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Over my protests and very much against my better judgement, I was coerced into seeing M3gan 2.0. I did not particularly care for M3gan 1.0, and the trailers, which indicated that this would be a sci-fi comedy with M3gan as the hero, looked pretty danged bad to me.

Well, it genuinely surprised me. Despite my cynicism and rock-bottom expectations for the film, I have to admit that I was absolutely blown away by how fucking retarded it was. I thought there would be a little 5-minute scene at the beginning to explain "as you know, we re-programmed M3gan to not be evil" and then it would go on to be the TikTok MCU version of Terminator 2, but it's so much more unnecessarily complicated and stupid than that. The story makes no sense and requires the characters to constantly drop exposition to explain the writer's crackhead ideas of what's supposed to be going on and how computers work in this dimension (they are magic, even by movie standards). It also ends on a pro-AI note somehow.
Is it as faggot-pandering as trailers made it out to be? M3gan now seems very "brat"
 
I very much dislike whenever zombies - or infected here - interact with guns, because you always have to make the people using the guns incompetent retards. Bullets have to vanish into the ether, or theoretically human infected with human needs can somehow walk off half a magazine of 5.56 to the chest and keep coming.
Arrow interactions are worse, because slowly drawing a bow as packs of speeding hostiles run around constantly should be untenable, on top of how Legolas-tier accuracy is needed to land lethal hits on all those fast targets. Even if britistanis don't have loicenses, there is a low chance no one scavenged guns off of dead cops and soldiers. If they must insist on quiet weaponry they should stick with melee.
 
I saw 28 Years Later, and it was alright. It wasn't utterly horrendous, and there were parts that were at least fun. But honestly my expectations were quite low because of how 28 Weeks Later was, which at least this movie is only marginally better than since I didn't want to strangle every single main character like with Weeks. I do find it funny how the world pretty much quarantined Britain to be a forever shithole, that is very funny to me.

I at least hope the shit with the Jimmy cult at least is fun in the next one especially since the guy who plays the leader knows how to ham it up.

Honestly my main complaint is that the film felt too much like a dad game and the main kid character wasn't that interesting of a protagonist.
 
So I got around and watched "The Shrouds".. I heard about it and it seemed cool and you know when you read "David Cronenberg" you have a certain expectation, your mind wanders to cool body horror and stuff like The Fly, Existenz, Videodrome etc, so yeah I was a bit excited,

Without getting into spoilers I can say it's not a horror movie, at all. A thriller at best with the most horror thing being 3D renders of buried, decomposing corpses. While I don't mind a good thriller, this went nowhere, a solid start with a interesting premise about grief that ended up getting buried under way too many plot threads that ended up going nowhere and just when you think the story is picking up, it ends.

I can't really recommend it, unless you like mysteries.

Oh and boobs, there was a lot of sex and bare titties for some reason.
 
Without getting into spoilers I can say it's not a horror movie, at all. A thriller at best with the most horror thing being 3D renders of buried, decomposing corpses. While I don't mind a good thriller, this went nowhere, a solid start with a interesting premise about grief that ended up getting buried under way too many plot threads that ended up going nowhere and just when you think the story is picking up, it ends.
So modern horror in a nutshell then? Is modern horror trying to take away the scary element so they can make Vibe pieces that broaden the market? It's not scary, it's a creepy vibe so less people get scared and turn it off?

Guns and zombies never work unless you ignore how loud guns are. If zombies are drawn to noise shooting brings every zombie within a few miles radius to your location. The more you shoot the more you draw until you're overwhelmed. Guns worked in old horror films because the zombies were slow. The new fast zombies make guns a suicide attempt. You use them only if you will die if you don't and you're probably dead because you used one. It buys you a few seconds before a bigger problem starts.
 
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Is it as faggot-pandering as trailers made it out to be? M3gan now seems very "brat"
I never figured out what "brat" was. I guess she's a brat bitch girlboss slay queen with attitude or something, dunno, don't speak zoomer. She has a lot of one-liners and always gets the last word in and never really does anything evil.

So modern horror in a nutshell then? Is modern horror trying to take away the scary element so they can make Vibe pieces that broaden the market? It's not scary, it's a creepy vibe so less people get scared and turn it off?
Shrouds is just Cronenberg doing a Cronenberg, like it or not it doesn't fit with modern trends at all. I think they marketed as a horror movie just because they didn't know what else to do with it. It's people having weird conversations plus fan service for the worst fetishes ever.
 
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The woke parts of 28 days later would definitely be the black girlboss, cliche evil white men, and the allusions to slavery in Britain which doesn't really make sense considering it's not America. These woke tropes don't destroy the movie, and infact are kind of ignored by the end, but I definitely did notice them while I was watching it. It happens for a lot of old movies I rewatch now. I notice elements I didn't before.
It's. It evil white men, it's that every British person is evil.
 
I do find it funny how the world pretty much quarantined Britain to be a forever shithole, that is very funny to me.
It bothers me this was not touched on more. A prominent culture collapsing so abruptly in an unprecedented event would have huge global ramifications. The NATO team plot already hints at major reactions, so this would not be outside the story's scope. Where would fleeing Brits settle? How much stigma would they face? What effect does it have on the world economy? That they hand-waved zombies in Paris away with one line of text is pathetically lazy writing to avoid any world-building effort.
 
Cillian Murphy and Brendan Gleeson speak in their Cork and Dublin accents in 28 Days, which pretty much implies that Jim and Frank are immigrants rather than British.
...From Ireland. That's really not an Immigrant. I think people are trying too hard to make 28 Days seem woke, when it's literally a story about rage, civilisation and being on both the barbarian and the civilised side. It's not going for some racial or gender politics.
 
...From Ireland. That's really not an Immigrant. I think people are trying too hard to make 28 Days seem woke, when it's literally a story about rage, civilisation and being on both the barbarian and the civilised side. It's not going for some racial or gender politics.
We can't read the casting crew's mind to know why these people were cast but it would line up with woke politics we see coming down the pipe. I haven't seen the film in a while but it's a black woman / white man (couple?) being attacked by white men rapists. The female lead being black is questionable. The soldiers being evil rapists is questionable.

There isn't a cut off point where something goes from non-woke to woke because of it's content. When Doctor who returned no one thought it was 'woke' even with the mixed race relationships and overly gay presentation. As the series went on you could see those woke elements growing out of the foundation of the 9th doctor series. 28 days may not have been 'woke' but you could see it as proto woke. The first steps into the modern progressive movie.
 
We can't read the casting crew's mind to know why these people were cast but it would line up with woke politics we see coming down the pipe.
Murphy and Gleeson are both genuinely talented and do great jobs in their roles, so it could simply be that they were the best available actors for those characters. It could also be that Boyle has an affinity for Irishness due to his family background and selected them for that reason.

As for the new movie. I think it would have worked better if the set up was a situation more like how the Black Death worked in real life. Where after the initial devastation the virus kept returning in waves, less deadly than the first time, but still massively destructive. We know from the first two movies that the infected have a very short lifespan as they will starve before too long but the months of infection are still utterly catastrophic. It's impossible for any society to just pick up and get back to normal following an infection, they will have to make all sorts of adaptations.

And like the Black Death, the rage virus returns in waves, through mutations or infections in the animal population, or asymptomatic carriers as established in Weeks. (Or if Boyle wanted to actually make subversive political commentary - a gain of function lab leak.) Then you have a potentially great set-up for a movie. A society that isn't technologically or industrially back on its feet, with the ever present threat of another wave of infection. Set the movie in an area where there hasn't been a reinfection wave in 20 years and you can have a mix of people who have their guard down, with those who are unable to forget. With a strong compunction on people to have multiple children, so you have a very vulnerable community. And then have a wave hit that area.
 
The soldiers being evil rapists is questionable.
Having worked around veterans and current military for my career, I can tell you that soldiers being rapists when they're left to their own devices checks out. I don't think it would happen in less than a month, but it would happen. This thread is specific to US Special Forces but you might find it interesting.

The female lead being black is questionable.
I don't think simply having a black lead is questionable. If memory serves every single other character in the film is white.

Is she supposed to be an android? I see little tubes or something hanging off where her midsection would be.
Yes she's an android
 
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