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Your Starter for 10 said:
TCM2 owes about everything good in it to Dennis Hopper and Bill Mosely.
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Don't under cut how good Jim Siedow and Lou Perry were in TCM2. The running gag with Lou Perry always spittin loogies was so good, one of the best scenes in the movie was when Perry's character woke up after getting his face sliced off and the first thing he does spit a loogy, so funny. Caroline Williams was a pretty solid scream queen in TCM2 as well, it's hard to top Marilyn Burns but Williams did about as good as she could have.
 
I like TCM 2 quite a lot but... It might be petty but my inner gorehound has always been disappointed at the terribly lacking body count. There's fewer deaths than the first movie (not counting family members) that even a friend noticed this. The grand total number of on-camera deaths is 2. Jesus fuck, just throw in some more blood. And the most frustrating thing is that there is an awesome fucking gore scene that should have been in the fucking movie:


Plus the Joe Bob Briggs cameo where Tobe Hooper wanted to put this in as an after-credit scene:


There's better quality footage of the Joe Bob scene out there but fuck, use ai to restore the garage scene massacre, put both of these scenes back in the fucking movie like they belong and I would easily give TCM 2 a 9 out of 10 declaring it the best of the sequels. As it is, I have to give it a 7.5. It's good but it's still kind of underwhelming.

I also like part 3 and that got fucked with severely by the studio (New Line) and the MPAA.

There's even more cut footage from TCM 2 that has never seen the light of day like Dennis Hopper hallucinating chainsaws bursting through the wall (this scene happened immediately before Stretch visits him at the hotel) and the revelation that Stretch is his illegitimate daughter (no matter how perplexing that is).
 
BrunoMattei said:
I like TCM 2 quite a lot but... It might be petty but my inner gorehound has always been disappointed at the terribly lacking body count. There's fewer deaths than the first movie (not counting family members) that even a friend noticed this. The grand total number of on-camera deaths is 2. Jesus fuck, just throw in some more blood. And the most frustrating thing is that there is an awesome fucking gore scene that should have been in the fucking movie:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fa3bZLWcr7M
Plus the Joe Bob Briggs cameo where Tobe Hooper wanted to put this in as an after-credit scene:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=neQnoVbc6C0
There's better quality footage of the Joe Bob scene out there but fuck, use ai to restore the garage scene massacre, put both of these scenes back in the fucking movie like they belong and I would easily give TCM 2 a 9 out of 10 declaring it the best of the sequels. As it is, I have to give it a 7.5. It's good but it's still kind of underwhelming.

I also like part 3 and that got fucked with severely by the studio (New Line) and the MPAA.
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Yeah I always wondered about that. A full director's cut of TCM2 is definitely in my most wanted list, even though I'm sure it will probably never happen. It's interesting because the full unedited movie is supposed to be both way more silly but also way more bloody which for this movie is a great combination. Apparently the studio was more unhappy with the humor than the blood according to Tobe Hooper because the producers thought the fans would be upset with the comedy, like the severed hand flipping off Leatherface in that deleted clip you posted. It's like something straight out of AVGN, actually I think that exact thing did happen in an AVGN episode lol. And the Joe Bob Briggs scene where Joe Bob sees Leatherface and starts reading off the drive in totals and screaming about SAW FU! It's so silly lol

The humor is what makes TCM2 so good though, fuck trying to recreate the og movie because that's pointless and never going to be the same as the first time, just go balls to wall crazy and have fun with it. I do think pacing could be a genuine problem with the full unedited cut so then the question comes up of what's more important in a TCM movie, pacing or gore? In the final cut there is only two on screen deaths but there's still lots more violence in the movie beyond that so it's not like there isn't anything here for gorehounds. The scene with LG (Lou Perry) getting his face cut off and waking up being mostly nonchalant about the situation is so funny and bloody and the opening of the movie where the guy gets his head chopped in half in his car has always stuck with me since I first saw the movie because it's so well done. At least there's more on screen gore in TCM2 than the first one I guess.
 
BullfrogBill said:
The humor is what makes TCM2 so good though, fuck trying to recreate the og movie because that's pointless and never going to be the same as the first time, just go balls to wall crazy and have fun with it
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Tobe Hooper originally wanted to make comedies instead of horror. His first film, Eggshells, is an existential hippy comedy that didn't make a dime. So the comedy approach in TCM 2 makes a lot of sense in hindsight.
 
Felis Meanis said:
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I take it for granted that most posters in this thread have seen The Fearless Vampire Killers, but I simply must give it a shout after having watched it again.

It's too bad that it was directed by paedophile Roman Polanski, but it can't be overstated how good the movie is.

It's not outright horror, but rather comedy horror. Still, it has an unsettling atmosphere that contrasts nicely with the humour.

The scene (spoilers!) where the homosexual/bisexual son of the count, Herbert, tries to hit on Alfred is both unsettling and humorous, for example! :-)
The same goes for the scene where Alfred tries to stake the count in the crypt of the castle, and finds that Sarah's father, who's been turned into a vampire, is sleeping soundly in the coffin of Herbert.

It's a movie that hits the right spot of comedy horror by balancing the two elements quite nicely. The numerous occasions of comedy notwithstanding, it's still a movie worth watching for fans of horror.
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Didn't they make a musical of this?
 
Commander X said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aH1xzSZjBYY
I decided to revisit, after some time, Burnt Offerings, both the 1976 film and the 1973 novel by Robert Marasco. The movie's just sort of OK, but the ending is a shocker. Though I think the novel gave the haunted house genre a bit of a kick, you can say it helped spawn the wave of haunted house stories that came later in the decade. It's a slim book - Marasco had originally conceived of it as a screenplay and later said in interviews that it started out as a black comedy but instead it "just came out black". It's a real nasty, cold-hearted piece of work, and I mean that as a compliment.

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There's also Offerings (1989) which is about a killer autist.


I'm not even fucking joking. They straight up say that the killer has autism and that's why he's a murderous unemotional killing machine.
 
PS1gamenwatch said:
Didn't they make a musical of this?
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Apparently they did.

If what the posters megArnold, still_ichyn and rockfenris2005 writes in the above linked thread is anything to go by, then there's a huge difference in quality between the productions set up in Europe and on Broadway.
I didn't expect there to be such a huge difference between the productions of the same musical, regardless of the location (at least not between Europe and America), but there you go, I guess.
 
I enjoy TCM2 because the first part is wildly entertaining and nicely sets things up for the gloriously mad second part, the stark scuzziness of the original's vibe amplified into a deranged, garish nightmare. Besides TCM and TCM2 my other Hooper film that I really enjoyed is the big, bold, ambitious spectacle of Lifeforce. He took some mighty big swings with that one, especially with the second half and the finale.
 
Vampirella said:
I really think Spielberg did a lot more with poltergeist then they say. There is just too much of it that feels like Spielberg, I ever remember seeing a documentary on the making of it and it had some of Spielberg's family saying things like the guy ripping off his face was a prank that Spielberg would do as a kid with wet toilet paper.
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There's a very tl;dr web 1.0 deep dive here:


Even in Hooper's version of events they split the storyboards 50/50. Some of the actors (like the dwarf lady) say Spielberg did all the directing when they were on set. The soundtrack composer says he never met Tobe Hooper at all. Etc, etc.

Did you know they remade Poltergeist about a decade ago? Me neither.

BrunoMattei said:
There's also Offerings (1989) which is about a killer autist.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7y91dbxyje4
I'm not even fucking joking. They straight up say that the killer has autism and that's why he's a murderous unemotional killing machine.
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Sounds a lot more plausible than that phony baloney Tom Cruise movie.
 
Vampirella said:
Kind of like how I forgot they did a remake of Rosemary's Baby and showed the fucking baby!
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I didn't even know there was a remake. I know there's a sequel to the book but I don't think it's been adapted yet.
 
I watched Out of Darkness the other night (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt7527682/).
I’m quite conflicted about what I think of this movie. The visual execution was sublime, in the true sense of the word - representative of awe-inspiring beauty. I couldn’t look away, and paired with the acting, it successfully captured the hope and terror of discovering terra incognita. Likewise, the synthetic language created for the movie added to the immersive experience l.

But apart from the style, the substance was lacking. It paired a bland survival horror plot with an oddly contemporary message about learning tolerance. The more I think about it, the less the psychology of the protagonist makes sense by the end. There is a closing monologue that dispels the immersion within the characters the movie creates. I kept comparing this plot to the plot of the “Night Feeder” episode of Primal, which delivers almost the exact same story in a more compelling manner, without any dialogue.

On that note, anybody want to talk about Primal? I haven’t watched the second season because it just seems too distinct from the vision of the first. But the first season has some of my favorite adventure-horror.
 
Commander X said:
I enjoy TCM2 because the first part is wildly entertaining and nicely sets things up for the gloriously mad second part, the stark scuzziness of the original's vibe amplified into a deranged, garish nightmare. Besides TCM and TCM2 my other Hooper film that I really enjoyed is the big, bold, ambitious spectacle of Lifeforce. He took some mighty big swings with that one, especially with the second half and the finale.
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To butt into your comment, people insist that Leatherface is the worst Texas Chainsaw film. I disagree. Haven't seen it, but if and when I do, I'll probably still disagree. Or, if my opinion changes at all, I'll still dislike the one I'm on about:

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I posted this here as an excuse to relevantly mini-sperg about how much I dislike The Next Generation. Some posh twat, Matthew McConaughey, and Cross Dressing-Leatherface-Who-Looks-Somewhat-Like-Robert-Smith.
 
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Wot Zit Too Yah0996 said:
To butt into your comment, people insist that Leatherface is the worst Texas Chainsaw film. I disagree. Haven't seen it, but if and when I do, I'll probably still disagree. Or, if my opinion changes at all, I'll still dislike the one I'm on about:

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I posted this here as an excuse to relevantly mini-sperg about how much I dislike The Next Generation. Some posh twat, Matthew McConaughey, and Cross Dressing-Leatherface-Who-Looks-Somewhat-Like-Robert-Smith.
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Nice tabs.

Footage of this dude realizing he fucked up:

 
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