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I didn't hate The Evil Dead remake, the raining blood was cool

I still stand by the fact I enjoyed Devils Rejects

High Tension (Switchblade Romance for the brits) was almost good, but that ending fucking ruined it for me because it ended up creating so many plot holes. It needed one more draft.
The last 15 minutes does a lot to redeem the Evil Dead remake. But it's still not as good as the original trilogy.

I am not a Rob Zombie fan but I don't hate the guy either. So I don't fall into either extreme probably because I never saw the Halloween franchise as a sacred cow. The only movie of his I really like is Lords of Salem. Everything else I either hated or enjoyed in a guilty pleasure kind of way, specifically his Halloween movies. I appreciate his Halloween movies as OTT sleazy/gory slashers that for every great moment or visual there is an equally stupid moment or line that counter balances it. I fucking hated 31 and couldn't finish it.

I didn't mind the ending to High Tension. It's funny looking back on it and the horror community thought the director was going to be the next big thing. Then came Piranha 3D (which is a guilty pleasure), Mirrors, and the Hills Have Eyes remake (which also has nothing on the original). His career just petered out.
 
Alexandre Aja did Crawl in 2019, didn't care for it myself but, seemed well-liked and it is his highest-grossing movie at $90million worldwide.

Also had a movie called Oxygen out on Netflix this year, reviews look good but yet to see it myself Also just under 30k rating on IMDb, which isn't bad, the rating is 6.5.
 
Crawl was fun.
Hills have Eyes remake wasnt bad, I enjoyed what I saw. Original is great.

Zombies first Halloween movie was a ton of fun, but by the sequel I was kinda tired of it all.
I'm not as big of a Lords of Salem person but I understand the appeal.
Won't bother with 31 since it looks kinda 'eh' and the fact Zombie had to cut 20 minutes to get an R rating.
Finally Three From Hell shouldn't have been made since DR ended on a great note.

I agree the evil dead remake is definitely not as good as any of the original trilogy.

Oh and I really liked that remake of Maniac Aja produced
 
The Devil's Rejects is the best exploitation movie in the last 30 years, it's not even a contest. Most of Rob Zombie's movies are absolute shit, that's the one exception and the only one why he's had a career since then. He struck gold once and he's coasting on it.

Agree with everything except for Mouth of Madness which I would rate as more "pretty good" especially in comparison to The Thing and Prince of Darkness. The Evil Dead remake was painfully a-typical and paint by numbers until we arrive at the last 15 minutes where it feels unique but still plays out like an Evil Dead movie.

Agreed on the ED remake, but Mouth of Madness is much better than Prince of Darkness. It's the weak link in the 'trilogy'.
 
Fixed that horrifically bad spelling error. You are welcome.

Edgelords of Salem was so fucking bad, I was so fucking pissed off after wasting my time with that piece of shit, I wanted to write to the company for a refund. And I had pirated that shit.

At the very least, I told myself, the next one was for sure gonna make up for how fucking terrible the first one was.

Then I started to watch this:

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Holy shit it was bad. He got way too up his own norwegian or whatever arse. At the very least Neon Demon made up for it, and while Too Old To Die Young or whatever wasn't perfect, I would have watched a second season.
 
the whole "Chainsaw and hockey mask." Cliché never ceases to amuse me. Considering the big man himself Jason Voorhees never used one in any of the films. Hell in part 2 Ginny the final girl attacks HIM with a chainsaw and that idea was later reused in part five. The only time the J man ever used a power tool of any kind? Friday the 13th part 7 a new blood. And it was a grass cutter with a saw blade fixed to the front to slice open The psychologist's stomach.
 
I'll amend that to say 3-4-5-6 are the best ones.
I like 2 best. I'd say 1-2-3-4-5-6 are best just to be on the safe side.

John Carpenter's "Apocalypse Trilogy" (The Thing, Prince of Darkness, and In the Mouth of Madness) are the best horror films of the modern age IMO.

I liked the Evil Dead remake and was more interested in a continuation of that than I was Ash vs the Evil Dead.

Lords of Salem was interestingly weird and I can actually enjoy Rob Zombie a bit once he gets out of the Hillbilly obsession.

Stanley Kubrick's The Shining is a far better movie than Stephen King's The Shining is a book.
Checks out to me. I loved the Evil Dead remake. All I can add is: this joke where you try to trick people into watching Rob Zombie movies has just got to stop. It's not funny, it's cruel.
 
I like 2 best. I'd say 1-2-3-4-5-6 are best just to be on the safe side.
Shit I love Jason Takes Manhattan, and New Blood is classic if only because Kane Hodder owned being Jason so hard. I thought the telepathic stuff was gay and what not, but I still liked the movie.

Really it's only 9 and 10 that suck, and it's not like I skip them when I do a rewatch. Or at the very least I don't skip 9 until they kill off Jason at the beginning, and then I pretend that's the end of the movie and move on to 10.

In a sense, I think 1-9-10 are the weak link in the series. The original Friday the 13th was just too much of a derivative rip-off of Halloween and other slashers at the time, I don't think the series started to be great until the second movie. I mean don't get me wrong plenty of stuff became classic in the first movie, but a lot of it I feel like it's only in retrospect that it did. If there hadn't been a bunch of sequels, I feel like F13 would just be one of those 70s-80s slashers that only gorehounds and people who watch a lot of horror would know about, and it wouldn't be nearly iconic as it is today.
 
The first Friday the 13th is fine. It's just a generic slasher saved by Tom Savini gore and out of left field -no setup whatsoever- performance by Betsy Palmer. The reveal of Mrs. Voorhees in the original is the ultimate copout. Here's a character that was never introduced, never hinted at, never seen until the last 15 minutes. It's amazing just how much Palmer brought to that character.



"Kill her mommy! Kill her!" That's psychotic and great. When the actress did conventions for the last couple of years of her life she was dumbfounded that woman would approach her and have her take photos with their babies. She asked them what they saw in her character and they said that they understood a mother's rage over losing their child. Everyone harps about Kane Hodder being snubbed for Freddy VS Jason but I always felt that not having Betsy reprise her role was the bigger snub.

I like part 9 despite how much of an insane shit show that it was behind the scenes. And no, I am not a contrarian. Blame it on nostalgia because it may have been the first one I was exposed to (and the 2nd one I was exposed to, oddly enough, was part 5 not long afterwards). But I will defend it to an extent. It has great gore, the design of Jason (what little there is) was great, the characters were fun, the nonsensical plot was amusing and it at least tried something different. And come on, it has Kane Hodder doing a cameo and he's killed by Jason so it can't be that bad. For the most part, I think the plot works but what sinks it is the non-explanation of various plot points such as: why is Jason a demon, how and why can he body hop, what is up with the Voorhees knife, how did Pamela have a daughter, what is Creighton Duke's backstory? Etcetera and etcetera. And most of those plot holes can be explained away by the fact that the movie was hastily reshot by the studio because of the radically different direction the movie was heading in.

Part 9 was supposed to star Jason's incest brother (yes, really) who would have fished out his body from Camp Crystal Lake, perform a ritual, eat his heart, assumes Jason's powers and then it would proceed onwards. All of the scenes with Jason in the hockey mask, the coroner, Creighton Duke, and the scene with the campers were all part of the reshoots. Now there's a docu in the works for Part 9: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7686010/

The director and Sean Cunningham have been pointing fingers at each other over the years accusing the other of fucking up the movie. The whole thing is fascinating but I'm curious if this docu will shed some light on what happened. Probably not because the director is producing it. But he alleged that Cunningham demanded that there was no hockey mask.

Part 10 is dog shit.
 
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eh i have to disagree with @BrunoMattei about part 10 being dog shit. Don't get me wrong it's BADDDD like trying way too hard bad, but really the fact that it went all in with having jason unfrozen in the future and taken to space? It's almost so bad you can't help but laugh at it. Not to mention Kane hodder really gave it his all in his final appearance as jason until he was a mocap model for the video game.

fun personal fact: i still have a vague memory of my parents and some friends they'd known since high school going out one night to see the movie on opening night and they practically could hardly believe it. they had seen the original films as teenagers and seeing part 10 as adults? They stopped caring about horror at that point.
 
More casual people seem to like part 10 so evidently the filmmakers did something right. But it is dog shit. First I will list the positives:

David Cronenberg cameo, the face smash kill, the sleeping bag kill homage/parody. That's about it.

Everything else is awful. Unfunny comedy, unlikable characters, non-existent gore aside from the face smash and drill murders. There is a reason why the Sci Fi channel likes to play this entry because they don't have to cut very much from it. The design of Jason is garbage up until his Uber form which was... Okay. It could have been more creative but I guess he would have ended up looking more like Shredder from Ninja Turtles? Or a T-800. The T&A even is extremely light in comparison to other entries.

There's better comedies in the franchise like part 6. Even part 8 is funnier.

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This one gag is funnier than anything in Jason X. Fuck Jason X, fuck Uber Jason, fuck your ironic/hipster bullshit, fuck you "Oh, I laughed when the girl said 'this sucks on so many levels!' der her!" Fuck you.
 
unpopular opinion time (again) but i just don't find the exorcist all that scary....HEAR Me out. I mean no disrespect to William Friedkien, max von siedow, Linda Blair, or William Peter Blatty. They all put their all into the movie and the film is still a well made masterpiece and a landmark of cinema. Up there with the hits of the 70s' like the godfather, apocalypse now, star wars, jaws, superman, rocky and so on.

When I saw it for the first time thought i wasn't seeing the same thing people saw back in 73. I've read about people fainted, vomited, suffered minor anxiety attacks while seeing the film back in the day and i was sitting there able to watch the whole thing just fine. It's still a well made, well acted movie with great effects and atmosphere, but scary?


Eh maybe its just me, I've seen so many horror movies for so many years they almost never frighten me, I enjoy them for the effects, the monsters, and the cinematography more than the scares.
 
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