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Okay, speaking of bad adaptions or reboots, I recently saw that new Firestarter remake with Zak Efron. Its flaming hot garbage that not only fails to be a decent adaptation of the book, but fails to be a decent movie either. It makes no internal sense, looks like shit, and is infuriatingly nonsensical.

The plot of the book is that the government research agency, The Shop, is doing experiments with psychic-power inducing hallucinogens, which don't go well. 10 out of 12 college student volunteers die, but the two survivors bond over the experience, marry, and bear a child. Oh, and ever since getting injected, those two get mild psychic powers and their baby is a very powerful psychic, a pyromancer. Eventually the government freaks out, kills the mom, and sends dad and 8-year old Charlene 'Charlie' on the run. After a year of being fugitives, including cool scenes at an airport and the farm of a kindly Irv Mander they are eventually caught by the really weird agent John Rainbird, who is obsessed with knowing Charlie 'intimately' (by killing her) to take her power into the afterlife. At the Shop's facility, the dad is drugged and thought harmless, while Charlie is manipulated by Rainbird into demonstrating her power for the science tests. Eventually her dad (Andy) overcomes the drugs and tries to escape with Charlie, ending in a big firestorm.

The 1984 movie is a good adaptation and all around decent film. It follows the plot of the book pretty closely, with a few changes here and there to deal with the reality of film versus text - a few characters are merged, some scenes are extended, but it sticks to the formula. Which is good, because Stephen King, even while coked out of his mind, understands narrative structure. The special effects are fine enough, it isn't difficult to light stuff on fire or do fire stunts (and thankfully we get a lot of stuntmen on fire, its great), with more than adequate Italian-influenced and dramatic cinematography, directed by Mark Lester (Commando). It also stars a young Drew Barrymore alongside David Keith (as Andy, her dad) and Heather Locklear (as Vicki, her mom) - and this casting, to me, was key. The heart of the story, which the 2022 remake completely misses, is about the connection between parents and their children, specifically between Andy and Charlie.
A father's love and devotion is the driving force of both the novel and 1984 movie, and it only works because Barrymore and Keith particularly had extremely good chemistry and are so believable.
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The recent remake completely fucks this emotional core of the story, absolutely and completely. First of all they up-age Charlie from 8 to 12, so instead of being adorable the actress is adolescent and bitchy, secondly the film spends a LOT of time with Vicki alive so they can build this really messed up dynamic that was NOT in the book or 84 film where Vicki is advocating that they train Charlie to control her power while Andy wants to just repress and never use it. (In the book/84 film Vicki and Andy both wanted Charlie to learn how to control her power.) Additionally they poison the dynamic between Andy and Charlie with all kinds of snark and bad vibes, and have Charlie actually tell her dad that she wished she had set him on fire. Yeah, so that doesn't bode well. Further, they re-introduce Rainbird as a former experiment volunteer turned psychic which obliterates The Shop's motivation to capture Charlie - why do they need her as a guinea pig to find out how psychic power works when they already have prior experiments and used that to produce agents? But its okay, it lets Rainbird make a BIPOC statement 'Did you think they would experiment on pretty White people first?' or something. So the structure gets all fucked up when Rainbird is sent to get Charlie after she blows up part of her school due to bullying (the bully is White, obviously, while the teach and principal are black and asian) and Rainbird kills the mom after psychically interrogating her. Andy and Charlie come home and confront Rainbird, and despite Vicki's body flopping out of the closet, Charlie only blasts Rainbird across the room, she does not kill him. So now they can't follow the plot of the book at all. After that Andy and Charlie go on the run, and while Andy is asleep in the car Charlie tries to pet a stray cat, it claws at her and she blasts it with fire. Its laying there, quietly yowling in agony in a pool of asphalt and Andy comes up and it like 'gotta put him out of his misery' and goads her to incinerating the cat to death. WHAT THE FUCK. They turned an adorable little girl that didn't want to hurt anyone into an evil bitch that wants to set her dad on fire.

After that, they combine two scenes from the book/84 film in a weird, shitty way and completely ruin Irv Mander as a character (who was a total badass old guy). I don't know why reboots and remakes do these kinds of things, it just reminds me of how good the first one was and how much the thing I'm watching sucks. So anyway, after some shitty scenes that are poorly shot and scripted worse The Shop has Andy captured and Charlie is free in the woods. After running in the woods and sleeping there overnight she decides that she has to go rescue her dad from the government facility she saw in a psychic vision- the dad she said she hated and wanted to burn alive. So she spends at most a few hours in a training montage, nearly causes a forest fire, then emerges into a cul de sac where three boys are biking. She uses her 'psychic domination' power to humiliate the White one, and asks 'where's the coast' and apparently in the space of an afternoon bikes to 'the coast' where the secret government facility is just sitting there. No security at the garage, so she waltzes into an Agent's car and after a short exchange melts his face, but just enough to torture him, then 'puts him out of his misery' like with the cat. Somehow the dude's ID card still works, so she tangos into the the cheapest looking interior corridors and finally finds her dad behind glass. TWIST ALERT: Her dad didn't send the psychic visions, it was Rainbird, somehow? And also The Shop has magic anti-mental domination contact lenses, so the new, diverse recast Captain Hollister can mug with Andy and promise to 'make Charlie a superhero' and saying 'you can't burn me without burning your dad.' So they pull the trigger on the 'Vicki was right because women always are and Andy has to come to terms and suffer for it' plotline and Andy realizes Charlie needs to use her powers for more murder. So he 'pushes' her with his physic domination to burn him (and Cap Hollister) alive, starting her extremely cheap looking 'rampage' through the facility which ends, bizarrely, with Rainbird presenting himself to be killed. Despite the fact that Rainbird killed her mom yesterday and just got her dad killed, she just walks past him. Then she strolls out to the beach, where Rainbird joins her, and she takes his hand and walks off into the credits with Rainbird. The guy that killed her mom.

The structural and technical issues alone are stupid - how Charlie bikes around and travels is ridiculous, that a simple flame suit makes one invincible to Charlie's power, how she survives cremating a man inside the same car she is in, how anti-psychic contacts work, all that shit is terrible but secondary to their inability to make a consistent theme work. Trying to shoehorn in some ridiculous feminist theme about how Charlie and her power are 'oppressed' by the patriarchy (Andy) not only doesn't make logical sense, it also destroys the foundational relationship between father and daughter. Adding in some kind of White Supremacy bullshit to make Rainbird a psychic and imply a whole other set of experiments destroys the narrative motivation for The Shop and also Rainbird's motivation. Everything gets so twisted up and non-sensical that not only is the overall plot completely incoherent, but scenes are disjointed and nonsensical.

The real horror of Firestarter 2022 is that the studio thought it was ready to release.
 
That's a lot of words about firestarter that I'm not gonna read, because I couldn't bother to watch more than 10 minutes of the remake, but yeah the original one was definitely decent and I'd give serious good money to see an adaptation of The Faculty if they want to make a modern Stephen King movie where they are experimenting on kids and giving them powers and shit
 
I thought the original Firestarter was pretty good. It's a property the powers that be keep revisiting because there was even a TV movie/TV show that came out in the 00's.
Well the central theme of Firestarter was always about the familial connection, how parents try to instill values and morality through love and relationships so the potential of their children will serve good ends. This is in contrast with the faceless, loveless, mechanistic Government which tries to subvert children to serve their own pursuit for power. It is a timeless tale about the tension between society and the family, between a child's potential to do great good or evil, and their maturation into an understanding of Right and Wrong.

Pyromancy is just used as a way to exaggerate and highlight those themes.
yeah the original one was definitely decent
Me and some buds watched the 84 and remake as a double feature, which really put the many failures of the remake in stark relief. We all went into the 84 film thinking it'd be chintzy and dated, but besides the cars and suits everything held up really, really well. All the special effects, particularly the fires, were completely practical and looked utterly real. More importantly, Drew Barrymore and David Keith really sell their father/daughter relationship and Barrymore was pretty skillful and well directed! The entire cast really put in a lot of effort, and it carries the movie. You feel the love, the fear, the terror and triumph of it all.

If you haven't seen it in a few years, give it a re-watch.
 
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I came back from Crimes of the Future last night. Theater wasn't too packed and whenever I see quieter movies they're always next door to some loud as fuck movie where you can hear the bass through the walls.

Overall, very good. There's elements of multiple Cronenberg films within it such as Naked Lunch, Existenze, Dead Ringers, Crash and a little bit of Scanners. It's pretty graphic but not hyper gory compared to say Videodrome or The Fly but it's graphic and uncomfortable enough to be deeply unsettling to anyone not familiar with Cronenberg's oeuvre.

The plot can be summed up as:

Surgery is the new sex.

I don't know how I'd rate it compared to his other films but I'd comfortably give it an 8 out of 10. That may not sound like a ringing endorsement but keep in mind I am comparing this to his all-time career highs like Videodrome, The Brood, and The Fly which are masterpieces especially Videodrome.
 
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I say for pride mouth everyone watches the Sleepaway Camp movies in honor
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Of the trilogy, I like 2 the most. Part 4 AKA Return is really bad and approaches so bad it's good. Then there's an unofficial part 5 made up of the 40 minutes of footage they shot for the original part 4 The Survivor that's made up of mostly stock footage from the other 3 movies.

Last I heard, they were working on a TV show/streaming reboot.
 
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Of the trilogy, I like 2 the most. Part 4 AKA Return is really bad and approaches so bad it's good. Then there's an unofficial part 5 made up of the 40 minutes of footage they shot for the original part 4 The Survivor that's made up of mostly stock footage from the other 3 movies.

Last I heard, they were working on a TV show/streaming reboot.
I agree the first and the second are the ones I like out of the series. The reboot will most likely be garbage knowing today's environment.
 
Part 3 is okay. Watching the uncut version makes it at least watchable and it has some decent one-liners from Angela.
 
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Of the trilogy, I like 2 the most. Part 4 AKA Return is really bad and approaches so bad it's good. Then there's an unofficial part 5 made up of the 40 minutes of footage they shot for the original part 4 The Survivor that's made up of mostly stock footage from the other 3 movies.

Last I heard, they were working on a TV show/streaming reboot.
I remember Return had the most unlikable protagonist I've ever seen. Dude acted like Chris-Chan.
 
I remember Return had the most unlikable protagonist I've ever seen. Dude acted like Chris-Chan.
It was weird too was some seens made him a Bully and others had being bullied. But honestly it made since I would Bully the shit out of a peice of shit like him too.
 
The tie-in novelization of Videodrome was written by "Jack Martin" i.e. the late great horror author Dennis Etchison, who had been invited by Cronenberg to collaborate with him and go over the script. The novel is pretty faithful to the book with some divergences, like you'd expect, including the inclusion of a scene never filmed for the movie where a tv set rises from Max Renn's bathtub in a way to suggest Bottecelli's The Brith of Venus.

Also note, Etchison as "Jack Martin" wrote the novelization of Halloween III.

“Times have not really changed, my friend. The quest for control remains a constant. And now it’s time again. In the end, we don’t decide these things, you know. We are but a part of the great plan. Today the planets are in alignment, the moon is in syzygy, and it’s time. That’s all.”

Cochran snapped his fingers. A gray suit held out three masks.

“Which one? Ah, I think this one will suit you perfectly. It becomes you. It will become you, you know.”

He selected the painted skull and pulled it over Challis’s head like a hood.

“Tell me one thing first,” said Challis. “Why children?”

“Do I need a reason? Oh, I could tell you that they are the easiest prey—and they are, you know. People nowadays no longer listen to them. They provide the easiest entry, the path of least resistance. What better reason, from a purely pragmatic view? But they are such irritating little creatures, don’t you agree? You know that you do, deep down. They are as noisy as wretched sheep and twice as dirty, given to us from out of the filthiest part of woman. And you know what happens to dirty little lambs, don’t you, Doctor? They are invariably given over to the slaughter.”

Etchison was also contracted by Carptenter and Debra Hill to write a script for a Halloween IV that would have taken place a decade after the first two movies. After it was completed, Moustapha Akkad felt that the script was too cerebral, and rejected it. He wanted something more close to the first two films, which in turn prompted a legal battle between Carpenter & Hill, both of whom defended Etchison’s script, and Akkad over who had say in the creative direction of the franchise. Akkad had won the battle, and Carpenter and Hill left the franchise.

It started off with the idea that Loomis and Michael Myers were definitely killed in the explosion at the end of the second movie, but the events of that Halloween night still haunt the residents of Haddonfield - some people think Myers is still around and will return, others fear that some child, affected by the events of that night will grow up to become like Myers. Halloween celebrations are banned in the town, even horror movies are forbidden but as the years go on some people chafe against the Halloween prohibition. Laurie Strode's two charges have grown up and the girl, Lindsay has forgotten that night but the boy, Tommy remembers everything. He tries to jog Lindsay's memories against the disapproval of her mother, because he believes the Halloween crackdown and everything that goes with is doing more harm than good for the town's children. It also goes into how the community has been affected by being the site of infamous events - the Sheriff and his people are having an eventful time dealing with protesters, robberies and an overbearing PTA calling for stronger censorship as local and neighboring businesses fight to keep their doors open during Halloween by pushing back against the relatively new law that has been established by the town. Some business owners are selling Halloween merchandise off the books and behind closed doors, and a local TV station is running ads for a horror movie marathon at a three-screen drive-in theater, located across the river from Haddonfield which has gotten the downright tyrannical PTA all frothing at their mouths. It's an interesting set-up for a slasher film, I thought.
 
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[I don't know how I'd rate it compared to his other films but I'd comfortably give it an 8 out of 10. That may not sound like a ringing endorsement but keep in mind I am comparing this to his all-time career highs like Videodrome, The Brood, and The Fly which are masterpieces especially Videodrome.

I saw it last night at my local indie theater and thought it was fine. I honestly couldn't tell if he was embracing the avant-garde art scene or making fun of it. The HR Giger inspired look for the medical equipment was pretty fun and helped add an element of surrealism to everything. I really wish they had spent a little more time with because that felt like the more interesting story.

I did love the scene with the , just for the concept.
 
I saw it last night at my local indie theater and thought it was fine. I honestly couldn't tell if he was embracing the avant-garde art scene or making fun of it. The HR Giger inspired look for the medical equipment was pretty fun and helped add an element of surrealism to everything. I really wish they had spent a little more time with because that felt like the more interesting story.

I did love the scene with the , just for the concept.
I mean, that's him, that's Cronenberg. Have you not seen Naked Lunch or Existenze? Let alone the flesh gun from Videodrome.
 
I saw it last night at my local indie theater and thought it was fine. I honestly couldn't tell if he was embracing the avant-garde art scene or making fun of it. The HR Giger inspired look for the medical equipment was pretty fun and helped add an element of surrealism to everything. I really wish they had spent a little more time with because that felt like the more interesting story.

I did love the scene with the , just for the concept.
I'm just happy my local multiplex is screening COTF
 

Check out those directors. This is shaping up to be Masters of Horror: Good Version.

Cigarette Burns was merely decent as was the Takashi Miike episode.

Edit: Me and @Frank D'arbo saw Argento's latest Black Sunglasses or Dark Sunglasses or Black Glasses or whatever the fuck the exact title is. It's a painfully mediocre effort with some cheap cinematography. The opening kill was pretty good but it then it just meanders and doesn't do much with the premise. We're just shown who the killer is without any kind of mystery or anything to make it interesting. Aside from the opening gory murder there's one other bit of gore and then that is it.

The nicest thing you can say about it is that it's better than Dracula 3D which is not saying much if you've seen that one.
 
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