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BrunoMattei said:
Evil Dead Rise.

I liked it. Let's face it: nothing is going to be as amazing as the OT. That's just the way it is. No one can replace Bruce. Bruce is an immortal legend. But, if you look at this as a side-story I think it works fine. I liked it more than remake. Great gore, camerawork, it took some turns that I won't spoil. Only things I didn't care for: some lines from the OT are re-used to varying effect. Our lead chick does say "Come get some." And she just can't deliver the line. Actors were great. Prologue was great but how it ties into everything else is a little weak. How the book is discovered is pure TV Trope plot convenience.

8.5/10 from me. I'd recommend this one.

Incel/anti-SJW/anti-woke shit: the oldest daughter has a feminism poster on the wall in one shot and makes mention of going to an unnamed protest. Some fags might be upset that it's a female lead again but it's honestly the best route to take because if you get a guy as the lead everyone and their mother will compare him to Bruce. And that's unfair to any guy for reasons cited above.
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I agree a little. I'm pretty sure people would complain even more of it was a male protagonist simply because it's not Bruce.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I think we saw two entirely different movies. The female lead being pregnant and being in a wishy washy mood over it and then dealing with demonic possession and protecting her sister's children definitely fits in with it. I'm just going to assume that you went to take a piss during those scenes or were outback smoking crack. Either extreme.

The whole thing with the dad was setup for why they're in this current situation and it does pay off later with the little girl and the mother outside.
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And there was no payoff with them. The entire point of "J" was that he left the family, and Beth was dealing with her own thing too when that he left. That was the starting point of it.

There could be some family conflict before all hell broke loose. Maybe Ellie could be explored more before she turned, making it ambiguous how much of taunts are from the demon or repressed feelings, like she struggled on being a single mother, which is a thing Deadites commonly use to absolutely toy and destroy a person emotionally because nobody can know if its the demon or the real person.
Maybe the family could have a scene on everyone finally snapping from stress and pointing blame tearing each other about the divorce (bonus with again, the deadite adding to it, forcing the trust further apart). But the subplots are just simply there, simply existing.
Hell, the film could end on J just doing whatever in wherever he is, unaware. It could work as one of the many possibilities of a payoffs, a humourous but absolutely dreadful one in dramatic irony. Maybe with a bonus with the 'reborn' deadites of the family aiming at him instead of the blond girl for a really oddly done bookend.

Going back to 2013, Mia’s addiction tied into the story on why they were at the cabin and put an actual reason of everyone didn’t believe there was something wrong when she turned. Rise has story points then abandoned them to make some for some generic blood-filled movie. It even has a page in the book where a baby was bursting out of a woman chestburster-style, which made me think something got cut like I mentioned before.

This is a longer post than I intended, and I know it’s more important to look at films for what they are as opposed to what I’d like them to be in general. But I think the fact of making of all these what-ifs and poking at characters speaks to how sheer okay-ness Rise is in general for missing opportunities they put in their own script. Its decent, not good, but not bad either- but it could gone so very easily above typical and generic horror fare and into having actual Evil Dead insanity, if its just... uses them and didn't hold back.
 
I am just utterly uninterested in Rise and I'd consider myself a big Evil Dead fan. I think I've posted before I hated the remake and generally just didn't have faith in a current year adaptation. I totally understand that Bruce Campbell is too old and that they can tell ED stories with other characters, or actually find a decent recast for Ash (I can see Henry Cavill in the role easily) but it's really the culture of current media that makes new entries unfeasible to me. Glad you guys enjoyed it but I'm going to skip it.
 
A Rastafarian Skeleton said:
I recently watched a good zombie movie called Dead Air on Tubi. It stars Bill Mosley as a talk radio host during a zombie outbreak in the city. I mainly enjoyed it because Bill Mosley rules.
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On the subject of films on Tubi that star Bill Mosley, Rob Zombie should have let The Devil's Rejects be the definite finale for the Firefly family instead of releasing 3 from Hell over a decade later. It was bad enough that so much time had passed that Sig Haig's health issues resulted in the script being rewritten to introduce a new family member to take his character's place (since Captain Spaulding was the best parts of Rejects and its predecessor, House of 1000 Corpses). Hell feels like a repeat of Rejects, right down to the hostage scene in the first half and an antagonist out for revenge in the second half. House and Rejects just fit as a duology and I respect how Zombie made them different from one another.
 
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Watched The Pope's Exocrist and Beau is Afraid. Lets start with Pope. holy shit, I doubt anyone was expecting how batshit ridiculous the climax would be. It gets points for actually committing demons will throw everything and the kitchen sink at you. Despite that, the whole movie is a slog despite having a sense of urgency. There is no "we should get a third opinion", the possessed kid is on a a day countdown before the demon consumes his flesh.

Beau is Afraid. I'm not really sure how to think and rate of this one. Its not the kind of "deep" thinking or "wtf did i just watch" mulling over, but how weirdly normal is other than the penis monster. The 3-hour runtime sucks though. The Strange Thing about the Johnsons is much better, even by the same creator.
 
There's two upcoming ones that are looking good:

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Concept is pretty decent. I'll give it a chance.

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The Blackening (2023) Official Trailer - Grace Byers, Jermaine Fowler, Melvin Gregg, X Mayo

#TheBlackening – Only in theaters June 16, 2023. Starring Grace Byers, Jermaine Fowler, Melvin Gregg, X Mayo, Dewayne Perkins, Antoinette Robertson, Sinqua W...
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I rolled my eyes really fucking hard when I saw this trailer in the theater at first but it started growing on me. There's the possibility of all the good jokes being in the trailer of course but it could be a good horror comedy playing with racial tropes.
 
Quotes are busted for me so:

Evil Dead Rise is something I'll look at for sure, if only because the premise keeps giving me flashbacks to Demons (apartment building, not movie theater) for whatever fucking reason. I wasn't crazy about the reboot--it wasn't awful but I didn't love it. Still, I'm a sucker for the franchise, so fuck it, I know I'll watch and also I trust Bruno's taste.

"Beth's
subplot pregnancy didn't really go anywhere. (The husband they kept bringing up didn't go anywhere either). For a motherhood theme, its like its forgotten halfway through the movie. Could had an unwanted pregnancy with a parasitic demon possession? I don't know, I'm just disappointed that any subplots in the movie didn't lead up to anything other than the obvious foreshadowing ones which spoil the whole plot like the woodchipper sitting in the parking lot, which removes the tension since you know people will get down there.
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In re: the above; can faggots in the thread stop being faggots and spoiler some of this shit, or at least think about how you word it? The movie isn't that fucking old and some of us have shitty things like jobs. Thank you to the selfsame faggot for spoiling the shit about Beau is Afraid. It is greatly appreciated, because I'm seeing it tomorrow afaik.

3 From Hell was so incredibly bad that I felt like I was losing my mind. There was a movie a while back called #horror, and 3 reminded me of that same film for some fucking reason. Pretentious camerawork or something.

Tubi is busting out with some great movies for free right now. It's a lot of fun and I hope everyone gets a chance to check it out.

Did anyone here take a look at Heck, which the director of Skinamarink says was proof of concept? I was surprised--well, maybe not--to see that it was basically the same film. I actually rewatched Skinamarink the other night to see what the subtitles said, and while part of me wishes that the movie was a brisk eighty minutes, I'm not sure it would work as well if it were a brisk eighty minutes. Heck is frightening, but those endless shots of the ceiling in Skinamarink made me feel panicky at some points.
 
I love Evil Dead 1 & 2. I think Army of Darkness is alright. I have zero interest in anything else Evil Dead related.
beef lo mein said:
3 From Hell was so incredibly bad that I felt like I was losing my mind.
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There was one sequence, the action scene set to In-a-gadda-da-vida, that I thought was really well done. Everything else about that movie was a total waste. I was expecting pretty much nothing from it and I still managed to be let down.
 
Lunar Eclipse Paradox said:
Just watched MDPOPE 1 and the contrast between Snuff/Porn compilations and Actual movies with gory special effects become clear. I absolutely admired films such Cannibal Holocaust, Ichi the Killer, Oldboy, Orozco the Embalmer, Pink Flamingos and Irreversible. But I literally hated almost every single video in the MDPOPE compilation. One animal cruelty clip actually had me crying a little, clips of animal cruelty are so deplorable, and there were so much pornographic clips of genital mutilation and shit eating and I nearly vomited at one of them. They were all extremely pointless. But I truly get the concept of MDPOPE. It's meant to show the horrific nihilistic underbelly of humanity and it has succeeded in getting me to question humanity as a whole. Honestly, when watching the compilation, the most anticipated part for me was basically the end. I was literally furious seeing people mutilating themselves. They're sick fucks.
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99% of Gore compilations to me do not count as films. I count shit like faces of death as films because, despite being gore compilations, they have a purpose or point. Shit like MDPOPE is just "TRY NOT TO BARF" challenges disguised as videos.
 
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I saw the trailer for this and I couldn't get over the fact that one of the actors looks way too much like Bobby Burns.

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Commander X said:
I actually liked Heck and the other shorts, but Skinamarink felt like a student film padded out to feature length. I appreciate the basic concept, and some of the scenes but it felt like it was stretched out a little too long.
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Skinnamarink feels like the antithesis of my usual criticism, being that horror movies are too often about some diluted experience of a bunch of nobodies that never really involves the audience.

In that movie there were no characters or storyline, and we're a bit too involved staring at still shots of a house, which if you're not 120% invested, becomes a laughable/boring experience.

I'm thankful on some level for this wake-up call that demands a bit more nuance, because going 180 from "stupid family gets tortured by a ghost" is also not ideal.
 
Shek$il said:
Skinnamarink feels like the antithesis of my usual criticism, being that horror movies are too often about some diluted experience of a bunch of nobodies that never really involves the audience.

In that movie there were no characters or storyline, and we're a bit too involved staring at still shots of a house, which if you're not 120% invested, becomes a laughable/boring experience.

I'm thankful on some level for this wake-up call that demands a bit more nuance, because going 180 from "stupid family gets tortured by a ghost" is also not ideal.
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I have nothing more to add but that was a legitimate Thunk rate and not a post-ironic kind of Thunk rate.

Just recently I had a thought that James Cameron must have been aware of the famous cocoon scene in Alien. The cocoon scene, while amazing, contradicts the whole idea of a Queen and an insect hierarchy in Aliens BUT, key thing to keep in mind: the cocoon scene is the first time someone say's "Kill me!" in an Alien movie. It's a recurring line through all 4 movies including sadly Resurrection. I need to re-watch Prometheus and Covenant to spot the line but I think it's there.

Why is this important? Because the line is said in Aliens when the marines enter the hive "Look out we got a live one!" So, either during pre-production or during production Cameron was made aware of the cocoon scene and reincorporated the line as either an homage or maybe he just thought it sounded good? Who knows if he actually watched the scene that had yet to be played anywhere outside the studio or he just read the script.
 
It's worth a laugh that the new "cabin in the woods" in Evil Dead Rise is the most obviously cursed looking dwelling you could see.
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"From" Season 2 debuted just now, healthy seeds on the bay of pirates.

Learned a decent bit about the monsters and the "setup", so pretty good start and very little filler. Seems like they're going to do a lot this season instead of dragging this out? Hopefully.

The monsters sleep underground like drunk hobos in their true form but wearing their human costumes covered in filth that magically becomes pristine when they come out at night. Also the Matthews home magically collapses on itself, heavily implied by a higher, omnipotent power in retribution towards the radio signal attempt.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I think that was an homage to the church of the cult leader in Mandy.
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I think every horror director is the first one ever to find that amazing house shape.

Also I don't think "Kill me" was in Prometheus or Covenant. I just re-watched them the other day and didn't notice that in there at all (or even a scene where it would be appropriate). Everything is SOOO retardedly fast (the gestation period, the movement of the morphs, the times between realization and death), that I don't think anyone has a chance to. That's probably a really good catch, and a big reason why those movies sucked so much, there's literally no time for actual horror or "kill me" moments, because as soon as anything happens, whomever it happens to is dead in seconds (final girls notwithstanding, of course).
 
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