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Product Placement said:
‘Spider-Man’ Director Jon Watts to Produce ‘Final Destination’ Relaunch for New Line, HBO Max

Always felt like a series with miss potential. Outside the 4th one which is awful, I found the rest to just be fine but not stand out in any way.
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These people are incapable of coming up with an original idea. I'm sick of reboots and remakes.
 
GeorgeFloyd said:
These people are incapable of coming up with an original idea. I'm sick of reboots and remakes.
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Horror is one of the few genres where original movies have been doing well at the box office.

But can't think of the last blockbuster that was a hit and not based on something else, between 2010 and 2019 want to say Christopher Nolan was the only one doing movies like that. Everything else was a flop, based on a book/game/tv show, a reboot, remake or sequel.

But rather them do something with Final Destination then see someone try again at rebooting Terminator or Saw.

Also less about them being unable to come up with original ideas than being unwilling to. Studios want that inbuild brand awareness and market.
 
I'm a huge fan of direct to DVD horror movies. This one is one of the best so bad they're good movies of the early 2000s that no one has heard of. It's about a neanderthal beast woman being transported by helicopter that crashes into a mountain next to a ski resort triggering an avalanche and awakening the ancient terror.
Watch it with friends, booze, weed, or all of the above for an even better experience. Really hope the RLM guys find this one day but they seem like they're more into the 80s stuff.
 
I've never been a big fan of horror movies, but I went to watch Scream 5 with some family members, and 30 minutes in, I just walked out the theater.

I can't say it was bad, but I hated every character and didn't care about anything that happened to them.

Edit: Let me just say that I'm a terrible judge of horror movies. The last two acts could have been great for all I know. I just immediately hated every single character in the movie about 15 minutes in, and then tried to last another 15 minutes before I just left.
 
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I finally watched Pandorum on a whim over the course of two nights.

While I wouldn't call it a 10/10, the quality of it surprised me, and I can see why it's become a cult favorite. The cast is good/great. (No surprise that Dennis Quaid steals the show even as he's sitting in a room for 90% of the plot.) The script is very good (especially the solid dialogue) and has a verisimilitude that indicates the writers put a lot of thought into it. The special effects and the general look of the film are impressive for the budget, especially the creature effects. And the premise is brilliant.

Way better than I expected. It sucks we won't get more movies in the proposed trilogy.

I also started The Collector because I love the premise, but I don't think I'll get through it. I'm like 15 minutes in and it's pretty painful.
 
Charles P. Scene said:
Just saw it too. It had its funny moments but overall it was nothing special and like you said, too predictable. Only real complaint is that the killers sucked, couple of fucking nobodies.
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I’ve only seen Scream 4 once, but isn’t the motive of those killers pretty much the same as in this one? Muh fame, muh infamy but with the “toxic fandom” shit instead.
 
Just finished Antlers and was pretty underwhelmed by it, the hype definitely didn't help. Some cool creature scenes and good atmosphere, but felt really formulaic.

It was obvious from the title, but it's still pretty funny that they made Graham Greene (who is Oneida so has no cultural ties to the myth) explain the r/creepypasta Wendigo to the audience with zero regards to the actual myth after the director spouted shit like this.

“Here you have a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant telling a Native American folkloric mythology story,” says Cooper of his approach, adding that the cultural ignorance of his main characters, all of whom are white, was crucial to the story.
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I'm not a cultural appropriation kinda guy and don't expect mythological accuracy in my horror movies, but come on. Don't speak down to me like that while further popularizing the antlered reddit Wendigo. I don't care if you smoked a peace pipe with some Indigenous Studies professor while writing the script, you fundamentally misrepresent the myth and I don't have to be 1/128th Algonquin to know better. I'm just kinda peeved by the hypocrisy I guess.

I heard the short story ("The Quiet Boy") is better, might read it later.

Edit: Listened to the story, it was quite good and pretty different. I'd recommend it, it's only about an hour.
 
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OttoWest said:
I’ve only seen Scream 4 once, but isn’t the motive of those killers pretty much the same as in this one? Muh fame, muh infamy but with the “toxic fandom” shit instead.
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The new movie references the first killers. In case you don't remember or haven't seen the first Scream, Billy's motive was revenge after suffering a psychotic break caused by Sidney's mother fucking up his life. He pressured his wackjob friend into helping him commit the murders in order to fuck up Sidney's life.

If 2022 was based on the 4th I don't think "two losers who met on r/scream were motivated to kill by autism and muh fame" would be so disappointing.
 
Saw the Scream movie, it was mostly meh. Not entirely trash if you wanna see Ghostface stab some people but nothing to really praise. I'd say if I had to pick between it and Halloween Kills I'd kinda side with this one but it's not saying much considering both movies were very weak.

The two killers met on fucking Reddit, that was hilarious. Also I was irked by the hospital scene when Ghostface attacked the injured sister, the hospital was fucking barren which is a peeve of mine in horror movies, barring something supernatural making it happen. Also the killers were basically nobodies, they weren't connected to anyone from the original movie or the sequels so yeah. I'll also add that Dewey getting gutted by the 5 foot tall girl was dumb as fuck, RIP Dewey.
 
Exterminatus said:
Saw the Scream movie, it was mostly meh. Not entirely trash if you wanna see Ghostface stab some people but nothing to really praise. I'd say if I had to pick between it and Halloween Kills I'd kinda side with this one but it's not saying much considering both movies were very weak.

The two killers met on fucking Reddit, that was hilarious. Also I was irked by the hospital scene when Ghostface attacked the injured sister, the hospital was fucking barren which is a peeve of mine in horror movies, barring something supernatural making it happen. Also the killers were basically nobodies, they weren't connected to anyone from the original movie or the sequels so yeah. I'll also add that Dewey getting gutted by the 5 foot tall girl was dumb as fuck, RIP Dewey.
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Watch that fan-edit I linked that combines Halloween 2018 with Kills.
 
frozenrunner said:
I finally watched Pandorum on a whim over the course of two nights.

While I wouldn't call it a 10/10, the quality of it surprised me, and I can see why it's become a cult favorite. The cast is good/great. (No surprise that Dennis Quaid steals the show even as he's sitting in a room for 90% of the plot.) The script is very good (especially the solid dialogue) and has a verisimilitude that indicates the writers put a lot of thought into it. The special effects and the general look of the film are impressive for the budget, especially the creature effects. And the premise is brilliant.

Way better than I expected. It sucks we won't get more movies in the proposed trilogy.

I also started The Collector because I love the premise, but I don't think I'll get through it. I'm like 15 minutes in and it's pretty painful.
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When I first tried to watch that I had a tv with power saving auto screen darkening that couldn't be switched off. Made the film completely unwatchable as it would activate for half the scenes. A good film now I can mostly see what's going on, although it works fine as self contained without any sequels.
 
Charles P. Scene said:
The new movie references the first killers. In case you don't remember or haven't seen the first Scream, Billy's motive was revenge after suffering a psychotic break caused by Sidney's mother fucking up his life. He pressured his wackjob friend into helping him commit the murders in order to fuck up Sidney's life.

If 2022 was based on the 4th I don't think "two losers who met on r/scream were motivated to kill by autism and muh fame" would be so disappointing.
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I rolled my eyes so hard when they actually went the “toxic fans” route. Even weirder when they also had the entitled fans make good points about the state of Hollywood.

Other than that bit of lameness, it was a pretty meh movie. Outside of some cool kills, not sure why they felt the need to add another entry to this franchise.
 
BrunoMattei said:
The Collection is better. It's essentially Saw + Aliens.
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Well, I just finished the first one. After the dreadful setup scenes (the main actor has zero dramatic range or charisma... lol @ the scene with his wife/ex/whatever), the action begins, and it's pretty good stuff. Great core concept, good special effects, a solid script, some great kills (I'm not into torture porn at all, but even I had to admit the gore was impressive), Madeline Zima's incredible titties... there's a lot to like about the movie. The camerawork is actually pretty nice too (for a film like this anyway), though there are places where the film looks cheap as hell. The soundtrack sucks, but I didn't expect anything good.

It's no masterpiece, but it was worth watching. You wonder how much better it could have been with a different director or cast. Anyway, I'm going to check out the sequel soon.

EDIT: Just finished it!

The Alien to Aliens comparison is apt. Everything in The Collection is "bigger and better," there's more of everything, and as a result the horror tone of the first film is totally gone. Nothing is scary, and there's very little tension and no subtlety to anything, just gore and action.

And they don't waste a second before letting you know you're watching 100% schlock, so I'm sure the filmmakers knew what they were doing. (I like how the douchebag boyfriend just gives a slightly perturbed "Oh, fuck!" when he loses his finger in the ridiculous rave scene. Hilarious garbage.)

Positives: the female lead is really good. And I couldn't believe the B/C-list "name" actors they had slumming it in this one, but they each gave it their all. The special effects and art direction were pretty good. Not badly directed. The ending was satisfying.

Negatives: nonsensical script where nothing makes any sense. The gore has no real impact because the characters are mostly flat. The antagonist almost feels like a parody of the first movie... it's like he's transformed into an actual, superhuman monster instead of a serial killer. (Note: these might be all positives if you enjoy schlocky horror.)

I would mildly recommend the first movie to horror fans. YMMV with the sequel.

Now I really want to know what happened with The Collected, only a tiny bit of which was ever shot. I don't see how the story continues.
 
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