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Zelos Wilder said:
I need your help everyone.
My coworkers and I had a discussion about horror movies, and the dishwasher said his favorite is Clockwork Orange.
Is that actually a horror movie?
I personally think it could be one, but what's your take?
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No, not in any way whatsoever. Just because it has horrific scenes in it doesn't make it a horror movie, otherwise movies like Irreversible would be one of them.

Dom Cruise said:
I confess I haven't seen the original, but you're probably right, however taken on it's own the remake was decent, the original Dawn is better than the remake but the remake of Dawn is pretty good.
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The original Dawn is overrated. It's a good movie, but the weaker one of the trilogy. Day is the better zombie movie, Night is the better movie. Dawn was too 70s Wacky Things Happening. There's also like 12 different cuts so it's hard to say which one is the definitive one in the first place.

I'm not saying it's in any way a bad movie, by the way, but people are overexcited about the movie because of the context 'Holy shit imagine being stuck in a mall during a zombie apocalypse!' and they let go dumb shit like a biker gang riding through the mall throwing pies in faces of zombies and shit like that. It's still a very good movie, but Day is ultimately a much better zombie movie, and Night is simply a better movie, period.
 
Zelos Wilder said:
I need your help everyone.
My coworkers and I had a discussion about horror movies, and the dishwasher said his favorite is Clockwork Orange.
Is that actually a horror movie?
I personally think it could be one, but what's your take?
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You can make that argument because it certainly has horror elements like Kubrick's 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut. It's as much horror as American Psycho is horror. So yes, it is a horror film of a sorts.

Zelos Wilder said:
Talking about the Xenomorph, the actor who did it, was absolutely amazing. The body language and movement of the alien is something to admire, and I'm a weird way, Weyland Yutani is right. It's kinda beautiful in their own way.
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The production really lucked out by getting a freakishly tall and skinny guy who understood mime.

Internet War Criminal said:
The original Dawn is overrated. It's a good movie, but the weaker one of the trilogy. Day is the better zombie movie, Night is the better movie. Dawn was too 70s Wacky Things Happening. There's also like 12 different cuts so it's hard to say which one is the definitive one in the first place.

I'm not saying it's in any way a bad movie, by the way, but people are overexcited about the movie because of the context 'Holy shit imagine being stuck in a mall during a zombie apocalypse!' and they let go dumb shit like a biker gang riding through the mall throwing pies in faces of zombies and shit like that. It's still a very good movie, but Day is ultimately a much better zombie movie, and Night is simply a better movie, period.
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Agreed but it was very important when it came out. It ushered in a new wave of zombie films and graphic onscreen gore we never before saw on a mainstream level. It was the double whammy of Tom Savini gore via Dawn and Friday the 13th that brought gore to the forefront of horror films.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
The original Dawn is overrated. It's a good movie, but the weaker one of the trilogy. Day is the better zombie movie, Night is the better movie. Dawn was too 70s Wacky Things Happening. There's also like 12 different cuts so it's hard to say which one is the definitive one in the first place.

I'm not saying it's in any way a bad movie, by the way, but people are overexcited about the movie because of the context 'Holy shit imagine being stuck in a mall during a zombie apocalypse!' and they let go dumb shit like a biker gang riding through the mall throwing pies in faces of zombies and shit like that. It's still a very good movie, but Day is ultimately a much better zombie movie, and Night is simply a better movie, period.
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Dawn is my favourite of the original 3, but will say it's very much of its time and would probably be a rough watch for someone seeing it for the first time today. The neon blood might have been a good idea on paper but didn't really work, and the zombie makeup is sometimes so basic you can often see the bits they forgot to apply the body paint to. But the sum is greater than that of its parts, the opening has a genuine sense of things falling apart without resorting to stock footage of mass panic, and it manages to blend humour and horror. The soundtrack is a perfect fit as well. Night is a classic and the creepiest of the 3, but I have to admit the bits without the zombies can feel like watching a stage play

I've probably said it before, but I've tried many times and could never get into Day. Yes, the effects and deaths are fantastic. But take that away, and you get 90 minutes of unlikeable characters sitting around shouting at eachother.
 
The Penultimate Warrior said:
Dawn is my favourite of the original 3, but will say it's very much of its time and would probably be a rough watch for someone seeing it for the first time today. The neon blood might have been a good idea on paper but didn't really work, and the zombie makeup is sometimes so basic you can often see the bits they forgot to apply the body paint to. But the sum is greater than that of its parts, the opening has a genuine sense of things falling apart without resorting to stock footage of mass panic, and it manages to blend humour and horror. The soundtrack is a perfect fit as well. Night is a classic and the creepiest of the 3, but I have to admit the bits without the zombies can feel like watching a stage play

I've probably said it before, but I've tried many times and could never get into Day. Yes, the effects and deaths are fantastic. But take that away, and you get 90 minutes of unlikeable characters sitting around shouting at eachother.
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Day is a god damn masterpiece. I will not tolerate such slander, sir.

 
The Penultimate Warrior said:
I've probably said it before, but I've tried many times and could never get into Day. Yes, the effects and deaths are fantastic. But take that away, and you get 90 minutes of unlikeable characters sitting around shouting at eachother.
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Fuuuuuck off.

First of all it features the three most likable characters in all of the Romero movies: Dr. Logan, FLyboy John, and Bub.

And if you think that Joe Pilato was unlikable and not the best thing ever, fuuuuuuck off twice as much.
 
So, dishwasher and I were talking today and I asked him if he knew of any good found footage movies. He told me about an old horror show on animal planet.

Tonight's viewing was from Animal Planet's show Lost Tapes.

Honestly, it's kinda fun. Thirty minute found footage films with some documentary footage sliced in. Don't expect too much, it's a TV show from the 2010's made on a TV show budget, but there's one absolutely kino episode I saw. The Dover Demon episode was absolutely great. Unironically a fun little experience.
 
Decided to tick two films off the "I really should have watched but never got round to it" list in House and Night of the Demons. Except I realised halfway through I had seen the former, but I was fine watching it again, because it was a lot of fun and had some great practical effects with strong Evil Dead 2 vibes. Similar thing with Demons, although whilst this started off as pure shlock I have to say once they started getting possessed some of the shots are genuinely kindof creepy.
 
The Penultimate Warrior said:
Decided to tick two films off the "I really should have watched but never got round to it" list in House and Night of the Demons. Except I realised halfway through I had seen the former, but I was fine watching it again, because it was a lot of fun and had some great practical effects with strong Evil Dead 2 vibes. Similar thing with Demons, although whilst this started off as pure shlock I have to say once they started getting possessed some of the shots are genuinely kindof creepy.
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I was surprised to learn that House (1986) came out before Evil Dead 2 (1987).

Gender: Xenomorph said:
I'm gonna rewatch classic scifi/horror movies.
Alien, the Thing, the Blob...

Any other suggestions?
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The Fly belongs with those three. As a wildcard pick, I'd add Lifeforce. Deadly Spawn for the zero-budget category.
 
Am I the only one that didn't think Halloween Kills was that bad?


Internet War Criminal said:
No, not in any way whatsoever. Just because it has horrific scenes in it doesn't make it a horror movie, otherwise movies like Irreversible would be one of them.


The original Dawn is overrated. It's a good movie, but the weaker one of the trilogy. Day is the better zombie movie, Night is the better movie. Dawn was too 70s Wacky Things Happening. There's also like 12 different cuts so it's hard to say which one is the definitive one in the first place.

I'm not saying it's in any way a bad movie, by the way, but people are overexcited about the movie because of the context 'Holy shit imagine being stuck in a mall during a zombie apocalypse!' and they let go dumb shit like a biker gang riding through the mall throwing pies in faces of zombies and shit like that. It's still a very good movie, but Day is ultimately a much better zombie movie, and Night is simply a better movie, period.
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Yes, where Dawn really excels is the premise, the zombie and gore effects are sadly not that great, I wish they were a little better.

But the original feels more intelligent than the remake, the remake has that for lack of a better term "dudebro" vibe a lot of 2000s media does, it feels more like an action movie than a horror movie.

The Penultimate Warrior said:
Decided to tick two films off the "I really should have watched but never got round to it" list in House and Night of the Demons. Except I realised halfway through I had seen the former, but I was fine watching it again, because it was a lot of fun and had some great practical effects with strong Evil Dead 2 vibes. Similar thing with Demons, although whilst this started off as pure shlock I have to say once they started getting possessed some of the shots are genuinely kindof creepy.
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I loved House when I saw it as a kid, it had just that right mix of being spooky but not too intense and just with a lot of cool, imaginative stuff, I re-watched it once in 2007 and have been meaning to watch it again.

More recently (but still a while ago) I watched House II: Second Story, it's a lot less scary than the original, but still features a lot of cool stuff and probably the best cameo ever with John Ratzenberger.
 
I was looking up the re-release of I Spit on Your Grave: Deja Vu (the REAL sequel to the rape/revenge masterpiece) just because it features an exclusive commentary by Joe Bob Briggs. It's the first commentary he's recorded in almost 2 decades. He recorded a commentary on the original which is amazing and one of those all time classic film commentaries. Joe Bob is just at that level.




I know the re-release came out last month but I wasn't able to find a torrent or an MP3 of just the commentary. I tried re-watching the sequel and it's really fucking bad. It's horrifically overlong, acting is amateurish especially on the rapists, and it's just lame. The only thing it had going for it was the lead chick and Jennifer replacement (playing Jennifer's daughter) who was very attractive. That was it. I don't think I can try it again even with a Joe Bob Briggs' commentary. Hopefully someone uploads the commentary as an MP3.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
I know the re-release came out last month but I wasn't able to find a torrent or an MP3 of just the commentary. I tried re-watching the sequel and it's really fucking bad. It's horrifically overlong, acting is amateurish especially on the rapists, and it's just lame.
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I noped the fuck out after about 20 minutes. Utterly unwatchable, and it's not like I have demanding standards. I'd rather be gangraped, at least it would be over faster.
 
talk sh1t said:
- and ffs how did they never realize civilization was still going on outside of the UK before the main character spotted that single airplane in the sky??
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IIRC, the British government locked down the country ASAP and did their best to evacuate VIP's (The royals, members of Parliament, etc.) and uninfected civilians in coastal towns that were far enough from the initial outbreaks to not fully collapse into panic during the first few days of the epidemic.

Part of their quarantine procedures included intentionally putting out misinformation that the virus was also in Paris and New York to help maintain the strict quarantine and keep people from trying to leave Britain or overrun the ports. One of the minor characters near the beginning of the movie mentions the airports were closed off even to the wealthy, so the evacuations were probably all done by sea with the possible exceptions of VIP's in private flights.

I personally think 28 Days Later is a great movie, but I agree that it's the kind of movie that you enjoy a lot more if you saw it for the first time when it was still relatively novel.

I agree with you about 28 Weeks Later in full, fuck that shit.
 
I loved 28 Days Later when it first came out but a big part of it's appeal was seeing the return of the zombie genre done so well, now that's been almost 20 years later and the zombie genre has become well trodden I can see why it would have a lesser impact.

For me though I have a lot of nostalgia for 28 Days Later since I heavily associate it with the time and the age that I was when it came out on dvd.

I have mixed thoughts on 28 Weeks Later, I didn't like it when I saw it in theaters but I re-watched it on blu ray once in 2008 and liked it more the second time, I'm not sure what I would think now or how I really feel looking back though, it's definitely not as good as the first movie and the ending kind of pisses me off since we never got a follow up, I prefer the more optimistic ending of the first film.
 
talk sh1t said:
- soundtrack based on that kind of edgy British Indie rock I abhor; fuck radiohead. (although I'll admit this is really about my personal taste in music, it was actually executed well);
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godspeed you! black emperor is fucking based, and using them over fucking empty and ruined london was one of the most iconic horror shot for over like 20 years.

How the fuck can you not think this is perfect?


Fucking millenials/zoomers don't know shit.
 
I prefer 28 Weeks Later. 28 Days is good all the way up until the 3rd act. 28 Weeks is consistently better aside from going full schlock with the helicopter blades cutting up zombies which eerily mirrors the same scene from the same year from Planet Terror. Coincidence or was some studio executive like "We gotta' have more scenes of zombies being cut apart by helicopter blades!"
 
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