/horror/ general megathread - Let's talk about movies and shit.

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

Maybe this belongs in some unpopular opinion thread, but I'm of the opinion that May (the Lucky McKee, Angela Bettis horror comedy) deserves a sequel: Call it Amy, after the fucked-up Frankenstein's corpse thing she makes at the end of the film:

Amy Stubbs – Synopsis: Decades after making a friend who would never leave her, May Canady starts noticing a strange smell...

I've attached the Word Document I wrote the synopsis in.

 

[Lone Star]

V/H/S/

Every clip of these movies I've seen seems like the most tryhard shit imaginable.

 

[TV's Adam West]

I know it's weeks old but going back at topic, I looked at a comment on a Milo and Otis video that says this

I wonder what Kevin Bacon and Harry Crosby or even Tom Savini say about that scene with the snake. How does William Shatner feel about the tarantulas dying for real?

I'm gonna defend cannibal Holocaust, at least the actual cannibal tribes ate the animals they killed.

 

[AnOminous]

Not a movie, but anyone remember the rail shooter CarnEvil? I'm not a big fan of that genre in general, although two of my favorite arcade games (CarnEvil and Beast Busters) were both in that genre and had zombies.

This was a ridiculously fucked-up, gory game and one of the goriest things imaginable. I was obsessed with this in 1998 or so and got to the point I could usually win it with just two buyins (I only won it in one a couple times).

It was nearly the perfect example of its sort of game, minus one slight gripe. The "first" boss (you could actually play three of the four parts in any order you liked without any change in play) was absolutely brutal and usually cost me my first quarter.

Anyway, this is that bitch.

And a whole level.

This has the most notorious boss, Junior, a titanic baby who vomits on you while you blow him to gibs. This one was so controversial they actually had a hardware switch so you could switch the boss to a lame-ass giant teddy bear instead.

Imo this is the best gore-themed arcade vidya ever.

 

[Luke Heaven 13!]

I mean look at Nigra Dacosta's (literal) entire filmography. Nigger wokeslop award bait bomb (about muh bortions), nigger wokeslop bomb re-make of Candyman, and nigger wokeslop The Marvels.

The whole 28 Years Later sequel was meant as a vehicle to save Alex Garland’s career. Before that he had massive flop after flop.

Side rant: That Devs show was terrible and showcases Garland’s huge weakness as a writer.

So Boyle and everyone finally say yes to help Garland, but they needed someone with juice to help and Cillian Murphy finally jumps onboard as a producer and not as an actor (cause he’s smart and if the film flops he isn’t going to be tainted. This is also to save the career of Peter Rice, who was fired from Disney and was already producer of 2 major flops.

Point being, the current sequels to 28 Days Later are a vehicle to save the careers of Garland and Rice. It somewhat worked as 28 Years Later didn’t bomb. Now they are bringing in Dacosta (a favor called in) after her career flops seeing if she can rehabilitate her career before fading into being a director for low grade films for streaming.

It’s too bad network TV is dead. DaCosta, Rice, and Garland could have better careers being part of the CSI franchise.

I watched “I Saw The TV Glow” recently (I know), without looking into its director or cast beforehand - it was truly miserable as a movie but did inspire a nauseous dread in me so I guess it works as a horror movie in that regard. It manages a decent shot composition and cinematography of the writhing and howling inner monologue of a tortured, embittered transexual man. I don’t think I know of anyone I could recommend it to, maybe my queer, wiccan stepsister - it felt less like a movie and more like a rape based energy weapon beamed from an HBO Max satellite.

It’s the trans trojan horse in film. They use aesthetics and decent cinematography to hide the true meaning of the film. The troon is angry because they can’t live in fantasy land. Which is a tell as big as a rookie poker player. The trans prefer to live in their fantasy delusions than real life.

Why are all movies about the same few things nowadays? What's the point of all these metaphors and "deep writing" if we're all just going to talk about the same topics over and over and over again?

My theory stems from earlier in my post, too many Garland knock off writers. Too many sheltered young adult libs who shriek if you deny them their theme. Also not enough actual craftsmen in film who know how to help in all technical aspects of a film.

 

[The Nothingness]

Kelly Hu's death in Friday the 13th Pt. 8 has to be the tamest kill in the series (unless there is another one that can top it).

And on that subject, what other tame kills can you think of from slasher movies?

 

[Quijibo69]

Every clip of these movies I've seen seems like the most tryhard shit imaginable.

I saw the Halloween one this weekend for shits and giggles to see how bad it was. Most of stories in there should have ended 5 or 10 mins ago and would have been better for it. Just like bad Family Guy jokes. The candy one/Fun Sized should have ended when the guy went into the candy bowl. Did not disappoint in the garbage department.

 

[Calandrino]

Not a movie, but anyone remember the rail shooter CarnEvil? I'm not a big fan of that genre in general, although two of my favorite arcade games (CarnEvil and Beast Busters) were both in that genre and had zombies.

CarnEvil's supposed to be especially tough nice nice job handling that. There are a lot of horror shooter games like that and I wish it was easier to play them nowadays. I think Zombie Attack looks neat but I ain't playin it with a mouse:

Chiller's an early example, subject to much controversy... even in 1986 the moral guardians were touchy about games where you shoot naked women until their body parts explode, go figure

But on the subject of film,

Moonstalker (1989) aka Camper Stamper

Those are both great titles. I should note that the Campers who get Stamped are actually out camping (in frosty Nevada), not counselors at a summer camp. 4:3, so direct-to-VHS I assume, and made outside of Hollywood, giving it some extra charm.



The killer actually spends most of the movie wearing mirrored cop shades, even though it's night time. I think he should've stuck with the pillow case gimp suit.

 

[frozen_runner]

I just got back from Good Boy (2025).

You already know if you're interested in this haunted house film. It asks a few things of the audience:

1. you have to accept a non-human (dog) lead character
2. you have to be capable of caring about that non-human lead character
3. you have to be willing to make connections without full explanations
4. you have to be cool with what is clearly an indie movie... it looks great, but the budget was not huge.

If you can do all of that, and if you're not expecting a balls-to-the-wall gorefest (it's PG-13)... it's worth watching. Not the best movie I've seen this year or anything, but it's totally unique a far as I know, and, with a few exceptions (one or two slightly confusing sequences), I would would say it's successful.

I would recommend not reading literally anything about it before watching. It has a relatively simple plot (it would have to with a realistically-depicted dog as the main character), and it would be very easy to spoil it.

And stay in your seat through the credits. There's a very short "behind the scenes" thing after the movie that's pretty cool.

It's shot really good and the acting's good and all that but it feels kind of distasteful in parts.
Like they use one of his real victims to recreate the hammer scene from Texas Chainsaw, and I'm sure that's some kind of brilliant meta commentary on film or something but it makes me kind of uncomfortable knowing this guy murdered real people and they're using the death of this woman for a cheap obvious horror reference.

This reminds me of how distasteful I found a 1- or 2-second scene in Dexter: Resurrection. I don't mind a violent show all about a serial killer, but I don't want to see depictions of real serial killers as if they're part of the entertainment. The brief cutaway to John Wayne Gacey running around dressed as Pogo the Clown was totally uncalled for.

Well if we really want to do this, here it is in higher res:

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I was saying "early 80" because I only noticed one button on each side, but looks like there's two. Lots of late 80s games still had that kind of button layout. The woodgrain is kinda early 80s, but I'm leaning towards something later now.

Blowing up the art at the top of the cab, I see a man on the right, maybe two people standing next to each other.

That art is definitely Ms. Pacman. Look at the colors.

Everything else is different.

 

[Karamanlis]

This is a classic film, so I don't have to sell it to anyone and probably won't have original thoughts about it.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the 1942 film? That one is definitely considered a classic, but I don't think the Schrader version is generally held in high regard. Not that it's a piece of shit or anything like that, but the general consensus seems to be that it's just okay. Glad you enjoyed it so much though. Schrader has been involved in some cool films.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

I'm watching that new Monster: Ed Gein series on Netflix.

It's shot really good and the acting's good and all that but it feels kind of distasteful in parts.
Like they use one of his real victims to recreate the hammer scene from Texas Chainsaw, and I'm sure that's some kind of brilliant meta commentary on film or something but it makes me kind of uncomfortable knowing this guy murdered real people and they're using the death of this woman for a cheap obvious horror reference.

I know way more distasteful things have been done in horror but something about it rubs me the wrong way, I don't know. Granted Ed Gein got most of his ideas for graverobbing and murder from pulp comics, but do you literally have to use this real life murderer to make the 30 year olds in your audience go "ooooh i understand that reference!"

I'm on episode 2 and I'm glad to know I'm not alone in finding it distasteful. Does Ryan Murphy really believe he's making some awe-inspiring statement about society and its ills or is he just really into making torture porn?

I'm not really into it. If this were a story inspired by Gein like Psycho or Texas Chainsaw I think I'd like it more, but that these were real people whose lives are being treated so salaciously and almost made a mockery of, along with myths about Gein being presented as things that happened, really rubs me the wrong way.

That Hitchcock is laughably, outrageously bad. The only part of the show I'm truly enjoying is Aunt Jackie.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I'm on episode 2 and I'm glad to know I'm not alone in finding it distasteful. Does Ryan Murphy really believe he's making some awe-inspiring statement about society and its ills or is he just really into making torture porn?

I'm not really into it. If this were a story inspired by Gein like Psycho or Texas Chainsaw I think I'd like it more, but that these were real people whose lives are being treated so salaciously and almost made a mockery of, along with myths about Gein being presented as things that happened, really rubs me the wrong way.

That Hitchcock is laughably, outrageously bad. The only part of the show I'm truly enjoying is Aunt Jackie.

I think the problem is that it's too cartoonish in places. You can see the priorities immediately when they kill his mom off in the first episode. Maternal abuse isn't scary enough, fuck that boring character focused stuff make the freak start murdering already!

I think it is interesting that the pop culture-influenced Gein had himself probably the largest influence on pop culture that any serial killer has ever had, but the problem is that they're mixing that with real history. This guy wasn't a fictional character he murdered two women! The real life Ed Gein was a small, withdrawn, gibbering loner, but in this big hollywood story he is a gentle giant who has spastic autism attacks and is very blatantly a sex creep.

It's cliché and tasteless.
The comic "Did you Hear What Eddie Gein Done?" is a much better exploration of Gein and the phenomenon around him.

Not a movie, but anyone remember the rail shooter CarnEvil? I'm not a big fan of that genre in general, although two of my favorite arcade games (CarnEvil and Beast Busters) were both in that genre and had zombies.

This was a ridiculously fucked-up, gory game and one of the goriest things imaginable. I was obsessed with this in 1998 or so and got to the point I could usually win it with just two buyins (I only won it in one a couple times).

It was nearly the perfect example of its sort of game, minus one slight gripe. The "first" boss (you could actually play three of the four parts in any order you liked without any change in play) was absolutely brutal and usually cost me my first quarter.

Anyway, this is that bitch.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SxLU1KHQ6akAnd a whole level.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AHIXy9AJ3wYThis has the most notorious boss, Junior, a titanic baby who vomits on you while you blow him to gibs. This one was so controversial they actually had a hardware switch so you could switch the boss to a lame-ass giant teddy bear instead.

Imo this is the best gore-themed arcade vidya ever.

Carnevil is a halloween classic. I remember watching the opening attract video and being so scared.

In a special way, the dated 3D graphics and cheap junky music actually help to make it feel like a creepy relic from the past. Few stuff does that intentionally but Carnevil nails it.

 

[Product Placement]

The whole 28 Years Later sequel was meant as a vehicle to save Alex Garland’s career. Before that he had massive flop after flop.

Side rant: That Devs show was terrible and showcases Garland’s huge weakness as a writer.

So Boyle and everyone finally say yes to help Garland, but they needed someone with juice to help and Cillian Murphy finally jumps onboard as a producer and not as an actor (cause he’s smart and if the film flops he isn’t going to be tainted. This is also to save the career of Peter Rice, who was fired from Disney and was already producer of 2 major flops.

Point being, the current sequels to 28 Days Later are a vehicle to save the careers of Garland and Rice. It somewhat worked as 28 Years Later didn’t bomb. Now they are bringing in Dacosta (a favor called in) after her career flops seeing if she can rehabilitate her career before fading into being a director for low grade films for streaming.

It’s too bad network TV is dead. DaCosta, Rice, and Garland could have better careers being part of the CSI franchise.

That is just fanfic writing.

Civil War was a hit for A24 and Garland, grossing over $120 million at the box office on a $50 million budget, and is A24's second-highest-grossing movie. Also, before 28 Years Later came out, he was tied to an Elden Ring movie.

As for Nia DaCosta, her Candyman movie grossed $77 million on a $25 million budget, so it was also not a flop (The Marvels, however, is a huge old bomb). You are also missing the fact she wasn't part of the 28 Years Later pitch; she and other directors went against each other for the chance to make the second movie.

I don't disagree. 28 Years Later is a boost for Nia DaCosta after the Marvels flop and her next movie being an Amazon Prime movie, but 28 Years Later wasn't made for that reason.

As for Peter Rice, Warfare did flop in cinemas, grossing $33.6 million on a $20 million budget, but taking it way too far, calling it a major flop. And again, he also had projects lined up before 28 Years Later came out.

Hell Peter Rice was hired to produce the Olympic and Paralympic ceremonies for Los Angeles 2028. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...-casey-wasserman-la-2028-olympics-1236326650/

 

[frozen_runner]

Are you sure you're not thinking of the 1942 film? That one is definitely considered a classic, but I don't think the Schrader version is generally held in high regard. Not that it's a piece of shit or anything like that, but the general consensus seems to be that it's just okay. Glad you enjoyed it so much though. Schrader has been involved in some cool films.

I think it depends on who you talk to. Yeah, people seem to like the original more. (I need to see it.) But I've always heard the remake talked about positively. At least by horror fans.

 

[Quijibo69]

I just got back from Good Boy (2025).

You already know if you're interested in this haunted house film. It asks a few things of the audience:

1. you have to accept a non-human (dog) lead character
2. you have to be capable of caring about that non-human lead character
3. you have to be willing to make connections without full explanations
4. you have to be cool with what is clearly an indie movie... it looks great, but the budget was not huge.

If you can do all of that, and if you're not expecting a balls-to-the-wall gorefest (it's PG-13)... it's worth watching. Not the best movie I've seen this year or anything, but it's totally unique a far as I know, and, with a few exceptions (one or two slightly confusing sequences), I would would say it's successful.

I would recommend not reading literally anything about it before watching. It has a relatively simple plot (it would have to with a realistically-depicted dog as the main character), and it would be very easy to spoil it.

And stay in your seat through the credits. There's a very short "behind the scenes" thing after the movie that's pretty cool.

Ended up watching this last. It was ok for what is was, reminded me of the last story of the movie Cat's Eye. My theory on the story because it doesn't spell it out for you:

Spoiler: spoiler

The dog's owner dies of toxic mold poisoning and/or lung cancer. It's the dog interpretation of that.

 

[AnOminous]

I think it depends on who you talk to. Yeah, people seem to like the original more. (I need to see it.) But I've always heard the remake talked about positively. At least by horror fans.

Val Lewton is pretty neglected these days (other than the original Cat People). Probably because of his untimely death.

 

[FMW13]

Ended up watching this last. It was ok for what is was, reminded me of the last story of the movie Cat's Eye. My theory on the story because it doesn't spell it out for you:

Spoiler: spoiler

The dog's owner dies of toxic mold poisoning and/or lung cancer. It's the dog interpretation of that.

That's actually more sad than scary, A dog that is powerless in saving their owner from their illness is just heart breaking.

 

[frozen_runner]

Ended up watching this last. It was ok for what is was, reminded me of the last story of the movie Cat's Eye. My theory on the story because it doesn't spell it out for you:

Spoiler: spoiler

The dog's owner dies of toxic mold poisoning and/or lung cancer. It's the dog interpretation of that.

Well, something undeniably supernatural is happening in the story, because the dog dreams about specific information that isn't revealed until later, and all the information is correct.

But it's not exactly the house itself that's the problem, because the dog sees something at the beginning, in New York, manifesting in the corner. And the man, it is revealed, is terminally ill from the beginning, so the house didn't do that. (Maybe a family curse did?) And the dog can't understand that. He's just trying to protect his master.

And the specter is also trying to directly kill the dog, and the dog isn't sick.

I think it's left vague intentionally. The dark figure seems to be the specter of death. The question is if it's drawn to the man because of a curse or if everyone in his family who was already near death was drawn to the house to finally expire there and then be added to the collection of ghosts.

I also thought it was a good, if maybe not great, film. But it's undeniably well made in basically every way.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

Sat down and watched V/H/S Halloween last night. Thought it was better than most of the last few years' worth of episodes (though I did personally find Beyond to be the best of the bunch outside the first two). I'm not a fan as to how hard they went on the kid killing. Part of it is that I'm an oldfag with kids of my own, yes, but I really and truly do believe that killing a kid should be made a huge taboo than can ONLY be brought out to raise the stakes in a very careful way. It's the horror movie nuclear option. The Blob remake did it perfectly. Cage's Color Out of Space, Dr. Sleep, and that Klown movie did it smartly as well. But once you start throwing kids into a wood chipper left and right, I just don't think it works as anything but sheer meanness. It's like a dead baby joke: nobody's actually scared of it - they just think you're a sick fuck with bad taste.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

It's shot really good and the acting's good and all that but it feels kind of distasteful in parts.

That's Ryan Murphy's specialty. He aims for maximum shock and awe, treating it almost like kitsch.

Not a movie, but anyone remember the rail shooter CarnEvil? I'm not a big fan of that genre in general, although two of my favorite arcade games (CarnEvil and Beast Busters) were both in that genre and had zombies.

I loved that game, but it was so frustrating to play. Typical of Midway Games, trying to get all the money they could out of you. There was an arcade at the mall that would open late at night and for $10 bucks you'd enjoy free play arcade games, DDR or stuff like Skee-Ball, foosball or tabletop air hockey. It was to keep kids off the street, I guess or give geeky gamers something fun to do late at night. That was the only way I could beat the damn game. Good times.

Does Ryan Murphy really believe he's making some awe-inspiring statement about society and its ills or is he just really into making torture porn?

He's really into salacious shock scenes that he thinks are profound. It happened with the weird storylines in Nip/Tuck and even the first scene in American Horror Story where the retarded girl warns the redhead twins that go into the abandoned house that they'll die. They storm in, smashing everything in sight as a misplaced pop song from the '50s plays in the background. He believes he has something profound to express, but he's no enfant terrible... just a dilettante.