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Wrong. Nearly everything you said was wrong. Warner Bros. Traded the rights back to Paramount in order to get the rights to Nolan's Interstellar. Paramount had a movie set up but put the kibosh on it when Rings bombed. How you equate F13 with the Ring franchise I don't know but they put it on hold and greenlit Mother! Instead.

Soon after, Warner Bros. Go the rights back but then the lawsuit happened.
But still, an actual Friday the 13th reboot is still in development hell as of time of this post.
 
Wrong. Nearly everything you said was wrong. Warner Bros. Traded the rights back to Paramount in order to get the rights to Nolan's Interstellar. Paramount had a movie set up but put the kibosh on it when Rings bombed. How you equate F13 with the Ring franchise I don't know but they put it on hold and greenlit Mother! Instead.

Soon after, Warner Bros. Go the rights back but then the lawsuit happened.
Think at some point we might get a sequel to Freddy vs Jason? I mean, sure the movie wasn't peak of the either series but that doesn't mean someone couldn't do something with it, if they really tried.
 
Think at some point we might get a sequel to Freddy vs Jason? I mean, sure the movie wasn't peak of the either series but that doesn't mean someone couldn't do something with it, if they really tried.
Oh god I hope not. Recently rewatched that with the wife and it's somehow more awful now than it was in theater.
 
I mean, Warner Bros. Could do that. Establish a horror universe but aside from Freddy, Jason and Annabelle I don't think they own enough properties.

I consider this largely a good thing.
Freddy Vs Jason vs Annabelle. Yeah, that'll get asses on seats.
 
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This film surprised me with being pretty good even with the typical haunted house tropes and a twist you will figure out before it's reveal. It presented a concept that I haven't seen before (an underwater haunted house) and going between POV and traditional shots added to the atmosphere of being trapped underwater as your oxygen level depletes.
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I was really bored a few weeks ago and watched this film on Netflix called In The Shadow Of The Moon. I'm from Philly and it had an interesting premise so I thought it would be good.

Well it was and it wasn't. I think it's more of a sci fi film with some mild but gross body horror. Not fun if massive nosebleeds make you queasy. In fact there's quite a bit of "blood out of every head orifice" stuff going on. The premise of an unstoppable anachronistic serial killer running around with a sonic screwdriver of death is promising. The reveal however, is a huge disappointment.
So at first you have no idea who this woman is and why she keeps appearing every few years without aging or even changing her clothes. Why she always has the same hand wound and it doesn't matter if her dead body is bagged and tagged and put in the ground. She still comes back to kill again.

Now she's capable of kicking the asses of full grown men and seems physically unstoppable despite being fairly scrawny. Something that, along with her anachronistic appearances and unidentifiable isotope weapon would make sense is she were an alien, demon or some other inhuman creature. And for much of the film that's what you think. Because as she explains her existence to hapless officer Thomas Lockheart, it sure as hell seems that she ain't human. She tells him she can come back during certain phases of the moon. This however is not the whole story. And even when he finds that weird pod in a sewer chamber on the beach you still think she isn't human. But of course you wrong. She human. She's just a time traveler. And her reasons for committing these murders is downright sketchy even though you are supposed to believe she's the hero.

Now I could believe her being able to kick Lockheart's ass when he's older and a drunk homeless schizo. Dude can barely walk straight. He's so obsessed with killing this woman that he's just a sad waste of breathe that looks like he could die any second from a stress induced stroke.

But when he and his partner are both young? Come on. No one can outrun her, beat her in a fight or even shoot straight at her. And she's nothing more than a normal human. WTF?

As for why she's committing all these murders? There's this racist 'murrica fuck yeah cult who will truck bomb a building in the near future. This somehow leads to a civil war and millions die. So she's been sent back in time by this crackpot scientist to kill everyone on this lunatic junkie's mailing list. Only these people haven't done anything yet. A few of them were killed like 30 years before this truck bombing even happened. Oddly enough she doesn't kill the lunatic junkie's ex-wife even. Just his mistress. Because the ex-wife was just in it for the drugs.

Crackpot scientist invents the isotope weapon from... something something time traveler stuff. It melts their fucking brains.

And it turns out that the killer is actually Lockheart's granddaughter. And he gives up trying to kill her then and there and goes to the hospital to witness her birth. Whole thing is overly woke and stupid but has a cool start. I was disappoint. Because it didn't seem like this loser junkie and a bunch of people on a mailing list were even a threat to society. But somehow they were because crazy scientist says so.
 
Now that I think about it, there's a rights issue with Freddy Krueger as well.


There was talk of a reboot of Dream Warriors but nothing has materialized. This whole rights issue phenomenon just boils down to the original creators either wanting more money or more control over the IP. Or both obviously. Because they still don't own the international rights so it's not like they can just shop what they own to whatever studio not unless they shop it to someone with deep pockets who doesn't mind not owning the rest of the previously made movies. I'm all for a creator getting paid but sometimes when more people get involved in a big IP you have a Too Many Cooks situation. Just look at the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise.
 
Haven't seen Nope but I did read the synopsis and apparently there are two scenes that freaked a lot of audiences out, the chimp going on a rampage and the alien digesting people one, so now I'm curious. Are they really that bad or is this just another case of people overreacting?
No both scenes where pretty tense, the chimp scene moreso.
 
I mean, Warner Bros. Could do that. Establish a horror universe but aside from Freddy, Jason and Annabelle I don't think they own enough properties.

I consider this largely a good thing.
They also own

The Lost Boys which has a planned reboot
IT
Salem's Lot
Gremlins
Critters
Final Destination
House of Wax
and a few other horror based ips which are mostly single movies

Then got public domain horror they could use such as Dracula, zombies and the mummy to name a few. I agree it's an awful idea but they do have enough properties they could use.

Now that I think about it, there's a rights issue with Freddy Krueger as well.


There was talk of a reboot of Dream Warriors but nothing has materialized. This whole rights issue phenomenon just boils down to the original creators either wanting more money or more control over the IP. Or both obviously. Because they still don't own the international rights so it's not like they can just shop what they own to whatever studio not unless they shop it to someone with deep pockets who doesn't mind not owning the rest of the previously made movies. I'm all for a creator getting paid but sometimes when more people get involved in a big IP you have a Too Many Cooks situation. Just look at the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise.

From what I understand WB still has the rights to outside the US to the ip, so they really can't do anything with each other. With that said last I heard Craven Estate were taking pitches for a movies or something that could be a HBO Max show. Don't see why WB would pass on such a project with how well stuff like the new Halloween, Scream and IT movies did box office wise.
 
From what I understand WB still has the rights to outside the US to the ip, so they really can't do anything with each other. With that said last I heard Craven Estate were taking pitches for a movies or something that could be a HBO Max show. Don't see why WB would pass on such a project with how well stuff like the new Halloween, Scream and IT movies did box office wise.
So, Freddy's Nightmares: good version? I could see it.
 
Which 80's zombie flick is a better embodiment of all things 80's? Return of the Living Dead or Demons? It's ironic that both movies came out the same year. They both have a striking amount of similarities and for once the Eyetalians didn't steal when it came to making Demons:

Both flicks have a somewhat different take on zombie lore.

Both flicks have punks. Although, Return has the punks as our lead characters.

Both flicks have amazing soundtracks. Funnily enough, the Eyetalian flick has the more well known bands on it's soundtrack.

Return has Tonight (we'll make love till we die) during Linnea Quigley's greatest moment.


Demons has White Wedding play while punks snort cocaine and use razor blades to scoop coke off of sad punk titties.


Of course, you could argue that Return has the more "authentic" 80's/punk soundtrack and doesn't "sell out" like the Eyetalians.

Both flicks have a nihilistic ending.

Both flicks have a meta commentary going on referencing other movies and our main characters in both flicks think that the solution to their problems lie in following the lore of the movie within a movie. Return of the Living Dead references Night ("I thought you said if we hit the brains they'd die?" "WELL IT WORKED IN THE MOVIE!") and in Demons our characters think the movie is to blame ("Please stop it! It's the movie!").

Both flicks have one iconic zombie. Return has the Tar Man while Demons has the poster thing:

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It was also used on the poster for the U.S. theatrical and original home video release.

That's all I got (for now). Although Demons does have the better gore it doesn't have the comedy of Return. I think both films are about on par with each other but I think at the end of the day I'd have to vote for Return just because of Linnea Quigley titties while Linnea was in her prime.
 
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