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The funniest thing about that movie was that Severin Films put out a cassette tape of Richard Stanley reading the story and then denounced and deleted it once he got metoo'd despite releasing Alejandro Jodorowsky, Roman Polanski and Franco Prosperi films.
The difference is that they actively worked with Stanley. I have a feeling that there was more to it then he just got Metoo'd and that was it. The guys at Severin worked with him for years and got him involved with Theater Bizarre and produced the Island of Dr. Moreau documentary.
 
Yeah I got to agree with @BrunoMattei on The Colour out of Space (although I think we agree on most things, except Eyetalian and micro-budget horror), had a couple of decent mood building pieces, and I give credit to Cage for giving it a shot, but the second half was just a big let down. I think with Lovecraft you have to decide to go completely understated or completely over-the-top, and Colour tried to have it both ways, and wound up mediocre on both fronts. It's been quite a while since I've seen it, but I think with another editing pass, there might be a good movie in there; take out a solid half hour, mostly from the tail end, focus a bit more on the characters' reactions rather than entities or whatever, and you'd have a much better movie.

Also, it's not exactly a horror movie, but I don't have anywhere else appropriate to vent about the biggest piece of shit I've seen in a while: 65. How the fuck do you turn advanced technological society fighting dinosaurs into the boring ass shitfest that this was? Oh, you make the protagonist bland and retarded, you shoe-horn in as many out-of-place niggers as possible in a man vs. nature movie (3), and you put in a bunch of little girl saves the day because the space marine is too weak and stupid bullshit. I will say, they did have a somewhat interesting take on the dinosaurs, making them have traits that you don't usually see in movies; although I'm told by my dino-nerd friends that they got just about everything wrong. There's just a lot of really stupid decisions in the making of this movie.

1. If you're going to make a hyper-realistic movie about going to Earth at a specific time period (65 million years ago, hence the name, so clever it's dumb), then you should fucking get everything right about the dinosaurs and flora of the time. Otherwise, just set it on a different planet, and you can do whatever you want. It's not like literally anyone went to see this movie because they were specifically interested in a human-like alien fighting Earth's (and only Earth's) dinosaurs. And if they did, they came away disappointed.

2. You have a man vs. nature scenario. There's lots of these, they don't have a lot of dialogue, because the guy is by himself, and you want to focus on his isolation. So we give him a partner, in this case, a little girl. Ok, now we have a Lone Wolf and Cub scenario, also perfectly cromulent; except let's hamstring ourselves by making them unable to communicate, because they speak different languages! And like they can't communicate AT ALL. Like we, regular humans right now are almost at the point where we can use a cell phone to overcome almost any language barrier on the planet. And these guys have space travel. And they don't even know like a few phrases from each other's languages. It's just pointless and makes your movie more muddled and much less interesting. Also, not going ot lie, when he finds the little girl, I swear to christ she looked so much like a caveman I thought they were going to make it where she was the progenitor of humankind or something (even though that'd be like 63MY off). Maybe don't put a kid with a pronounced brow ridge and troglodytic features just randomly in your dinosaur movie.

3. What's the point of making them aliens if they're just going to be essentially humans plus a few decades of technology. Other than the spaceship, they have a gun that's slightly better than anything you can get now, some grenades that are smaller than anything you can get now, and an area scanner/imager/motion detector that's slightly better than you can get now (and all combined into one thing). Well that just sounds like humans in 20 or 30 years (except the gun, which I can't tell if it shoots something like BBs or energy/compressed air; but whatever it does, its only advantage over current equivalent weapons is it is lighter, more wieldy, and doesn't need reloading (unless my BB theory is right)). Like if you're just going to give them human shit, then just make them humans. Although I guess that would involve time travel, which would make your movie waaaaay too much like Dinosaur the ride from Disney World.

4. They arrive 65 million years ago, but also literally the day before the meteor that kills all the dinosaurs. Hurr, I get it, the meteors and its accompanying trash ware what knocked them off course. Maybe don't steal your plot from the Dinosaur ride at Disney World.

Anyway it sucked, don't watch it, even if you're drinking. 0/5 stars, pile of shit and a waste of a good premise.

Sperg over. For now.
 
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Yeah I got to agree with @BrunoMattei on The Colour out of Space (although I think we agree on most things, except Eyetalian and micro-budget horror), had a couple of decent mood building pieces, and I give credit to Cage for giving it a shot, but the second half was just a big let down. I think with Lovecraft you have to decide to go completely understated or completely over-the-top, and Colour tried to have it both ways, and wound up mediocre on both fronts. It's been quite a while since I've seen it, but I think with another editing pass, there might be a good movie in there; take out a solid half hour, mostly from the tail end, focus a bit more on the characters' reactions rather than entities or whatever, and you'd have a much better movie.
I would recommend the director's previous film Dust Devil which was a much better film.

It's funny that the documentary on his experience on Dr. Moreau (Lost Soul: the Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau) unintentionally revealed that the guy was just in over his head. When you're making a studio movie you can't freak out, not get your shots done and refuse to come down from a tree. It doesn't work that way when you take their money. Even if Val Kilmer was a mega asshole.
 
I guess I'm gonna have to rewatch Colour Out of Space to see if my opinion can change. I actually have not seen Dust Devil as of yet, so I'll watch that too. I only remembered that I loved Colour Out of Space when it was new.
 
My favorite anecdote about Richard Stanley is how he was going into a meeting with a bunch of New Line execs and they were serving coffee. When asked how many sugars he wanted, Stanley replied three or four. Robert Shaye claims that was the moment he knew they were gonna have a problem with this guy. Nobody asks for three or four sugars in a single cup of coffee.
 
I would recommend the director's previous film Dust Devil which was a much better film.

It's funny that the documentary on his experience on Dr. Moreau (Lost Soul: the Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau) unintentionally revealed that the guy was just in over his head. When you're making a studio movie you can't freak out, not get your shots done and refuse to come down from a tree. It doesn't work that way when you take their money. Even if Val Kilmer was a mega asshole.
I will check it out. It's funny, I've seen The Island of Dr. Moreau and the documentary (and the 70s version), and Hardware (I think I've seen Lemmy's entire filmography), but Richard Stanley just never crossed my conscience as a film-maker. Although, to be fair, he's not exactly prolific or notorious, except for the Moreau thing.
 
Recent watches, the totally batty "The Guardian" directed by William Friedkin. Originally entitled "The Babysitter", it was going to be a Sam Raimi helmed thriller with no supernatural elements, but he dropped out to direct "Darkman". The Friedkin film was based on a novel I've actually read entitled "The Nanny" by Dan Greenburg, which is all about a nanny with impeccable references who, shall we say, thrives, or rather feeds on the pure, unconditional love of the infants in her care, and their families. For some reason in the film she's depicted as a dryad or something that engages in pagan tree spirit worship. It's an odd duck of a film, Friedkin directing like he's doing Fulci doing Raimi. Like I said, it's batty.

 
Recent watches, the totally batty "The Guardian" directed by William Friedkin. Originally entitled "The Babysitter", it was going to be a Sam Raimi helmed thriller with no supernatural elements, but he dropped out to direct "Darkman". The Friedkin film was based on a novel I've actually read entitled "The Nanny" by Dan Greenburg, which is all about a nanny with impeccable references who, shall we say, thrives, or rather feeds on the pure, unconditional love of the infants in her care, and their families. For some reason in the film she's depicted as a dryad or something that engages in pagan tree spirit worship. It's an odd duck of a film, Friedkin directing like he's doing Fulci doing Raimi. Like I said, it's batty.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4jnXa0iEbHA
I've actually wondered what Raimi's vision of this movie could've been like before he dropped out and moved on to direct Darkman.
 
I didn’t think I’d be excited about another Saw movie like I am right now... I was really worried about how they would try to revive the franchise. Problem is/was that that Jigsaw is simply gone, and any movie without him is doomed to fail. After 4-5-6-7 exploited as much story as they could as far as the ramifications of their death, after the death of his wife, his associates etc… it felt pretty fucking shit. Jigsaw was actually… alright. Not the greatest, but it worked because it was a secret prequel. Spiral was absolute shit because they tried to move past Tobin Bell and he’s still the heart of this series.

So, basically going ‘Oh yeah, that movie happened inbetween a couple of movies in another country, that’s why it was never mentioned in the main timeline’ is brilliant. We can now have a series of movies with Jigsaw going around the world and murdering people in traps because they fucked something up. Jigsaw terrorizes a ship’s crew (and the ship sinks, leaving no trace of the traps) after they fuck up the buffet and gave him the shits. He makes trap all over Acapulco, and it gets blamed on the cartels. We get a Hostel crossover. Just a Globe-trotting Jigsaw going around and murdering people in exotic locales.

Also pretty excited about Talk To Me, might go see it this weekend, all the reviews I’ve seen so far have been stellar and apparently it’s way gorier than it let on
 
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Also pretty excited about Talk To Me, might go see it this weekend, all the reviews I’ve seen so far have been stellar and apparently it’s way gorier than it let on
The trailer looked pretty good, and the reviews are making me somewhat optimistic. The lead just seems atrocious, though. I haven't seen her in anything except the trailer, she just seems like one of those annoying as shit modern horror trope-chicks that I immediately want to get killed, who of course never does.

That and Miranda Otto is super depressing to look at now. Not quite Sherilyn Fenn bad, but in the same ballpark. At least not the horror show that is Helen Hunt, though.
 
I didn’t think I’d be excited about another Saw movie like I am right now... I was really worried about how they would try to revive the franchise. Problem is/was that that Jigsaw is simply gone, and any movie without him is doomed to fail. After 4-5-6-7 exploited as much story as they could as far as the ramifications of their death, after the death of his wife, his associates etc… it felt pretty fucking shit. Jigsaw was actually… alright. Not the greatest, but it worked because it was a secret prequel. Spiral was absolute shit because they tried to move past Tobin Bell and he’s still the heart of this series.

So, basically going ‘Oh yeah, that movie happened inbetween a couple of movies in another country, that’s why it was never mentioned in the main timeline’ is brilliant. We can now have a series of movies with Jigsaw going around the world and murdering people in traps because they fucked something up. Jigsaw terrorizes a ship’s crew (and the ship sinks, leaving no trace of the traps) after they fuck up the buffet and gave him the shits. He makes trap all over Acapulco, and it gets blamed on the cartels. We get a Hostel crossover. Just a Globe-trotting Jigsaw going around and murdering people in exotic locales.
I always welcome fuck you gory nasty R-rated horror movies as counter programming to PG-13 garbage.
 
I saw Talk To Me on a whim at the weekend and I really liked it. It's well-produced and well-acted, decently creepy, doesn't overstay its welcome or over-explain anything, just leaves you with your own thoughts.

Also, I'm slowly making my way through this thread and I'm finding some great stuff I haven't seen before, so thanks to everyone who's put their 10 cents in :)
 
I watched Talk to Me. Really, very good. 9.5/10. I think we have a new classic on our hands here guys. I refuse to apologize for that pun. It's a Zoomer horror film with bite. Best horror film of the year as of this moment.

So far the 2020's have been a very strong decade for the genre.
 
just chiming in that previous statements about tubi is not bullshit
like there's crap I dimly remember from being a teen (if even that old) that I had to scrounge hard on the bootleg circuit twenty years ago to find but it's just ready to roll free with ads or yt-dl
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just chiming in that previous statements about tubi is not bullshit
like there's crap I dimly remember from being a teen (if even that old) that I had to scrounge hard on the bootleg circuit twenty years ago to find but it's just ready to roll free with ads or yt-dl
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Which one is that? Kind of looks like Video Violence.
 
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