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SynthwaveDeux said:
I used to dislike zombies because I thought the idea behind them was boring, but as I get older and enter my never ending philosophical phase, the possibilities and variations which could cause zombie outbreak are intriguing. The humanity aspect of it.
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Zombies are the real blue-collar crew of the monster world. They're just regular folks, even after death. Like, a werewolf? Always just a werewolf. You never hear about a 'trucker werewolf' or a 'roofer werewolf'—they’re just out there howling and running through the woods like they’re better than everybody. But a zombie? Zombies don’t lose who they are. A clown turns into a zombie? Now it’s a zombie clown. A mechanic turns? Zombie mechanic—still covered in grease, probably trying to eat your brain with a wrench in hand. They’re like the working man’s monster. They don’t try to be fancy or pretty or anything. They simply exist.
 
sodomy lifestyle said:
I rarely follow movies these days unless I come across trailers on my daily YouTube crawl like that one. What movies are you thinking of?
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Scream

BrunoMattei said:
One of my favorite BTS anecdotes ever is for Alien 3 when director David Fincher was trying to convince the producers to give him time to make a good movie and all that. A guy goes up to him and takes him away and say's "You could film someone piss against a wall for 2 hours and call it Alien 3 and it will still make $40 million opening weekend!"
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TV's Adam West said:
trucker werewolf
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Ya know this as a concept could work as like a horror themed TV series where some grizzled old trucker werewolf goes from town to town fighting supernatural crimes, righting unnatural wrongs, and getting into intoxicated bar brawls with bigfoot and similar shit. Could probably get a good three seasons of decent cawntent out of this concept at least before the writers run out of ideas and have him fighting aliens or going back in time.

Then 20-30 years later it gets rebooted with some previously unmentioned lesbian mullatto granddaughter of his who confronts her trauma and institutional white supremacy with a diverse found family and....ok I will stop now before I accidentally curse this shit into existence.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I liked Covenant.
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Your Starter for 10 said:
I liked Covenant too. But imagine if it had been good.
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It's a shame Ridley caved to studio pressure to actually put the alien into the movie. Prometheus had problems, but the alien not being in the movie wasn't one of them. David was an interesting character on his own, but Ridley clearly altered his original plans for Covenant due to viewer complaints about Prometheus not having aliens. He did Shaw dirty too, and that sucked.

I think Covenant does have some cool themes though. I'm curious what Ridley would have done with a third movie. Was he really going to make David the creator of the alien, or was David just following a "recipe" he discovered? The derelict clearly had been crashed on LV-426 for a long time...
 
Samhain said:
I think Covenant does have some cool themes though. I'm curious what Ridley would have done with a third movie. Was he really going to make David the creator of the alien, or was David just following a "recipe" he discovered? The derelict clearly had been crashed on LV-426 for a long time...
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Scott said in interviews that he wanted a 3rd movie to go to the Engineers' planet and it was essentially paradise. It can be assumed that the themes of creation would carry over and Scott could have done a Book of Genesis or Dante's Paradiso but with Xenos and finally ending with how the derelict landed on LV426.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Scott said in interviews that he wanted a 3rd movie to go to the Engineers' planet and it was essentially paradise. It can be assumed that the themes of creation would carry over and Scott could have done a Book of Genesis or Dante's Paradiso but with Xenos and finally ending with how the derelict landed on LV426.
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Sucks that a third movie is extremely unlikely to ever happen now that Disney bought up everything. I know a lot of Alien fans dislike Prometheus and Covenant, but at least they were different from the usual Alien franchise nonsense.
 
Samhain said:
Sucks that a third movie is extremely unlikely to ever happen now that Disney bought up everything. I know a lot of Alien fans dislike Prometheus and Covenant, but at least they were different from the usual Alien franchise nonsense.
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I look at like: this means Covenant will have the darkest ending of the Alien saga with David allowed to run his mad science experiments on the remaining colonists and their fetuses. That's a really fucking dark ending and appropriate for the franchise.

I presume the next movie will half-assedly explain the derelict on LV426 as either being another recognizance ship by the Engineers or there will be a throwaway line explaining how it's David in the cockpit and with bad CGI/AI super-imposing David's face over the dead Space Jockey.
 
I recently watched the classic from 1957 called The Incredible Shrinking Man. To me, it felt more like a comedy and I did enormously enjoy the special effects and trickery to make the man appear tiny. As a cat owner, I personally would be terrified of my own cats if I were to shrink because they are ruthless bastards. I liked the vibe and the idea behind the cause of shrinking; an idea that still holds today. It is fun to wonder what people thought of it when they first saw it in cinemas, were the trick shots convincing them? Anyway, there was a certain handcrafted creativity involved which I appreciate in older (horror) movies.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Reviews for it are pretty bad, though surprisingly the audience reviews are *slightly* better than the critics'.
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Audiences are slightly retarded. Last night I watched The Order (2024) with friends and it was a very mid movie with some good shootouts yet it has a 90% audience rating.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Audiences are slightly retarded. Last night I watched The Order (2024) with friends and it was a very mid movie with some good shootouts yet it has a 90% audience rating.
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Agreed. I actually intend to give Wolfman a watch. Never seen the original, either, but the 2011 one is good fun, with two of my favourite scenes: Lawrence and his father fighting each other, and when Were-Larry breaks out of the asylum.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Audiences are slightly retarded. Last night I watched The Order (2024) with friends and it was a very mid movie with some good shootouts yet it has a 90% audience rating.
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Mind you some people like dead meat and some other horror themed bugmen get sponsored by these movies. If they say it’s good their followers will follow in step.
 
12345 said:
It's because the gap between PG and R was so big before they came up with PG13. Lots of parents took their kids to Alien because of Star Wars. Meanwhile Scott was going for a Texas Chainsaw Massacre in Space and had watched it for inspiration. You got Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom ripping a beating heart out of a chest, and of course Gremlins which is often a reason stated for PG13 being a thing in the first place.

I miss those times TBH. Now 2 fucks and suddenly you need adult accompaniment.

Also to add to the topic of more gore: Check out DVDs from Canada if you are in the States - we're the same region so it will work in any player (Or a region free one if you're in Europe), but also we have a better rating system than you guys; Your R is our 14A. That's right! We have an extra, more bloody and gory R rating! It's not exactly uncut but it does allow more. For a non-horror example, Deadpool was 14A here.
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It's funny that you mentioned Texas Chainsaw Massacre because Hooper was going for a PG rating with that movie.
SynthwaveDeux said:
I recently watched the classic from 1957 called The Incredible Shrinking Man. To me, it felt more like a comedy and I did enormously enjoy the special effects and trickery to make the man appear tiny. As a cat owner, I personally would be terrified of my own cats if I were to shrink because they are ruthless bastards. I liked the vibe and the idea behind the cause of shrinking; an idea that still holds today. It is fun to wonder what people thought of it when they first saw it in cinemas, were the trick shots convincing them? Anyway, there was a certain handcrafted creativity involved which I appreciate in older (horror) movies.
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I saw that at film festival a few years ago, and the effects are really impressive for the time period. They look good on the big screen. The novel by Richard Matheson is worth seeking out if you haven't read it.
 
*extended sigh of weary contempt*
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Ya know....now that Nosferatu has come and gone and I am giving it the mandatory 1-3 year wait-and-see to see if people are still hyping it after the initial glazing wears off, does anybody have any tidings of upcoming horror movies that don't make me want to bury my head in yet more shitty 80s wop horror flicks?

I mean I already have a very bad feeling about 28 Years Later, I already have had my mood brought low by the revelations of the currentyear Halloween re-re-re-reboot prequel tv series.....can somebody kindly do the needful and make me feel a lil more optimistic about spoopy shit coming out in the next few years? Fucking anything.....like I will even accept a halfway promising Jaws reboot I can delude myself into thinking might be breddygud......
 
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