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The Cunting Death said:
he deliberately doesn't watch older shit because he thinks there's no need to since most films post 1970 are technically superior and old films don't have much value except for their historical significance.

Which is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard in my life. I watch something like Passion of Joan of Arc because of Maria Falconetti's fantastic performance, a performance I have never seen topped ever and I don't think will ever be topped, and that film is nearly 100 years old.

I watch German Expressionist films from the 1920s because they have such a unique set design and way of acting that very few films after that movement have ever utilized.

You can still get alot out of older films.
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Pre 70s?, if you look at his imdb, more like pre 90s movie, and still not many movies he has watched from the 90s.
 
Calandrino said:
I feel the same way. To me it even feels a little weird to count Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a slasher. It's like calling King Kong a kaiju movie and throwing it in with the likes of Godzilla vs Megalon. People say Terminator is really a slasher, Psycho is really a slasher, etc... there are enough cheesy flicks built straight off the Halloween/Friday the 13th formula with zero deviation to make up their own genre.

Past the big names it's hard to pick favorites. It's like picking a favorite episode of Scooby-Doo: sure they're all entertaining if you're 13 or drunk or both, but which ones stand out? Usually I'm doing good to remember one distinctive thing and associate it with a title. Initiation is "the one with Princess Vespa". Demon is "the one where the final girl is topless the whole finale". Final Exam is "the one where frat boys fake a mass shooting as a prank". Possession: Until Death Do You Part is "the one with the male strippers".

(I think Possession is still VHS-only and virtually forgotten. It doesn't even have a note on the wikipedia "Possession" disambiguation page, let alone an article. How do you make a slasher that nobody will want to watch despite having lots boobs and blood? Just add a nice, long, LONG scene at a male strip club, with gratuitous footage of muscley dudes dancing in their jock straps. AWKWARD.)

Slaughter High is the one with: the cool jester mask, the creepy abandoned school, the goofy twist ending, and the actor who killed himself irl shortly after making it. It's one of my favorite C-tier 80s movies but I can't really give it an unqualified recommendation to anybody with actual standards. I guess you had to be there.
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Oh shit I forgot about the actor killing himself.
 
BrunoMattei said:
The dude had depression but his mother told the directors that he was excited to do the movie and was happy to do it. So the movie didn't have anything to do with his depression and suicide.
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That's good to know. Well not him having depression. But him having a good time doing the movie and happy to do it.

At least he did something fun even if he had depression hopefully the movie gave him some sort of joy as brief as it was.
 
Calandrino said:
I feel the same way. To me it even feels a little weird to count Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a slasher. It's like calling King Kong a kaiju movie and throwing it in with the likes of Godzilla vs Megalon. People say Terminator is really a slasher, Psycho is really a slasher, etc... there are enough cheesy flicks built straight off the Halloween/Friday the 13th formula with zero deviation to make up their own genre.
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Some of those 1940's Mummy movies like 'The Mummys Tomb', 'The Mummys Ghost', etc. have scenes where the Mummy slowly walks after someone then kills them, not too far off from shit you'd see in every Friday the 13th sequel, they are even structured similar - monster comes to life, kills people/body count, is defeated at end. rinse and repeat.

So if people want to be annoying about it you can always pull influences back further and further, in general I think Black Christmas/Halloween are good sign-posts for the first 'slasher' movies with Halloween as the quintessential "this is what a slasher movie is". While earlier films have elements of it saying Psycho, Peeping Tom, or even Texas Chainsaw Massacre are 'slasher' movies always seems off to me but to each their own.
 
I said this in the main rec thread too, but The Devil's Hour on Amazon is definitely worth a watch. It's more horror adjacent than horror, really, but I'd put episodes 3-5 up against anything in the shit-ass cabinet of curiosities or even the 'good' Masters of Horror episodes. It is somewhat good at keeping you guessing whether or not it's supernatural, sci-fi or just psychological (at least until the last episode, which, while not great, is kind of necessary - and again, loads better than most garbage out these days). It's much more of a procedural or thriller than horror, but as I'd recently watched del Toro's snooze-fest, I kept comparing them in my head.

Other recent crap...I bailed on Hellraiser after 30 minutes after I decided I didn't even give a shit what happened to anyone in it, as they're all retarded, douchebags or both. I somewhat enjoyed Halloween Kills, especially because of all the goofy chanting parts with Anthony Edwards, but by the end of it, I'd already decided I wasn't going to watch Ends, and it appears I made the right decision.

And a couple other recommendations I never see anyone talk about:
Blood Quantum - Zombie movie on an indian reservation. Really surprised this movie doesn't get talked about more. There's a little bit of social commentary bullshit (I mean the bare minimum possible these days), but there's a hell of a lot more just plain good zombie action. Couple of slow parts, but they're actually part of the story, not just extraneous bullshit. Just a solid zombie movie, which is about all you can ask for in non-subtitled movies anymore.

For the Sake of Vicious - Microbudget movie that takes about 9 left turns in it - and they're all good. It's pretty short, so not much of an investment, but everything in it pays off, definitely worth watching.

Bay - (not The Bay or anything) - It's a found footage sea creature/body horror-ish movie. Saw it a while ago, and I just keep remembering how much better it was than I expected it to be. Caveat emptor though: if you think the lead actress is hot, do NOT look up any current pictures.
 
The Cunting Death said:
Which is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard in my life. I watch something like Passion of Joan of Arc because of Maria Falconetti's fantastic performance, a performance I have never seen topped ever and I don't think will ever be topped, and that film is nearly 100 years old.
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I really ought to get around to seeing that... the director, Carl Theodor Dreyer also brought us one of the earliest artsy, surreal, zero-plot horror movies: Vampyr. It came out around the same time as Universal's Dracula and it's a very sharp contrast. Apparently it wasn't well-received in its day, but it's worth a look for anybody who likes that kind of weird old stuff. Just check the running time: it's one of those public domain movies that's everywhere in shitty transfers, and some of them are cut I think, for some reason.

Your Starter for 10 said:
I somewhat enjoyed Halloween Kills, especially because of all the goofy chanting parts with Anthony Edwards, but by the end of it, I'd already decided I wasn't going to watch Ends, and it appears I made the right decision.
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I only got dragged into watching Halloween '18 and Kills recently. H18 is ok by Halloween sequel standards, Kills feels more like a reel of deleted scenes than an actual movie. They both feel like products of their time and the current fashions in the same way H20 does. When the teeming masses finally get sick of fanservice and CGI zombies and Twitter subtext I figure they'll be forgotten, if they haven't been already. Next stop: maybe a young Dr. Loomis prequel TV series? Whatever they think is the most market-proven way to squeeze free money out of the franchise, that's what they'll do.

That JLC soliloquy in Kills, jfc: "Maybe the way Trump has divided us with fear is the true Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers, Producer's Cut." Really makes you think. Gotta love how Michael (probably) survives in Halloween 78's pitch-perfect ending, which was never meant to have a sequel, but when these doofuses KNOW they have a sequel coming they resort to retarded cop-outs and military-grade plot armor to make him live.

I'm morbidly curious about Ends but I don't think I can handle three of these in a row, I need time to recover.
 
BrunoMattei said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XTacwYIYPJQ
This looks fun. It's like Terminator meets Silent Night Deadly Night.
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Holy shit I came into this thread because I have been flitratious with a Girl who likes horror, while I am not a fan of it and thought I might see something we could both enjoy if things go well and holy fucking shit the first page i look at has gold.

I fucking love you guys.
 
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Calandrino said:
I really ought to get around to seeing that... the director, Carl Theodor Dreyer also brought us one of the earliest artsy, surreal, zero-plot horror movies: Vampyr. It came out around the same time as Universal's Dracula and it's a very sharp contrast. Apparently it wasn't well-received in its day, but it's worth a look for anybody who likes that kind of weird old stuff. Just check the running time: it's one of those public domain movies that's everywhere in shitty transfers, and some of them are cut I think, for some reason.


I only got dragged into watching Halloween '18 and Kills recently. H18 is ok by Halloween sequel standards, Kills feels more like a reel of deleted scenes than an actual movie. They both feel like products of their time and the current fashions in the same way H20 does. When the teeming masses finally get sick of fanservice and CGI zombies and Twitter subtext I figure they'll be forgotten, if they haven't been already. Next stop: maybe a young Dr. Loomis prequel TV series? Whatever they think is the most market-proven way to squeeze free money out of the franchise, that's what they'll do.

That JLC soliloquy in Kills, jfc: "Maybe the way Trump has divided us with fear is the true Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers, Producer's Cut." Really makes you think. Gotta love how Michael (probably) survives in Halloween 78's pitch-perfect ending, which was never meant to have a sequel, but when these doofuses KNOW they have a sequel coming they resort to retarded cop-outs and military-grade plot armor to make him live.

I'm morbidly curious about Ends but I don't think I can handle three of these in a row, I need time to recover.
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Ends is basically The Last Jedi of Horror movies, only because it has created so many speds who defend it because "I CLAPPED FOR IT BEIN' DIFFERENT!"
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Ends is basically The Last Jedi of Horror movies, only because it has created so many speds who defend it because "I CLAPPED FOR IT BEIN' DIFFERENT!"
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It's funny how many parallel's there are: there's examples of blatant memberberries, remaking the 1st movie, subverting expectations and not having a clearly defined plan for a trilogy.
 
The Cunting Death said:
he deliberately doesn't watch older shit because he thinks there's no need to since most films post 1970 are technically superior and old films don't have much value except for their historical significance.

Which is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard in my life. I watch something like Passion of Joan of Arc because of Maria Falconetti's fantastic performance, a performance I have never seen topped ever and I don't think will ever be topped, and that film is nearly 100 years old.

I watch German Expressionist films from the 1920s because they have such a unique set design and way of acting that very few films after that movement have ever utilized.

You can still get alot out of older films.
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Whilst it's the kind of thing I don't know enough about to even attempt to review or rate, I found Nosferatu an incredibly creepy film. Although you still get the same basic story beats as many other movies, the way is it shot and structured is just so different from modern films it all adds to the unease. Not to mention the fact everyone involved is long dead, or how different the world was when it was released (3 years before the first public demonstration of a tv) and it feel like something from another planet.
 
urr13 account said:
Some of those 1940's Mummy movies like 'The Mummys Tomb', 'The Mummys Ghost', etc. have scenes where the Mummy slowly walks after someone then kills them, not too far off from shit you'd see in every Friday the 13th sequel, they are even structured similar - monster comes to life, kills people/body count, is defeated at end. rinse and repeat.

So if people want to be annoying about it you can always pull influences back further and further, in general I think Black Christmas/Halloween are good sign-posts for the first 'slasher' movies with Halloween as the quintessential "this is what a slasher movie is". While earlier films have elements of it saying Psycho, Peeping Tom, or even Texas Chainsaw Massacre are 'slasher' movies always seems off to me but to each their own.
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sorta like those weird early ladder matches where it's one of those "prop it against the house" ladder instead of the self standing ones
The Penultimate Warrior said:
Whilst it's the kind of thing I don't know enough about to even attempt to review or rate, I found Nosferatu an incredibly creepy film. Although you still get the same basic story beats as many other movies, the way is it shot and structured is just so different from modern films it all adds to the unease. Not to mention the fact everyone involved is long dead, or how different the world was when it was released (3 years before the first public demonstration of a tv) and it feel like something from another planet.
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iirc it has some of the only footage of an extinct animal because it's just that old
 
I watched Old Man last night, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13456976/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3, thought it was a horror but it wasn't really, Stephen Lang was good in it but the other guy just reminded me of Crispin Glover playing George McFly, it was also really predictable from pretty much the beginning, Stephen Lang is wasted on movies like this.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Ends is basically The Last Jedi of Horror movies, only because it has created so many speds who defend it because "I CLAPPED FOR IT BEIN' DIFFERENT!"
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Maybe I'll be one of those speds. I thought TLJ was better than the other Disney Wars movies... sort of. You have to appreciate the black comedy of burning down the world's most valuable IP. In a way, every Halloween sequel has been TLJ. It's a series tradition for every new Halloween movie to ruin the last one with retcons and dumb plot twists, if not the entire rest of the series so far.

Kills is what a JJ-directed Episode VIII might have been like: another two hours of the last movie that was already an overlong rehash. Actually, H18 was basically trying to do a full movie of the Darth Vader scenes in Rogue One. I didn't like Rogue One and I didn't clap and cheer whenever Michael Myers morbed out tbh.

XYZpdq Jr. said:
iirc it has some of the only footage of an extinct animal because it's just that old
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What, Germans? If you mean the "werewolf", I think it's a striped hyena, which are endangered but thankfully not extinct.
 
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