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Huh everyone suddenly voicing an opinion on fear street and it doesn't look good,? I haven't seen it personally yet but form the reviews I've seen it seemed ok... I wanna check it out out of morbid curiosity but you guys are making it sound like total dogshit.




Oh well on a lighter note @BrunoMattei mentioned the remake of noseratu by Ingemar birgman earlier but I have to ask have you see shadow of the vampire? That meta movie that portrayed max shrecks as an actual vampire on the set of noseratu in 1922?

Also JFC I can't for the life of me find a copy of this movie for sale at a reasonable price! Not on digital, not on dve not on Blu ray nothing! Wtf?! This ain't some obscure one off indie film it was a mainstream release by the original studio that gave the world the vampire movie universal studios!
 
horrorfan89 said:
Oh well on a lighter note @BrunoMattei mentioned the remake of noseratu by Ingemar birgman earlier but I have to ask have you see shadow of the vampire? That meta movie that portrayed max shrecks as an actual vampire on the set of noseratu in 1922?https://youtube.com/watch?v=_B15iesNMa8
Also JFC I can't for the life of me find a copy of this movie for sale at a reasonable price! Not on digital, not on dve not on Blu ray nothing! Wtf?! This ain't some obscure one off indie film it was a mainstream release by the original studio that gave the world the vampire movie universal studios!
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It's a great dark comedy. Mad respect for Nicolas Cage for hiring E. Elias Merhige to direct because he loved Begotten.

 
BrunoMattei said:
It's a great dark comedy. Mad respect for Nicolas Cage for hiring E. Elias Merhige to direct because he loved Begotten.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4tU39EP7k2k
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Early horror truly has that unsettling feel to it best portrayed on German expressionist Cinema from nosferatu to the cabinet of Dr caligari. The very foundation that the masked maniacs and killer zombies of later years would be better known for .
 
Well Jeremy Jahn's review has killed any desire I had to watch Candyman


I miss the days when you could have women or blacks in leads and they didn't use it as a way to hit you over the head for hours about current year bullshit issues and cared more about making a good fucking movie instead.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
Well Jeremy Jahn's review has killed any desire I had to watch Candyman

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Lfx-eotCOM
I miss the days when you could have women or blacks in leads and they didn't use it as a way to hit you over the head for hours about current year bullshit issues and cared more about making a good fucking movie instead.
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How many "WHITE PEEPOO BAD" horror movies are there again? I lost count.
 
Oh for fuck's sake. Fuck you Fear Street 3. OF FUCKING COURSE it couldn't be that the witch was evil and it would be about defeating her or whatever. Nope. The big plot twist is that ACAB RICH CIS WHITE MEN WERE BEHIND IT ALL LONG SMASH THE PATRIARCHY WE ANTIFA NOW and they framed the poor LGBTQ+ POCs and they all need to team up defeat the white menace.

I'm so fucking sick of that shit. Don't waste your time with any of that shit. The occasional good gore is not worth it. If you don't believe me, check out what I spoilered (even if you decide to watch it it won't spoil most of the story or who did what) and tell me you're not fucking groaning at it.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
Well Jeremy Jahn's review has killed any desire I had to watch Candyman

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Lfx-eotCOM
I miss the days when you could have women or blacks in leads and they didn't use it as a way to hit you over the head for hours about current year bullshit issues and cared more about making a good fucking movie instead.
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I had it pegged from the trailer, the review blurbs they included was very fixated on how "important" a film it is. The original story was set in England and presumably all the characters were white (well, British, anyway). Clive Barker is of course extremely gay and this comes across in his writing, intentionally or not, but not in a particularly woke way. Without checking I would guess that his politics are progressive, but in the back of his subconscious, it's all rape demons pissing on rent boys and stuff. Not very positive representation of gay themes, unless you count HIV-positive.
 
No Tony Todd. That killed some of the desire I had to see Candyman.

Then I also saw Jordan Peele was involved and that 100% killed any desire I had to see this movie.

Pretty much turned out exactly how I thought it would with Peele involved.
 
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Can Peele write anything that doesn't have to do with racism?
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No. He is a horror movie grifter who beats everyone in the audience over the head with his social commentary while jerking himself off with how great and innovative he is. Even though his shit is so ham-fisted it completely ruins the movie and or series.

This YouTube comment from that Jeremy Jahns review sums it up.

Social commentary can be done well if you "Show, don't tell." The problem is these people who try to infuse social commentary in their movies think the Audience isn't smart enough to pick up on the message so they'll just try to bash you over the head with the message to the detriment of the movie.
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Oh for fuck's sake. Fuck you Fear Street 3. OF FUCKING COURSE it couldn't be that the witch was evil and it would be about defeating her or whatever. Nope. The big plot twist is that ACAB RICH CIS WHITE MEN WERE BEHIND IT ALL LONG SMASH THE PATRIARCHY WE ANTIFA NOW and they framed the poor LGBTQ+ POCs and they all need to team up defeat the white menace.

I'm so fucking sick of that shit. Don't waste your time with any of that shit. The occasional good gore is not worth it. If you don't believe me, check out what I spoilered (even if you decide to watch it it won't spoil most of the story or who did what) and tell me you're not fucking groaning at it.
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You know what gets me about Fear Street movies, they go on and on about how shit the town they live in, yet they never show it. It just comes across as a normal town just with a murder/murders every few years but not outside the normal rate of murders you would expect from a town that size. If it can't get that right, no wonder the "twist" didn't work.

Something like IT did it far better, showing you and giving you a sense of what's wrong with the town. Hell stuff like Nightmare on Elm Street movies and countless others have been able to do that.

Fear Street 3 did make me laugh with the shitty VVitch rip off part, where none of the actors could do the accents, yet they kept trying.
 
Oats12345 said:
Can Peele write anything that doesn't have to do with racism?
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Us has to be the most schitzoid, incoherent piece of shit I ever saw in quite a long time. If you wrote this same script and handed it in, the senior English teacher would toss it in the circular file and give you a zero for the assignment. It is that fucking nonsensical.
 
Jordan Peele is a pretentious untalented hack and I would not have sex with him.

Besides, even in comedy, Jordan Peele needed Kegan Michael-Key to carry him and Key was the funnier of the two.
 
I liked Get Out but have never been inspired to watch Us.
Calandrino said:
I had it pegged from the trailer, the review blurbs they included was very fixated on how "important" a film it is. The original story was set in England and presumably all the characters were white (well, British, anyway). Clive Barker is of course extremely gay and this comes across in his writing, intentionally or not, but not in a particularly woke way. Without checking I would guess that his politics are progressive, but in the back of his subconscious, it's all rape demons pissing on rent boys and stuff. Not very positive representation of gay themes, unless you count HIV-positive.
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The gay shit in his work varies from just out and out gay sex like in the first Book of Blood in easily his best short story In The Hills The Cities (seriously, this is probably his best piece of writing and highly recommended if you enjoy Lovecraft apocalyptic fiction). Then there's sex scenes that focus on the dick a little too much.

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I liked Get Out , overrated sure but still enjoyed it. But Us was awful

In most horror movies not explaining everything is a good idea. We didn't need to know why Freddy can do what he does, nor why Jason came back from the dead, in fact, the two movies that did that are some of the worst in the series. In the Thing, you don't need to know why Alien is on earth or the overall goal of it if it even had one. We don't need to know everything, not important to and in many cases some mysteries are best unsolved.

Us is one of those movies, where the less explained would have been better. But they felt the need to explain everything in that movie, and the reason given for everything are just awful and makes no logical sense even within its own world. Hell, they even need to explain the twist at the end, which shocked me because it was so obvious what happened, that they didn't need to even show it happening.
 
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Fear Street 3 did make me laugh with the shitty VVitch rip off part, where none of the actors could do the accents, yet they kept trying.
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It was fucking jarring, there was like, one of them that tried really hard and much harder than the others (the "real" vvitch) but she's in for like 2 seconds at the end and when she speaks its a 'wtf is she doing an accent for literally everyone else was just going THEE and THOU and that was about it

Syaoran Li said:
Jordan Peele is a pretentious untalented hack and I would not have sex with him.

Besides, even in comedy, Jordan Peele needed Kegan Michael-Key to carry him and Key was the funnier of the two.
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Jordan Peele is the worst kind of stoner, the kind that started really late in life and thinks that his ideas are brilliant when he's high. You can tell that this is exactly what all of solo ideas are from

'Oh man, what if white peepo wanted to be black so much, they stole our bodies'
'Oh man, what if there was peeple that lived under the earth and shit and they are like us, but underground'
'Oh man, what if I called my next movie NOPE lmao'

Kegels was clearly the creative brain behind most of K&P
 
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I was a little kid when the first Scream came out and I remember in the 90's, those masks were everywhere around Halloween. They still kinda are, but I didn't realize until years later that the Ghostface mask predated the movie by several years.

It was actually a little bit surprising when I found this out.
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A year or two before 'Scream' came out my friend wore the ghostface costume for trick or treating (I forget the original name of it) When we first saw the trailer for 'Scream' we were like the 2 soyjaks pointing meme.
 
Ok so I watched indie movie Found (2012), which for most of its run is basically Stand By Me if the one kid found out his brother is a serial killer and doesn't know how to deal with this shit.

It didn't really feel like a horror movie for most of its run, but the child actor and his brother are really good together, so I didn't mind. I was confused as fuck as to why this was called horror though. Then the ending came. Made it all worth it.

3.5/5 not the greatest but worth of watch
 
Funny how hindsight can change popular opinions. I still remember how for years people were calling the 2006 remake of black Christmas one of the worst remakes of all time and the pinnacle of bad 2000's horror then suddenly a decade later an even crappier remake comes along that embodies everything wrong with an even worse decade and suddenly everyone's apologizing to the 06 version left and right.


Say what you want about black Christmas 2006, but ive watched a few videos on it by guys like good bad flicks and...yeah if you go into the making of stories surrounding these movies they at least have interesting stories behind the camera often related to why they were made at all.
 
I'm curious, what are some polarizing as fuck horror movies that you either loved or hated
 
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