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tbh I don't even mind if there's the more corporate sites that will go full McGriddles, but then they get the really polished interviews or other cool stuff
then the site that reviews with at least three f-bombs per sentence about the controls being fucking worse than literally trying to fucking make it move with grabbing a piece of actual fucking shit does more of the dirtsheet rumor stuff and talks how Boogernater 4 actually bankrupted the studio or whatever
there's a good ecosystem to be had, especially without automated monetization youtube making it all crap
then the site that reviews with at least three f-bombs per sentence about the controls being fucking worse than literally trying to fucking make it move with grabbing a piece of actual fucking shit does more of the dirtsheet rumor stuff and talks how Boogernater 4 actually bankrupted the studio or whatever
there's a good ecosystem to be had, especially without automated monetization youtube making it all crap
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Steven Soderbergh's latest movie Presence is a horror movie, sort of*. Yeah mostly it's about a nuclear family of alcoholics having arguments, but there is also a spooky ghost, the gimmick being that we see the whole movie from the ghost's perspective. And imo it had some pretty uncomfortable moments, ymmv ofc. I thought it was pretty good, and I liked that it was under 90 minutes long. It's a monumental occasion whenever I see a new movie that's under two hours.
*EDIT: I should add that the trailers were all for lame-looking Blumhouse/Platinum stuff like The Monkey and Heart Eyes (a slasher "from the producers of Scream!"), which I found incongruous, but I guess we're marketing this as "horror"
*EDIT: I should add that the trailers were all for lame-looking Blumhouse/Platinum stuff like The Monkey and Heart Eyes (a slasher "from the producers of Scream!"), which I found incongruous, but I guess we're marketing this as "horror"
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The last ten minutes of The Substance changed the tone completely, and I love that they probably needed a firetruck full of blood for it.
ETA- I think a better ending would have been to have Sue just keep Elizabeth hostage once they were both awake. It would have been a permanent solution to her problem. It would have also fit in a bit better with the psychological horror feel that the rest of the movie seemed to be going for. Instead, nope, just full body horror. Maybe the writers just lost the plot (literally and figuratively) at the end?
ETA- I think a better ending would have been to have Sue just keep Elizabeth hostage once they were both awake. It would have been a permanent solution to her problem. It would have also fit in a bit better with the psychological horror feel that the rest of the movie seemed to be going for. Instead, nope, just full body horror. Maybe the writers just lost the plot (literally and figuratively) at the end?
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I don't think it's truly Oscar-worthy (If I had to submit a horror flick for the Oscars for 2024 I would go with The First Omen) but it would be wild if it won for best picture. I think Demi Moore will win for best actress as just a gimme Oscar.
Also, this dude is making a series called Red Rainbow:
So far, this dude has made the best ai horror shorts.
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It's a rather short story, so there's a lot of room for making it his own creation. This version seems intentionally campy and over the top. I almost thought it was a Ryan Murphy production. If you want to see Osgood Perkins in a horror movie, check out Quigley:
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Saw 28 Days and 28 Weeks later
28 Days later had better characters that actually gave tension when stuff happened to them, and the whole military plot was one of the few times where this sort of thing was actually interesting in a zombie story.
28 Weeks later was more fun with its set pieces and the action sequences. But holy shit I wanted those kids to die.
28 Days later had better characters that actually gave tension when stuff happened to them, and the whole military plot was one of the few times where this sort of thing was actually interesting in a zombie story.
28 Weeks later was more fun with its set pieces and the action sequences. But holy shit I wanted those kids to die.
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I just rewatched In The Mouth of Madness right after reading VALIS by Philip K. Dick, and, despite the clearly Lovecraftian trappings of ITMoM, the movie's cosmos, where "objective" reality is a matter of opinion and the world seems governed on a narrative level and governed by chaos on that narrative level, is much more the milieu of Dick than Lovecraft: to my understanding of the man, Lovecraft may have been pessimistic about mankind's ability to get knowledge of the cosmos, but otherwise still thought that the cosmos was structured and material, and - Aside from what I conjecture is Lovecraft's own wish fulfillment in his Dreamlands stories - the materialism shows in his works. ITMoM has none of that fundamental materialism, instead taking an idealist approach where mind dominates matter so thoroughly that existence may be naught but a dream or a collective delusion.
Of course, it still isn't quite an unwitting love letter to Dick: Dick was big on Logos, on God, on some transcendent divine force or intelligence that can bring structure to the chaos. ITMoM just has a pulp-fiction-author-turned-Antichrist and a host of demons, and who dreamed up who first is left to the viewer's imagination.
Of course, it still isn't quite an unwitting love letter to Dick: Dick was big on Logos, on God, on some transcendent divine force or intelligence that can bring structure to the chaos. ITMoM just has a pulp-fiction-author-turned-Antichrist and a host of demons, and who dreamed up who first is left to the viewer's imagination.
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The director of the Terrifier films (which I have said I am not a fan of) posted this statement to FB and Twitter, and I think it's kind of silly for the director of a series of films about a murderous clown to make, but it's gotten a lot of people angry, especially the "all art is political!" crowd and the "media literacy" babblers who've been focusing their inanities on horror for the past several years. Won't someone please think of the Terrifier community?!
Sillay as I think it is, people are saying this was statement was made due to the Terrifer art director making pro-LGBT statements, I think he instead was attempting to countersignal the exact kind of people melting down over this. How has nagging people for the past decade over how all art is political and how media illiterate they're being worked out? It's people like this who behave like psychos over politics in entertainment that have contributed, in their own small ways, to making entertainment worse.
Sillay as I think it is, people are saying this was statement was made due to the Terrifer art director making pro-LGBT statements, I think he instead was attempting to countersignal the exact kind of people melting down over this. How has nagging people for the past decade over how all art is political and how media illiterate they're being worked out? It's people like this who behave like psychos over politics in entertainment that have contributed, in their own small ways, to making entertainment worse.
I do not understand why people want any kind of political association with a gore flick with porno level production value
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Decades of analyzing slasher characters and its consequences have been a disaster for the horror genre.
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Filmmaker Paul Naschy complained that it was easier to make horror movies in Spain when the fascists were in charge. Probably many such cases.
I figure maybe Mr. Leone is sensing that this level and degree of bullshit is in its death throes.
Horror movies have always been inherently leftist but also have a deeply problematic history and need to change. It's confusing, but the main point is: you should always do what mobs of leftists tell you to do, and only say things that they approve of, and ostracize anybody who criticizes them at all.
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>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BE A FENCE SITTING NAZI APOLOGIST CENTRIST!!!!
Get a load of these golems. These people have brain worms. Even referring to them as "people" feels generous. They'll look at a 4-year-old's crayon drawing of his nuclear family with their pet dog next to their house and call it heteronormative capitalist fascism. Are you just having fun making music, drawing a piece of art, or making a movie? Well fuck you, no you're not, you're being a fascist because your fun isn't taking into account the suffering of POC, LGBTQWTF, the "differently abled," and white supremacist colonialism! These cretins are terminally miserable and want to force everyone else to be at least as miserable as they are. That's what they hate the most--other people having fun. Just have fun making things. They'll sit in their goon caves and absolutely seethe about it.
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Is Dark City a horror film? I wouldn't say it's primarily horror, but anything that's spooky and that I can produce some vaguely "whoah dude" take from I guess I just share in this thread now. I'm also going to discuss it as if everyone reading this has seen it already, it's a fun movie, go watch it if you haven't. I'll put everything in spoilers to spare those who haven't seen it, and also so anyone pissed by my sperging about horror-adjacent movies can skip easily.
So, about Dark City: God, rewatching it as an adult, this is a depressing film.
But first a similar film, The Matrix. The Matrix, arguably, has a weaker power fantasy insofar as Neo only becomes a demigod within a simulated world and is eating protein paste while being hunted by squid robots in real life, whereas Murdoch gets to become lord of his own IRL space station, and presumably gets to keep his psi-powers regardless of what planet he might land on. So, Dark City's protagonist is in the preferable scenario, right?
I'm not certain. Sure, Murdoch is in a materially more comfortable position, and he gives an ending monologue about how humans are more than just their memories and blah blah blah sentimentality, buuuut:
Murdoch's entire identity and motivation remains centered around the (partially imprinted) false memories he was given by the Strangers even after learning they are false, therefore
I have no reason to believe he wouldn't have become a serial killer if the imprint had been completed, therefore
Murdoch really is just a puppet, and the fact that he's dancing to the strings of his own fragmented false memories rather than dancing directly under the guidance of the Strangers doesn't make him any less of one.
Sure, Murdoch will probably be a better master than a bunch of alien vampires, but his very self is a fabrication. Again compare Murdoch to Neo, who felt something was wrong innately, knew something was up, saw through a far more robust fabrication, broke out, and, even if you count the shitty sequels, kept on fighting against his "programming" at every step of the way, even at the cost of his own life. Murdoch, once blue brain worms stop trying to assimilate him, just sinks into nostalgia. It's really kind of pathetic: to draw one final Matrix comparison, Murdoch is doing what Cypher would have done if he'd magically gotten the matrix's admin privileges, and the introspective wrenching in my gut is realizing that's probably what I'd do too.
But first a similar film, The Matrix. The Matrix, arguably, has a weaker power fantasy insofar as Neo only becomes a demigod within a simulated world and is eating protein paste while being hunted by squid robots in real life, whereas Murdoch gets to become lord of his own IRL space station, and presumably gets to keep his psi-powers regardless of what planet he might land on. So, Dark City's protagonist is in the preferable scenario, right?
I'm not certain. Sure, Murdoch is in a materially more comfortable position, and he gives an ending monologue about how humans are more than just their memories and blah blah blah sentimentality, buuuut:
Murdoch's entire identity and motivation remains centered around the (partially imprinted) false memories he was given by the Strangers even after learning they are false, therefore
I have no reason to believe he wouldn't have become a serial killer if the imprint had been completed, therefore
Murdoch really is just a puppet, and the fact that he's dancing to the strings of his own fragmented false memories rather than dancing directly under the guidance of the Strangers doesn't make him any less of one.
Sure, Murdoch will probably be a better master than a bunch of alien vampires, but his very self is a fabrication. Again compare Murdoch to Neo, who felt something was wrong innately, knew something was up, saw through a far more robust fabrication, broke out, and, even if you count the shitty sequels, kept on fighting against his "programming" at every step of the way, even at the cost of his own life. Murdoch, once blue brain worms stop trying to assimilate him, just sinks into nostalgia. It's really kind of pathetic: to draw one final Matrix comparison, Murdoch is doing what Cypher would have done if he'd magically gotten the matrix's admin privileges, and the introspective wrenching in my gut is realizing that's probably what I'd do too.
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it's what Lum does (sorta) in Urusei Yatsura 2 as well
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And there's also the fact that they're not on Earth anymore. I couldn't tell if the alien vampires had put them on some sort of big ship or a station, but they're not any where near Earth. They don't even know what the Earth year would be let alone what their life was like before.
Dark City seems to be set in a nebulous time of maybe the 30s/whatever. I can see it having horror vibes, the setting, the atmosphere, the mystery, Sci Fi and horror have always been really close as far as genres go. Hell, many argue that Sci Fi was birthed from horror. You have things like Frankenstein, or I have no mouth and I must scream, some Teck episodes count too. You could even count the Jurassic Park book too. The horror of science gone too far, the horror as we understand humans more we ask what makes us human, what makes us us. That last one is what I think about when I watch Dark City.
On that note with Sci Fi and Horror over lapping so much, makes it hard when I try to organize my movies. I have horror and sci fi just blend together, because not all sci fi is horror.
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God I remember seeing this.
Ya know it’s quite interesting how horrortwt despises the terrifier franchise now they want some part of it.
Fuck the dude wasn’t even saying anything bad just that his own series won’t have stuff like that (and good riddance bc idk how you'd make a rapist clown be some political allegory).
Sperg but it's quite funny how it's said that horror can sometimes be political not never. Thats like saying characters like Chucky is an allegory for immigrants (Remember when ppl were rightfully trashing in praise of the shadows statement that the monsters in the hills have eyes for being some allegory for natives).
I think the problem with politics in horror is that it's always the same things its either 'rich ppl bad', 'totally not a stand-in of the big orange man' and ' humans are the bad guys actually'. (I also guess the same goes for religious themes in horror too but that's another bag of worms imo).
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If you really think about it, Neo isn't much better off than Murdoch, as far as being a puppet goes. Throughout the Matrix movies, Neo bases most of his decisions off choices presented to him directly or indirectly by other characters. Even his "decision" to accept that he's "the one" turns out to essentially be false when he's told by the Architect that he's nothing but a statistically predictable bug in the Matrix that the machines expect and prepared for long before he even meets Morpheus. On the other hand, Neo doesn't willingly decide to inure himself in delusions like Murdoch does at the end of Dark City, so there's that.