/horror/ general megathread - Let's talk about movies and shit.

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Werewolf movies do take a lot of suspension of disbelief if it's modern times and the setting is in an urban location (like the second and third act of An American Werewolf in London) or the suburbs (Ginger Snaps). It's probably why some werewolf movies have the curse end while some people who witness a transformation are indifferent (The Howling) or the big revelation is overshadowed by the results of a big sports match (Dog Soldiers). Despite being a Syfy original movie, Battledogs at least addressed the threat of werewolves overrunning New York by quarantining all those who were attacked and survived.

The howling is a very silly movie, that ending is played up as if it is some sort of social commentary but it still makes no sense. Also having people have control over their transformation kinda defeats the purpose of the werewolf, the scary part it the person doesn't even have control over their own savagery which American Werewolf in London gets right, even the transformation in that movie looks painful. Werewolfs having some secret cult works better with vampires but even then is silly when vampires have secret societies in universes where it is very easy to be turn into one.

 

[Iron Father]

Despite being a Syfy original movie, Battledogs at least addressed the threat of werewolves overrunning New York by quarantining all those who were attacked and survived.

I appreciated Late Phases (2014) in part because it treated the werewolf like a threatening community outbreak (it takes place in a retirement village).

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I legit debate to myself if The Heretic or Believer is worse, I guess the former is worse but its almost more entertaining, the latter cant even be bothered to be that.

I say Believer is worse given it outright misses the point of many things in the original film like the religious themes behind it, Chris' entire character, and the ending of how it's one of good triumphing.

Believer takes a shit all over the original to deliver another soulless nostalgic reboot that tries way too hard to be PC and bigger than the original (two possessed little girls and more religions doing exorcisms). Doesn't help the scares feel like generic ghost movie scares with generic creepy children.

The dumbest shit is how it also tries to take plot points of Halloween 2018 by making Chris into some estranged loser who ruined her daughter's relationship, and then revolved her life around learning exorcisms around the world without even becoming a nun or as though the demon can possess Regan any day now.

I normally don't complain about shit like this but the fucking patriarchy line was some forced bullshit by the male writers of the film and it is one of the most disrespectful things that could be said about what happened in the original, especially when it was important for Chris not to see it, and the fact both men died to save her daughter.

 

[SnurgleDirge]

I appreciated Late Phases (2014) in part because it treated the werewolf like a threatening community outbreak (it takes place in a retirement village).

Watched Ginger Snaps last night and it also treats Werewolves as a potential viral outbreak it's just that Werewolves absolutely eviscerate whoever they might infect.

I wonder if Daybreak but with Werewolves would be an interesting film or not?

 

[TV's Adam West]

I prefer discussions that are about not rape, like how what the blind man did with the turkey baster was a NAP violation but not actual rape tbh

He did explicitly say he's not a rapist, so... Besides, the kids broke into his property, violating the NAP, so it would be their fault if they got raped, anyway.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

He did explicitly say he's not a rapist, so... Besides, the kids broke into his property, violating the NAP, so it would be their fault if they got raped, anyway.

My man gets it

 

[SnurgleDirge]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

I can't stand Italian horror (while I do recognize what is good about it, I don't enjoy it at all), so I can't recommend anything really. The "New French Extremity" stuff is at least watchable, even if it is a little goofy and fart-huffing - Martyrs, High Tension (one of the best movies with one of the dumbest twists), Inside, and Frontier(s) are all fun. The Germans have Nekromantik 1 & 2, Amoklauf (where you can see the dark origins of Uwe Boll) , and Angst; then they also have a lot of horror-adjacent thrillers, a lot of them based on true crime, but with like extra gore and aloof German judgy overtones in them, like Angst, Antibodies, Tattoo - they're all pretty good, but I wouldn't really call them horror. Germans are fucking weird.

Spain supposedly has a bunch of good horror movies, but I can't really name any. I never make it through them, they all seem very talky (and this is from someone who loves slow-burn stuff). Scandinavia has a few gems (and a whole lot of trash); Trollhunter, Thale and Dead Snow are goofy yet serious enough if you're looking for lighthearted, and then stuff like Let the Right One In and Sauna do the depressing slow burn side of thing. Also Ritual, but I think that's a British movie that just takes place in Scandinavia, either way it's good.

Anyway, Bruno can probably recommend the best of the Italian stuff, I just can't get past the shitty sound design (which they fucking do intentionally) and heavy reliance on heavy-breathing killer-cam.

 

[The Nothingness]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

I recommend Inferno. It's part of Dario Argento's Three Mothers trilogy and the main theme is banger.

 

[modern horrors]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

Not Italian but Spanish:
Tesis (Thesis) (1996)
Los cronocrimenes (Timecrimes) (2007)
Secuestrados (Kidnapped) (2010)
and the [Rec] series

 

[Vampirella]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

@BrunoMattei is the expert on Italian movies. I know some good silent German films if you're interesting in that.

 

[ilovejews]

Not Italian but Spanish:
Tesis (Thesis) (1996)
Los cronocrimenes (Timecrimes) (2007)
Secuestrados (Kidnapped) (2010)
and the [Rec] series

Thesis was pretty good, thanks for the other recommendations. REC is an obvious winner too.

 

[SnurgleDirge]

I can't stand Italian horror (while I do recognize what is good about it, I don't enjoy it at all), so I can't recommend anything really. The "New French Extremity" stuff is at least watchable, even if it is a little goofy and fart-huffing - Martyrs, High Tension (one of the best movies with one of the dumbest twists), Inside, and Frontier(s) are all fun. The Germans have Nekromantik 1 & 2, Amoklauf (where you can see the dark origins of Uwe Boll) , and Angst; then they also have a lot of horror-adjacent thrillers, a lot of them based on true crime, but with like extra gore and aloof German judgy overtones in them, like Angst, Antibodies, Tattoo - they're all pretty good, but I wouldn't really call them horror. Germans are fucking weird.

Spain supposedly has a bunch of good horror movies, but I can't really name any. I never make it through them, they all seem very talky (and this is from someone who loves slow-burn stuff). Scandinavia has a few gems (and a whole lot of trash); Trollhunter, Thale and Dead Snow are goofy yet serious enough if you're looking for lighthearted, and then stuff like Let the Right One In and Sauna do the depressing slow burn side of thing. Also Ritual, but I think that's a British movie that just takes place in Scandinavia, either way it's good.

Anyway, Bruno can probably recommend the best of the Italian stuff, I just can't get past the shitty sound design (which they fucking do intentionally) and heavy reliance on heavy-breathing killer-cam.

I recommend Inferno. It's part of Dario Argento's Three Mothers trilogy and the main theme is banger.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MxPig78E844

Not Italian but Spanish:
Tesis (Thesis) (1996)
Los cronocrimenes (Timecrimes) (2007)
Secuestrados (Kidnapped) (2010)
and the [Rec] series

Thanks guys I appreciate the suggestions!

@BrunoMattei is the expert on Italian movies. I know some good silent German films if you're interesting in that.

Yeah if you have some suggestions I'll definitely note them down, I've never seen any silent films tbh.

 

[Vampirella]

Yeah if you have some suggestions I'll definitely note them down, I've never seen any silent films tbh.

Nosferatu (1922) is a classic but it's really Dracula under another name. Really good shots though.
Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919) May be one of the oldest films to have the twist of unreliable narrator
The Golem and How he came in to the world (1920) is actually a prequel to The Golem (1915) and The Golem and the Dancing Girl, a comedy film (1917 I think). So it's seen as one of the first horror trilogies, sadly only the The Golem and How he came in to the World is intact, the other two movies lost and destroyed in the second world war. There are rumors that parts or full copies of both films are in the hands of collectors some where.
Genuine: The Tale of a Vampire (1920) has a some fun sets

For other films you can look to Hammer films from the 60s and 70s. Yeah you have the classic Christopher Lee Dracula films but they have a lot of them that are interesting.
Curse of the Werewolf (1961) is the only werewolf movie I've seen that uses something other then a gypsy curse or a bite to turn someone in to a werewolf. It gets the werewolf curse from the folklore that if you you're born on Christmas you can become a werewolf.

Hammer has a lot of movies worth checking out, some good some bad, but fun.

 

[Calandrino]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

Suspiria and The Beyond. I would put those at the top of the list.

 

[SnurgleDirge]

Nosferatu (1922) is a classic but it's really Dracula under another name. Really good shots though.
Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919) May be one of the oldest films to have the twist of unreliable narrator
The Golem and How he came in to the world (1920) is actually a prequel to The Golem (1915) and The Golem and the Dancing Girl, a comedy film (1917 I think). So it's seen as one of the first horror trilogies, sadly only the The Golem and How he came in to the World is intact, the other two movies lost and destroyed in the second world war. There are rumors that parts or full copies of both films are in the hands of collectors some where.
Genuine: The Tale of a Vampire (1920) has a some fun sets

For other films you can look to Hammer films from the 60s and 70s. Yeah you have the classic Christopher Lee Dracula films but they have a lot of them that are interesting.
Curse of the Werewolf (1961) is the only werewolf movie I've seen that uses something other then a gypsy curse or a bite to turn someone in to a werewolf. It gets the werewolf curse from the folklore that if you you're born on Christmas you can become a werewolf.

Hammer has a lot of movies worth checking out, some good some bad, but fun.

Suspiria and The Beyond. I would put those at the top of the list.

Cheers for the suggestions fellas I'll add them to the list

 

[Iron Father]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I feel like I need to mix up my watching habits a bit does anyone have any Italian (or other european) Horror film recommendations? I've dipped my toes and watched Zombi 2 and City of the Living Dead, which I liked, but nothing else. Would really appreciate any input so I can put a good list together.

You're like a simpleton going up to Archimedes and asking him to teach you math. I can only go over so much. I can only go over it by sub-genre and accepted truths:

Accepted truth: the premier directors are Argento, Fulci and Mario Bava. Most of their filmographies are littered with diamonds excluding the 90's efforts of Argento and Fulci. The only other director as consistently good as them is Michele Soavi.

After that then you have best sub-genre's:

Giallo:

The Perfume of the Lady in Black, What Have you Done to Solange, My Dear Killer, All the Colors of the Dark, Short Night of Glass Dolls, Torso, Autopsy, and for sleaze you have shit like Giallo in Venice and The Killer is Still Among Us.

Zombie movies: everything by Fulci sans Zombi 3. Then there's Cemetery Man and Let Sleeping Corpses Lie which was produced by Italians but directed by a Spanish director. And of course Demons but probably a good idea to skip Demons 2. Everything else is bad but very entertainingly bad. For example:

Cannibal movies: the Ruggero Deodato cannibal trilogy with Last Cannibal World AKA Jungle Holocaust, Cannibal Holocaust and to a lesser extent Cut and Run are peak for the genre. After there's the Lenzi trilogy with Cannibal Ferox being the best one. I'd also recommend Mountain of the Cannibal God and Massacre in Dinosaur Valley.

After that I can only think of individual titles off the top of my head:

Anthropophagus (very fun cannibal slasher that massively delivers in the 3rd act where the killer eats a stillborn fetus), Macabre, Beyond the Darkness, Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals if you're in the mood for sleaze, Hitch Hike, Night Train Murders (Eyetalian Last House on the Left knockoff that's better than the movie it's ripping off), Flavia: the Heretic, Contamination (Alien ripoff where bodies explode and an epic Goblin Soundtrack), Wild Beasts (the Eyetalians make one of the most insane animal attack movies ever made), Killer Nun, Spider Labyrinth, Werewolf Woman, Nightmare Castle if you're looking for a gothic horror not made by Mario Bava, and Night of the Devils comes recommended if you like vampire flicks.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

The Terrifier 3 teaser came out. I'm really not a fan, but there it is.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

You're like a simpleton going up to Archimedes and asking him to teach you math

Much more like a dweeb virgin walking up to ron jeremy asking him about girls getting plowed by horse dicks, tbh