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Internet War Criminal said:
Much more like a dweeb virgin walking up to ron jeremy asking him about girls getting plowed by horse dicks, tbh
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Yes, we know, you were jealous of Ron's ability to suck himself off. We totally get it, man. You have that whole "It should have been meeee!" Thing going on.
 
BrunoMattei said:
You're like a simpleton going up to Archimedes and asking him to teach you math.
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Thank you Archimedes hopefully my math will start to come along and I'm sure joined up writing won't be too far behind. In all seriousness, appreciate your recommendations and I'll compile a proper list and maybe post it later so lurkers can steal the whole thing. In the mean time here are some literally me asking for movie recommendations images for you guys conjured by my robot friend.
 

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Forgive me for double posting but here's the full list for anyone interested, the formatting might not be to everyone's taste but that's how I've laid it out in my notes.
-European recommendations list-

Filmographies
Dario Argento*
Lucio Fulci*
Mario Bava
Michele Soavi

*Exclude 90s era

Specific recommendations
Nightmare Castle (1965)
Night of the Devils (1972)
Flavia: the Heretic (1974)
Night Train Murders (1975)
Werewolf Woman (1976)
Hitch Hike (1977)
Suspiria (1977)
Beyond the Darkness (1979)
The Killer Nun (1979)
Contamination (1980)
Inferno (1980)
Macabre (1980)
The Beyond (1981)
Tattoo (1981)
Angst (1983)
The Wild Beasts (1984)
Demons (1985)
Spider Labyrinth (1988)
Nekromantik 1 & 2 (1988 & 1991)
Amoklauf (1994)
Thesis (1996)
High Tension (2003)
Antibodies (2005)
Inside (2007)
Frontier(s) (2007)
Timecrimes (2007)
Let the Right One In (2008)
Martyrs (2008)
Sauna (2008)
Dead Snow (2009)
Kidnapped (2010)
Trollhunter (2010)
Thale (2012)
[Rec] 1-4 (2007 - 2014)

Sub-genre recommendations

Giallo
Short Night of Glass Dolls (1971)
My Dear Killer (1972)
What Have you Done to Solange (1972)
Torso (1973)
The Perfume of the Lady in Black (1974)
Autopsy (1975)
Giallo in Venice (1979)
The Killer is Still Among Us (1986)

Zombies
Everything by Fulci sans Zombi 3
Let Sleeping Corpses Lie (1974)
Nightmare City (1980)*
Cemetery Man (1994)

*Bad but entertainingly bad

Cannibals
Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals (1977)
Mountain of the Cannibal God (1978)
Anthropophagus (1980)
Lenzi trilogy (1972 - 1981)*1
Ruggero Deodato cannibal trilogy (1977 - 1984)*2
Massacre in Dinosaur Valley (1985)

1*Sacrifice, Eaten Alive and Cannibal Ferox
2*Last Cannibal World, Cannibal Holocaust and Cut and Run

Silent Film recommendations
Dr. Caligari (1919)
Genuine: The Tale of a Vampire (1920)
The Golem and How he came in to the world (1920)
Nosferatu (1922)
 
SnurgleDirge said:
I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.
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Shoutout to Fulci's The New York Ripper too.
Not a proper horror I guess, but rather a very mean spirited giallo that tapped into the early 80's slasher boom.

Also Argento's The Stendhal Syndrome is underrated imho. Again, not true horror but not that far off.
 
There was a horror film from the 80's which had a scene where a vampire had a human chained to a bench and was carving slices off his calf muscle while he was still alive. I don't know the name of the film but I remember that scene. Always thought it was quite inventive.
 
Iron Jaguar said:
There was a horror film from the 80's which had a scene where a vampire had a human chained to a bench and was carving slices off his calf muscle while he was still alive. I don't know the name of the film but I remember that scene. Always thought it was quite inventive.
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That sounds like either Daybreakers or Eat Locals, but those definitely aren't 80's movies.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
9 more of those and you get a free Sonichu medallion.
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9 more ain't nothing! I'm gonna earn that damn medallion, just you watch!
Almighty Kevin said:
Shoutout to Fulci's The New York Ripper too.
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I did plan to watch The New York Ripper a decade ago but I just couldn't get access to it at the time. The time in my life I would have naturally progressed from Dawn of the Dead to Zombi 2 to the rest of Italian horror I didn't have the knowledge to do so unfortunately.
 
I was tempted to make a thread but there's just not enough info yet and I'd rather not stoke the flames for more politically correct nonsense.


Decent premise for a slasher. Not digging the look of the killer but using one of those old time-y wigs is a decent touch. What ticked off the alarm bells for me is that it's intended as a parody/homage of 90's slashers. Which makes no sense because the whole point of doing an 80's throwback is to do an actual 80's throwback and excluding the mediocre flick Valentine there were no 90's slashers set on holidays. That's an 80's thing. The second thing I took interest in is that they're trying to sell it as a political slasher. This is not just a soundbyte but this is how this thing is being marketed. I'll quote the directors (believe it or not, they're not black or lesbians which honestly kind of surprised me):


"KM: I can definitely sense the love of the 90s teen horror cycle in Founders Day, and how that’s kind of a big influence. Were there – other than Scream – other inspirations or ideas? Especially in terms of the killer design and the costume with this Sock and Buskin mask, I think it’s very cool.

CM: I’d love to talk about the design, but I’ll mention quickly, another influence that I like to say is Jaws, actually; the first act, like will they or will or will they not open the beaches? What should they do, and the effect that has on Amity as a whole is really interesting. So kind of transferring that into a slasher framework was fun and central to this movie.

Regarding the mask and that whole design, when we were first conceiving this, I don’t think it was anything near what it ended up becoming. There wasn’t initially this political component to the movie, it was more about this town festival. But when it became that, a few things clicked into place. We wanted it to have this sort of aged leather feel; it’s a tragedy mask, so it’s half smiling, half frowning,"

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"EB: And I really liked that mask because there’s this idea of duality and two sides, and the theatricality of it, if you want to play like the political theater of it all and making statements and things like that.

CB: We wanted to use red as a central color for this, with how striking it is. It’s also political in a way, it gives that sort of edge, so once we kind of landed on the red, we kind of felt like it really became something. It was just very intentional but not gimmicky, something kind of unique to it, and the wig was the final touch. And it also aided in that almost historical undertone through the movie."

"EB: That’s when that’s when I watched Scream, you know? See it before you should see it, it’ll be super fun. Thematically – and there are pieces of this that probably, to an extent, if we go too deep might peel back too many layers – but I think ultimately, we just wanted to demonstrate the kind of arbitrariness to some of what happens and how personal politics can can go into this tug of war and kind of infect other people and then how leadership positions can be tainted by that.

CB: We have this political framework, but a lot of it’s used to just explore certain social tendencies. It’s a social thriller, I think, predominantly, with how we’re trying to explore people through that political framework. We don’t want to dive too deeply, but we also want it to be sort of attainable and understandable, and something that someone who’s young could comprehend and kind of see what we’re saying. But then someone who’s seen this kind of stuff before can really have a certain appreciation of.

EB: I’ve seen a couple of things where people are saying that the film never actually takes a side, one candidate or the other, or expands on what their platform is. But I disagree, I think that’s exactly the statement; that there are a lot of empty platitudes and a lot of posturing and buzzwords, and that’s kind of the statement we’re making is that these two people are kind of one of the same for us, because they are. They’re both guilty of what they’re accusing the other of doing, and I think that that’s very fun to play with. That’s why I like their rivalry so much."

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I always look sideways at a movie that cites Scream as an inspiration. But it's not looking too hot. You could always make the argument with assholes that if a slasher movie set on Founders Day or whatever is okay then ergo a Juneteenth slasher is equally fine.
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Looks just like another dumbquist feeble slasher. I'm sure there'll be neutered kills (and neutered by the writer/director, not the MPAA), no nudity, and a fully motivated and explained bad guy - you know just exactly like all those'80s slashers. I mean a political slasher could actually be interesting - or at least fun (hell even that The Hunt or whatever was almost a fun movie). But the problem, as it always is, is that to parody or explore a topic, you need to at least make an attempt to understand it, and I can guarantee that's not going to happen, which is ironic since the writer is talking about empty platitudes in his interview. I can guarantee the "red" team will be some shrieking harpy overbearing over-religious type that start screeching about how she wants more abortion laws as she gets stabbed to death. The yokel useless cop trope looks to be fully covered.

I really don't understand why it's so hard to make a good slasher. I mean you just put some fucking normal, likeable people out there, and gruesomely kill a few of them, then have the rest do some fucking non-retarded things to figure out what's killing them, and then try to and either get away or stop/kill the killer. Like that's literally all there is to it. And yet we get garbage pile after garbage pile of unlikeable, a-charismatic shitheels getting bloodlessly killed, usually by a fully explained (or seemingly explained, but OMG it's a retarded twist) killer, and then I'm not sure what happens in the second half because I'm usually so bored I'm asleep or so annoyed I just watch something else.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I highly doubt I will. This guy has nothing in his resume that gives me any hope that this will be anything but the Bye Bye Man with a wig on.
 
Vampirella said:
90s slashers were already a parody of slasher movies. How do you double up on that.
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Scary Movie, a parody of three movies that were like a year old at the time, one of them being The Matrix

Your Starter for 10 said:
But the problem, as it always is, is that to parody or explore a topic, you need to at least make an attempt to understand it,
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"Sheeit I aint goin in there, yo I seen this movie, black dude dies first"

^hire me Hollywood, that's only a sample
 
Probably get neg-rated to oblivion but I'm not much of a Scream fan and I think it was one of the worst things to happen to slashers. The first movie didn't even have any cool kills, it was mostly a bunch of lame jumpscares.

I understand that Craven was satirising slashers and horror tropes, but it seems like he inadvertently created a bunch of way more annoying trends with Scream. Sterile thrillers with casts full of semi-talented actors known for shitty teen melodrama seemed to explode after it.

I hate the faux-clever horror meta (hur dur "Wes Carpenter"), I hate the exagerrated acting and I don't care what point Wes was trying to make with any of it. Was it on purpose to cast a bunch of almost-30-year-olds to play high school kids?

The 90's in general was pretty bad for slashers imo.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
Probably get neg-rated to oblivion but I'm not much of a Scream fan and I think it was one of the worst things to happen to slashers. The first movie didn't even have any cool kills, it was mostly a bunch of lame jumpscares.

I understand that Craven was satirising slashers and horror tropes, but it seems like he inadvertently created a bunch of way more annoying trends with Scream. Sterile thrillers with casts full of semi-talented actors known for shitty teen melodrama seemed to explode after it.

I hate the faux-clever horror meta (hur dur "Wes Carpenter"), I hate the exagerrated acting and I don't care what point Wes was trying to make with any of it. Was it on purpose to cast a bunch of almost-30-year-olds to play high school kids?

The 90's in general was pretty bad for slashers imo.
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The 90's was bad for horror in general excluding foreign horror where there were more than a few gems. The popularity of Scream is kind of a dammed if you do and dammed if you don't situation. It reinvigorated the genre. Undoubtedly. There's Millenials who got their first taste of the genre because of Scream. So there's that. But, it ushered in a wave of smug and ultimately toothless horror films that (de)volved into the PG-13 Japanese ghost girl remake movies, then finally Saw and Hostel and the removal of Jack Valenti of the MPAA ushered in new levels of gore and brutality. Then the genre tripped over itself with the wave of remake movies. Now, I suggest after much in the way of growing pains, we're at this weird but ultimately prosperous period for the genre: more emphasis on indie films and things that are just generally different and have done well on the mainstream stage.
 

Speaking of political slashers, Onur Tukel has one out soon. Never seen him do a horror.
He's an indie director, bit hit or miss but he's definitely unafraid to tackle controversial politics.
For example Scenes from an Empty Church was his film about a NYC church during the pandemic, run by 2 priests who are on opposite sides of the lockdowns, and reluctantly open their doors to parishioners. He also directed a film called The Misogynists which follows 2 Trump supporters on the night Trump got elected, and they're celebrating in a hotel room, conversing about their reasonings behind voting for him, while also arguing with other people who come and go from their hotel room. One of my favs from 2019 (iirc when it was released).
This new one, Poundcake, seems to be a slasher about a killer that only targets straight white males.
Could be cringe dogshit, could be somewhat smart yet entertaining like The Hunt, I'm intrigued of course.
 
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