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I'll admit, I have a hate boner for him, but there's a few examples I have.

He's a fucking shill. The best example I have of this is Spiral. Spiral fucking sucks. We can all agree. Before he did the kill count on it, he declared spiral was one of the best and that it wasn't political. Yeah, sure.

He also takes any chance he can to praise a movie for featuring minorities or women and will give a shitty movie the sloppiest of a blowjob, just for this.

I'm tired of him getting political, taking shots at republicans, demanding people get the vaccine, shilling the census and what not.

He facilitates this attitude about horror that I can only describe as "You can rip someone to death with a hatchet, but you can't be rude. " I remember in I think it was the terrifier, he shits on it for being mean spirited. Yes, the evil killer clown is going to be mean spirited.

And finally is how he coddles his audience. This speaks for itself with how he talks to them as if he's their fucking internet daddy.
My only exposure to the people behind Kill Count is their guest appearances in series of short films that the band, Ice Nine Kills, has been doing on several music videos from their latest album. As someone who enjoys dad jokes, I found their pun one-liners cringy.
 
My only exposure to the people behind Kill Count is their guest appearances in series of short films that the band, Ice Nine Kills, has been doing on several music videos from their latest album. As someone who enjoys dad jokes, I found their pun one-liners cringy.
That band sucks.
 
Spending time again with Bava's Planet of the Vampires, pulpy space exploration that takes a bad turn in a area of the cosmos where only madness and horror await. The vividly realized landscapes of evil-looking crags, strange fog, and gnarled alien carcasses still are very effective at generating an otherworldly atmosphere sixty-years later.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yzbEfsCNpis
I watched that the other day. One of Bava's better looking films imo (and that's saying a lot). You can really see how it could have influenced Alien, whether or not it did. The plot at times feels like a horror tinged episode of Star Trek, but it's Bava's visual style that sets it apart, especially down on the planet.

One thing I couldn't help but notice is how wide open the ship sets are. A ton of floor space and high ceilings. These are supposed to be small transport ships, not large cruisers. Obviously the interiors were just shot on a soundstage somewhere, but it made me chuckle a bit in any case.
 
The scene of the little girl that didn’t have a “random blessing on her given while in the womb that gets revealed literal last minute” being dragged down to hell while crying seemed incredibly unnecessary.

I think the most baffling thing about it is the shameless racism. Literally nigger magic > christian faith and white dad is a coward, while black father is stunning and brave. Every scene the white people family is in, they are either scared and irrational or cowering behind a wall, while the strong and independent single black father is always active and can literally survive a headbutt that sends him flying across the room.

The kill count just announced that the next kill count is gonna be on a fucking tf2 machinima. I really hate James and I cannot express this enough. If I had the resources, I'd slap his belly until it bleeds for the damage he causes to the horror community.

Just so everyone knows, his videos are technically not protected by fair use. They are, quite literally, summaries of the movies he covers and technically a replacement in the eyes of his audience. If you skim through any of the comment sections in his videos, many people claim that they would rather watch his videos than watching the actual movies.
 

Jeff Burr, ‘Texas Chainsaw Massacre III’ Director, Dies at 60​

Jeff Burr, director of “Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III,” “From a Whisper to a Scream” and “Straight Into Darkness,” has died. He was 60.

Director-writer Jim Wynorski shared the news of Burr’s death on Facebook, writing that he “passed away last night [Oct. 10] in his sleep.”

Burr helmed New Line’s “Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III,” starring former pro wrestler R.A. Mihailoff as the villain in the 1990 installment. He later directed several entries in the “Pumpkinhead” and “Puppet Master” franchises, including “Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings” (1993), “Puppet Master 4” (1993), “Puppet Master 5” (1995) and “Puppet Master: Blitzkrief Massacre” (2018).

Burr was born in Aurora, Ohio, on July 18, 1963, and grew up in Dalton, Ga. He attended USC, but dropped out after his third year alongside fellow director Kevin Meyer to finish their American civil war short “Divided We Fall.” His feature-length directorial debut was 1987’s “From a Whisper to a Scream,” starring Vincent Price, Clu Gulager and Terry Kiser. The anthology horror film was one of Price’s last movies.



Outside of the horror genre, Burr directed “Eddie Presley,” a 1992 film about an Elvis impersonator featuring Duane Whitaker in the title role, and the 2004 World War II drama “Straight Into Darkness.” Additional film credits include “Stepfather II: Make Room for Daddy” (1989), “Night of the Scarecrow” (1995), “Johnny Mysto: Boy Wizard” (1997), “Spoiler” (1998), “The Werewolf Reborn!” (1998), “Gun of the Black Sun” (2011) and “Tales of the Fantastic” (2023).

Burr also worked on episodes of Sid and Marty Krofft’s “Land of the Lost” in 1992 and “BeetleBorgs” in 1996.

 
RIP, But TCMIII is probably one of the most disappointing horror sequels ever made. It's like they were trying to follow up on the success of TCMII, but without understanding anything about what made that movie work? Even that seems like a stretch (no pun intended). I don't really know what they were trying to do. Bore the audience into freight? I've heard that it was butchered by the MPAA, but I'm not sure I believe that. It's hard to tell what exactly is missing, plus it was released in 1990. If they were getting serious static from the MPAA they should have just released it unrated.

Maybe I'll give it another shot in this guy's honor, but I am interested in this From a Whisper to a Scream movie. That looks like something more up my alley.
 
The kill count just announced that the next kill count is gonna be on a fucking tf2 machinima. I really hate James and I cannot express this enough. If I had the resources, I'd slap his belly until it bleeds for the damage he causes to the horror community.
He's doing that out of support for the writers strike. He did a Kill Count on Mortal Kombat 9, for example.
 
Jeff Burr, ‘Texas Chainsaw Massacre III’ Director, Dies at 60
Interesting work horse director. The guy sold out but he tried to bring something to most of the films he worked on. Usually a weird sex pervert undercurrent for some reason. Such as there's a scene in Puppet Master 4 (or part 5) where the psychic girl is drilled in the head very sexually while in the bathtub by Tunneler.

And I like his TCM 3. A lot of BTS shit went down with that one and I always re-post this great Chas Balun article on the subject:

I still enjoy it as a solid horror sequel. The workprint or fan-edits using that is the only way to go with it. Big difference in the workprint is that there's some alternate scenes, Viggo Mortensen's character survived being torched only to fall victim to one of the family's traps, the scene where the female survivor is chainsawed in the cunt in a very brief 2 second shot but I give them credit for even doing that. The intention with part 3 was to make a more "pure" sequel in tone with the first. The director even wanted to shoot on 8MM and 16MM to capture that look of the original but almost every step of the way the guy was shut down by the studio. He was literally the very final guy on their list of directors and the was the only one to say yes.
 

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I have weird and embarrassing gaps in my movie knowledge, and having not seen Re-Animator (1985) until last night was one of them.

Is there any remaining reason to discuss this classic? Jeffery Combs and Barbara Crampton are far and away the best things about this very good horror/comedy. Combs's performance commands your attention any time he's on screen, and Crampton is arguably the best actor in the film... and definitely the most attractive. I usually go through a film's IMDb movie trivia when I finish watching it, and from her commentary-derived comments she seems like one of the coolest scream queens ever. Insanely hot in her prime and totally down for anything the film needs of her.

Not that the rest of the cast is terrible. Bruce Abbott has a thankless role as a (written to be) uninteresting main lead, but Robert Sampson and (especially) David Gale go from stodgy to 11 in their performances in a way that really sells the enjoyable schlockiness of the movie. You have to love it as disgusting as it is.

I like Evil Dead's mix of horror and comedy more, but there are some real laugh-out-loud moments in the film as it gets campier and campier. It's obvious why this one is so loved.

Should I watch Bride of Re-Animator next? (As if I have a choice!)
Bore the audience into freight?
I burst into treats when I read this.
 
Should I watch Bride of Re-Animator next? (As if I have a choice!)
The correct answer is From Beyond. Get ready for that one because that one (IMHO) blows Re-animator right out of the water.

I appreciate Re-Animator but for me Stuart Gordon's true masterpiece is From Beyond. I saw that one with very little foreknowledge and was completely blown away by it.
 
The correct answer is From Beyond. Get ready for that one because that one (IMHO) blows Re-animator right out of the water.

I appreciate Re-Animator but for me Stuart Gordon's true masterpiece is From Beyond. I saw that one with very little foreknowledge and was completely blown away by it.
Should I watch Bride of Re-Animator next? (As if I have a choice!)

I burst into treats when I read this.
Wait, watch Dagon first so you can watch them in increasing insanity, save From Beyond for last. Dagon is probably the least funny/most actual-movie-like of the Gordon ones.

I like Bride a lot, it's got a lot more gore than Re-Animator, but loses some of the Gordon bat-shittery.

Even Beyond Re-Animator is worth a watch, been a while since I've seen it, but from what I remember it was somewhat fun.

But definitely save From Beyond for last, because they'll all pale in comparison (especially if you like Barbara Crampton).
 
I really hated Dagon even though I know it has fans for some reason. I thought it was very embarrassing to watch and it did not go over well at movie night. Another movie produced by Brian Yuzna but also directed that came out around the same time as Dagon and Beyond Re-Animator is Faust: Love of the Damned. That is some glorious OTT schlock and I could kick myself for not renting it back in the day but I think the only video store in town that had a copy had the cut R version.
 
Dagon has a good beginning and a GREAT ending, but yeah the middle 40 minutes is a bit of a drag. The literal 10 minute slapstick chasing the bum in and out of the same house schtick is bizarre, even for Stuart Gordon. I have a feeling it was supposed to be edited down and just never was. I like it because it has some of the most gratuitous nudity and because EVERYONE gets a mutation/tentacle, and it's fun to try and look for them. And because the last 10-15 minutes is pure awesome. But it's definitely the weakest of Gordon and crew's Lovecraft ouvre (unless you're counting Castle Freak, which I don't).
 
Finally getting around to watching Hardware (1990) tonight. Heard a lot of good things about the director, I hope he makes it big in Hollywood some day!

 
Never understood the hype for Dagon. It actually reminds me a bit of Anthropophagous, which is not a compliment.
 
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