. Sibling doesn't want to get a travel kennel for whatever reason. Dog has sat in car like this since he was a puppy.

https://www.amazon.com/Divoti-Seatbelt-Restraint-Vehicle-Attachment/dp/B07TDKX38Q

When we went to Petco, sibling had mentioned at the register that dog destroys everything within a few days. The cashier overheard and said "yeah, but them having fun is morenimportant". It's been on my mind ever since. Dog toys are typically $3+ in my area so they're pretty expensive for things that are quickly disposable to aggressive chewers.

A coworker of mine has an actual rednose Pitbull breed dog and her dog is extremely friendly and doesnt destroy toys. It makes me sad to see our bulldog the way he is.

Sorry tried to shorten post length. Here is an old video of pre-neutered dog and husky friend. They havent seen each other since.

 
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