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28 Years Later just dropped and it has one of the best trailers I've ever seen. Using Boots is a stroke of genius.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mcvLKldPM08
Everyone seems to be more aware of the poem than me, but here's the Wiki link. Haunting stuff, although I'd love to see a poet better than me rewrite it as "Troons" to reflect this forum's endless fight against gender lunatics.

You know how Jordan Peele's movies (aside from Nope which I actually liked) are basically leftist talking points disguised as something deep?

I disagree, Get Out was the opposite of that as it portrayed Obama-worshipping white liberals as evil body snatchers.

I've seen Kill Her Goats, 3/10 is being very kind to it.
The trailer is.. indicative. Obligatory RLM "aerial drone shot" quip.

But why are there goats, though?

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I know I'm going to get shit for this, but I would rather go watch Alien: Resurrection than Aliens. For me, it's Alien > Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) > Alien: Resurrection > Aliens > Romulus > Covenant > Prometheus.

Alien: Resurrection is so fucking kino, and I'm tired of pretending its not. I know the problems people have with it. Okay, I acknowledge that. But it is extremely entertaining to me. It's so campy and weird. It reminds me of that show Lexx, or Firefly.
Resurrection has a lot of problems, but a lot of stuff in it looks cool -- the sets, the costumes, the aliens. The failed Ripley clones were creepy, but also a side effect of one of the movie's major problems (the inclusion of Ripley to begin with). The camp and humor is just so unnecessary in an Alien movie, and it makes the movie's tone feel really uneven and hard to take seriously. I won't even go into the Queen with a human womb and the Newborn. On one hand, I like how fucking weird the movie gets, but on the other, it's handled very poorly.
 
The trailer is.. indicative. Obligatory RLM "aerial drone shot" quip.
Not familiar with RLM's quips on the subject, but I have noticed that zero-budget indie filmmakers absolutely fell in love with aerial drone shots the second they became feasible. "Wow, it's like I can afford my own helicopter! And it doesn't cast a huge shadow like one of Kubrick's! Suck on that, The Shining"

PROTIP: by hovering over the trailer's timeline, you can use YouTube's "most watched" feature to find the naked women.
 
Not familiar with RLM's quips on the subject, but I have noticed that zero-budget indie filmmakers absolutely fell in love with aerial drone shots the second they became feasible. "Wow, it's like I can afford my own helicopter! And it doesn't cast a huge shadow like one of Kubrick's! Suck on that, The Shining"

Exactly what I was getting at. Here's a timelink to the most recent RLM review I remember that mentions the phenomenon.

PROTIP: by hovering over the trailer's timeline, you can use YouTube's "most watched" feature to find the naked women.

I'm generally reminded of the time a BotW review included what apparently was a director's ploy to get their weird fetish on tape under the guise of a movie script.
 
Get Out was great because hopefully it showed liberals that no matter how hard you suck up to them, black people will always fucking hate you.

That's a very optimistic view. I just realized that Get Out is a leftist movie in the sense that it feeds the self-hatred of white liberals.
 
This is Crossed 100+ with the serial numbers filed off, I am so fucking stoked. Pillar of skulls lets goooo!

If the plot truly go on the direction that the infected "evolved" to become more tribal instead, yeah, this will be basically that.

I mean, lets face it, its not like Crossed is ever getting any sort of major adaptation for very obvious reasons. (nvm that once you go beyond the shock value, its plot doesnt have much going for it).
Yeah, how chaotic things get in 28 Weeks Later was what I liked about it. The opening scene really sets the stage very well.

I have to agree about the infected situation in the movies not making sense. Someone who gets infected and doesn't drink water would die within several days. If you could hole up someone safe with enough food and water for 3-5 weeks, most of the problem would take care of itself.

28 years later seems that will build upon the rage virus "evolving" plot that weeks kind of started so they probably have reached the point where they actually can realize they have basic human needs to satisfy, even if at the most minimun level possible.
Nigga I am gonna start my fucking sermonising as to why I detest that series so much at this rate, but i'm saving my grand unified "why crossed fucking sucks ass" thesis for when the alleged TV series enters production/is cancelled

I already mentioned before but Crossed is impossible to properly adapt, just like Blood Meridian, for the very reason that there is so much gross degenerate shockporn that it they would need to change that shit and if they change that shit, would it still be Crossed?

Crossed thrives on its shock factor as the plots in them tend to be...rather shit to be honest (and the main character of the first one is a spitting image of comic Rick Grimes but with glasses, I wonder why...). So I legit dont know why they are even considering adapting it.

Even Y Man was a better idea for adaptation and there was no way that could have worked in current year (and it didnt, fucking thing was cancelled halfway the first season).
 
Crossed thrives on its shock factor as the plots in them tend to be...rather shit to be honest (and the main character of the first one is a spitting image of comic Rick Grimes but with glasses, I wonder why...). So I legit dont know why they are even considering adapting it.
I have mentioned this before a bunch of times, but one of the many reasons I detest the series on a nigh existential level is that I actually remember the lead up to its release where Garth Ennis was smugly gloating about how it would be this ultra edgy and yet super smart deconstruction of the zombie genre and a perfect "take that" against people who speculated how they would do in a zombie outbreak.

Cue release and whoop de fucking do, its the most generic zombie story cliches and storybeats imaginable, shit that has been the fucking norm since the 70s and in some cases the freaking 60s, but the zombies are obsessed with rape and talk like characters from the fucking Young Ones so apparently we are supposed to treat this as a gritty masterpiece of genre deconstruction.

The entire "take that" against internet people who chat about how they would try to survive a zombie outbreak....massive fucking sin in need of correction obviously... amounted to some random guy at the start of the first series who randomly decided salt would kill the zombies because he read it online (this scene took place like a year after the outbreak so a year after online was a thing), and wound up getting himself and his wife and daughter raped to death because he was written to be so fucking stupid. Real fucking cutting critique there I know.

I could go on for hours, for literal hours about how much I fucking hate this series. I even fucking half considered doing a bulk series review on this very thread just to enunciate each and every way I fucking hate this shit and each and every fucking entry, but frankly I would rather rewatch all those shitty Zombi series entries I have been bitching about the past few weeks than do this.
 
I disagree, Get Out was the opposite of that as it portrayed Obama-worshipping white liberals as evil body snatchers.
You're both right. With Get Out, Peele is saying even the good white people are racist, a subject I'm sure he loves discussing with his white* wife.

*Yes, I know she's a Jew.
I already mentioned before but Crossed is impossible to properly adapt, just like Blood Meridian, for the very reason that there is so much gross degenerate shockporn that it they would need to change that shit and if they change that shit, would it still be Crossed?
John Hillcoat is attempting to adapt Blood Meridian, by the way.

Which is weird and redundant since The Proposition is basically a take on Blood Meridian. But I wish him well. He'll need the luck.
 
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I mean, lets face it, its not like Crossed is ever getting any sort of major adaptation for very obvious reasons.
28 Years Later is the closest I want to see to any kind of Crossed +100 adaptation. The Crazies was the closest I wanted to see to an OG Crossed series adaptation. I don't think live-action, true to the book Crossed would be entertaining to watch, actually I think you could make an interesting movie out of The Thin Red Line, and only that volume, if you cut out a couple of pages for taste definitely not commercially viable. The content works in a paper format that I drag out when I'm home with a fever or in a mindset that I need a shock to get out of. It's something I read to feel bad when I want to feel bad, I don't want to see it on the screen.
I know in 28 Weeks Later it's implied the virus was spreading to countries like France but if this is just set in the UK again, I want to believe that it only happened there, and the British are uniquely retarded and keep causing outbreaks while the rest of the world just continues on.
They've established asymptomatic carriers, which was the only interesting thing 28 Weeks did. I'm hoping they go the route of the virus affecting some people differently or having an acute stage followed by a mellowing of symptoms. The things we saw in 28 Days Later are not surviving multiple winters and are starving to death after they've eaten all their weaker brethren and the slow wildlife. Could also go the route of infected children surviving and clearing the infection, but with altered behavior and growing up semi-feral, eg: the girl with all the gifts.
 
Considering it's Garland and Boyle, how much do any of you want to bet there's some throw away line about how the virus would've been contained/eradicated if only one group of people hadn't avoided taking the vaccine.

Hell now that I write it out, instead of a throw away line, I suspect it will be a major plot point.
 
I've always thought vampires would be more interesting than zombies. A virus that makes humans and animals dependent on consuming blood and transmits through saliva-to-bloodstream contact would fuck the global population in a matter of months.

There are movies about vampire infections, you really dont gotta look very far.

There is even one that shows what happens when vampires take over society and try to run it as normal, with humans in literal blood farms.

And the results are...rather eye opening on why vampires would much rather rule from the shadows rather than "take over the world". Eventually that precious blood is going to start running out as there aint enough humans to feed the entire vampire population and when it runs out, then what? Its an interesting movie none the less.

Daybreakers it was called I think.
Really? I'm a big fan of the original, and the remake is garbage. They make Candyman a spirit of Black vengeance against Evil Whites, because blacks never did nuffin'. It would be insufferable race baiting garbage as a standalone property, and as a remake it spits in the face of the original.

Thats like turning The Grudge ghost into a WW2 ghost getting back at the americans or something, its just not what the original represents.

Also a terrible misuse of Tony Todd, the man that, lets face it, carried the shitty sequels on his back through his acting and charm. May the big guy rest in peace.
John Hillcoat is attempting to adapt Blood Meridian, by the way.

Which is weird and redundant since The Proposition is basically a take on Blood Meridian. But I wish him well. He'll need the luck.

Yeah, idk if he should bother, I mean, Blood Meridian is the most "violent" story of its author (and he seems to have a thing for nihilistic violence, possibly a "healthy" outlet for disturbed thoughts he has if I had to guess) but I wouldnt say its the best.

And like I said, either he faithfully adapts it and its cancelled out the ass because the story sure as fuck doesnt give a shit about modern sensibilities or he tones down the violence, degeneracy and racism (cuz there is a LOT of racism in it) and in a way "ceases" to be Blood Meridian.

The Judge is one of the most despicable villains in literature and you cant portray him well without going "all the way" on his wretched nature (and lets face it, lines that walk the thin line between cool and "ouch edgy" like "“Whatever exists, he said. Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.” ")

The entire "take that" against internet people who chat about how they would try to survive a zombie outbreak....massive fucking sin in need of correction obviously... amounted to some random guy at the start of the first series who randomly decided salt would kill the zombies because he read it online (this scene took place like a year after the outbreak so a year after online was a thing), and wound up getting himself and his wife and daughter raped to death because he was written to be so fucking stupid. Real fucking cutting critique there I know.

I did forget this character until you reminded me, now all the feelings of peak eye roll cringe have returned. So was that suppose to be a "take that" towards online nerds?

The longer I learn about comic book writers and artists, the more I see that Chris Chan would have fit right in if he was less of a retard (and could draw "slightly" better)
 
I think you could make an interesting movie out of The Thin Red Line,
In one of my ten thousand previous seethe fests about the series that I naturally keep in an indexed archive, I noted this was about the most passable fucking arc of the entire series due in large part to how the edgetard rape zombies only show up at the half way point, and the whole thing playing out as a generic outbreak scenario.

Thing is, the only reason it comes off so well in comparison to the rest of Crossed is by abandoning everything that defines the series and just being a boilerplate "first days of the zombie apocalypse" story, and had it been just its own separate thing with no connection to Crossed it would have been instantly forgotten as an interchangeable zombie comic like so many others, which makes it less a good comic and more "well this was a fucking breather in the endless mire of insufferable shit" moment before it went right the fuck back to being full edgetard bullshit again.

Besides, we already have a movie that is effectively "First days of the Crossed outbreak but actually done halfway fucking competently without being utterly fucking insufferable" with The Sadness, which has the added bonus of not involving one of Ennis's precious "snarky britbong special forces badass who gloriously lectures everyone around him every fucking second" OCs.

I did forget this character until you reminded me, now all the feelings of peak eye roll cringe have returned. So was that suppose to be a "take that" towards online nerds?

The longer I learn about comic book writers and artists, the more I see that Chris Chan would have fit right in if he was less of a retard (and could draw "slightly" better)
I honestly have not even exposed myself to the worst of it. There was a dedicated anti-comicsgate arc (yes...really) in which evil nurdbros take advantage of the crossed outbreak to rape and torture a strong woman comic creator into making them big booby manbaby comics they want....I wish to god I was joking here. One of the first blockers in my mind when I considered doing a series rundown and inflicting it on this thread like an STD was realising I would finally have to force myself to read that shit and yeah that aint fuckin happening.
 
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If you ever get too excited over 28 Years Later, may I remind you that the one in charge of the second entry of this illustrious trilogy to be is none other than this bitch

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Who thought that handing her over this project was a good idea? The Candyman sequel sucked and The Marvels speak for itself. She has very little experience in general, much less with the horror genre why are we just handling her these classic franchises?

I honestly have not even exposed myself to the worst of it. There was a dedicated anti-comicsgate arc (yes...really) in which evil nurdbros take advantage of the crossed outbreak to rape and torture a strong woman comic creator into making them big booby manbaby comics they want....I wish to god I was joking here. One of the first blockers in my mind when I considered doing a series rundown and inflicting it on this thread like an STD was realising I would finally have to force myself to read that shit and yeah that aint fuckin happening.

I remember a classic quote

"Giving creative freedom to an artists can either be the best or worst decision you can make"

Editors are known to be annoying Mfs but this shit was ok to fly?
 
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Alien shenanigans! <3
Thank you for the detailing of your thoughts on Alien: Romulus and other Alien-movies.

I agree with you pretty much completely regarding Alien: Romulus. It's a flawed, but worthwhile, movie. I do regard Prometheus to be the better movie though. Not only is the acting in Prometheus good, but I also love the direction Ridley Scott took with it, although I believe he did fuck it up by [SPOILERS regarding Prometheus and Alien: Covenant] making David the low-key creator of the Xenomorphs. Providing some nuggets of truth regarding the origins of the Xenomorphs is valid, but I believe their ultimate origin being a mystery would serve their presence in the movies well. David was initially my favourite character of the re-vitalization of the series (Michael Fassbender did such a great job), but since Covenant he's become one of my least favourite characters. To make David the implied creator of the ALIEN, i.e. Xenomorphs, was a huge mistake, and Ridley Scott's apparent obsession with Artificial Intelligence does not translate well into the Alien-franchise in the way he has implemented the theme. Just take the scene where Walter and David engage in combat in Covenant, for example: It's absolute nonsense, and takes away from the horror-element of the franchise.

I'm not sure if I can agree with you regarding your appreciation of the campiness of Alien: Resurrection, but I still find it a valid opinion to hold. Sometimes, you just gotta appreciate some silliness.
I like Zack Snyder's "300", despite its silliness, for example. It's a bad movie in many aspects, but I just can't help but enjoy it!
 
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I do regard Prometheus to be the better movie though. Not only is the acting in Prometheus good, but I also love the direction Ridley Scott took with it, although I believe he did fuck it up by [SPOILERS regarding Prometheus and Alien: Covenant] making David the low-key creator of the Xenomorphs. Providing some nuggets of truth regarding the origins of the Xenomorphs is valid, but I believe their ultimate origin being a mystery would serve their presence in the movies well. David was initially my favourite character of the re-vitalization of the series (Michael Fassbender did such a great job), but since Covenant he's become one of my least favourite characters. To make David the implied creator of the ALIEN, i.e. Xenomorphs, was a huge mistake, and Ridley Scott's apparent obsession with Artificial Intelligence does not translate well into the Alien-franchise in the way he has implemented the theme. Just take the scene where Walter and David engage in combat in Covenant, for example: It's absolute nonsense, and takes away from the horror-element of the franchise.
One of the many problems with Prometheus (which I also like a lot despite its flaws) is that it isn't well-constructed enough for anyone to explain away this problem. The movie has plot holes and script mistakes that are so big that it's hard to make arguments and speculate about the plot/meaning because Scott might have just fucked that stuff up, too.

Nevertheless... David did not "create the xenomorphs." He found and experimented with the bioweapons technology that was created by the Engineers, and that experimentation resulted in what we think of as a xenomorph, sure. But there's a stone mural early in the film, before anyone gets infected, that depicts humanoid xenomorphs like the one from the original Alien film. That indicates the xenomorph proper exists before David gets his hands on the spores.

Xenomorphs take on the basic form of whatever creature they implant with eggs. Engineers have the same basic morphology as humans and share some similarity at the genetic level. (There’s an unbelievably huge script error about that in the film, but let's put that aside.) So any xenomorphs who hatch from an infected Engineer will look basically like the xenomorph we know and love. So, even in that sense, David did not create the xenomorphs.


You could say this is actually another plothole due to lazy filmmaking, and it would be hard to argue against that given the movie's other problems. And all of this is, I know, beside the point that the Prometheus and Covenant stories happening before the original Alien is stupid and weakens the original film.
 
You've seen City Of Lost Children, right?
a lot of the same cast and crew
Yes, I have. I also liked Amélie. Audrey Tautou is just my type. Part of the reason I like Alien Resurrection is because I like Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
Resurrection has a lot of problems, but a lot of stuff in it looks cool -- the sets, the costumes, the aliens. The failed Ripley clones were creepy, but also a side effect of one of the movie's major problems (the inclusion of Ripley to begin with). The camp and humor is just so unnecessary in an Alien movie, and it makes the movie's tone feel really uneven and hard to take seriously. I won't even go into the Queen with a human womb and the Newborn. On one hand, I like how fucking weird the movie gets, but on the other, it's handled very poorly.
I'm aware of many of the problems people have. I don't think they should have included Ripley at all, either. But the film is appealing to me from the standpoint of being entertaining. It's not a serious movie. I don't get the impression it was trying to be. I don't think there is a way that an alien movie is "supposed to be", because I think Aliens, which is very highly regarded, deviates significantly from the original, and most of the franchise also deviates from the same formula. This is especially true of Prometheus/Covenant.
I agree with you almost completely regarding Alien: Romulus. It's a flawed, but worthwhile, movie. I do regard Prometheus to be the better movie though. Not only is the acting in Prometheus good, but I also love the direction Ridley Scott took with it
My issue with Prometheus is that it is so heavily reliant on the exposition, while also not delivering that exposition in a way that makes the concepts or ideas that Ridley Scott is trying to explore coherent. The plot and timeline of events all becomes rather convoluted, too.
 
It's an action film with some jumpy bits in it, both of them are. Alien and Alien 3 are horror films, Aliens is not.
"Aliens is an action movie!"
>Half the fucking action hero types get murdered within 10 minutes of an encounter
>Action hero soldier dude has mental breakdown
Nice fucking shitty opinion, a bread tuber give it to you?
 
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