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Finished watching TCM and didn't think it was too awful. Shelly feels completely unnecessary (and I have to wonder if her ending up in the garbage wasn't meta commentary for something) and it seems more like it's making fun of woke stuff (school shooting survivor ends up saving herself with a gun; "Yeah, that's a cult."), plus lots of good gore. Like Halloween Kills I'd call it slasher porn -- not really a great horror movie but if you like seeing people getting disemboweled and chopped up in different ways then it's entertaining.

But, yeah, the biggest problem is that there's no need for it to be a Texas Chainsaw Massacre film. Without the rest of the family and surreal, weird moments with Leatherface (his whole Pretty Woman getup) they might as well have just made the killer into some new, generic slasher villain. Not much would've lost or needed to be changed, and I'm sure the expectations and comparisons to old TCM films is hurting the film more than helping.
 
Leatherface felt more like the Leatherface from the remake series than the original.

The original Leatherface was a pants shitting retard. He wouldn't be as crafty and clever as Leatherface is here.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Finished watching TCM and didn't think it was too awful. Shelly feels completely unnecessary (and I have to wonder if her ending up in the garbage wasn't meta commentary for something) and it seems more like it's making fun of woke stuff (school shooting survivor ends up saving herself with a gun; "Yeah, that's a cult."), plus lots of good gore. Like Halloween Kills I'd call it slasher porn -- not really a great horror movie but if you like seeing people getting disemboweled and chopped up in different ways then it's entertaining.

But, yeah, the biggest problem is that there's no need for it to be a Texas Chainsaw Massacre film. Without the rest of the family and surreal, weird moments with Leatherface (his whole Pretty Woman getup) they might as well have just made the killer into some new, generic slasher villain. Not much would've lost or needed to be changed, and I'm sure the expectations and comparisons to old TCM films is hurting the film more than helping.
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Yeah, without the rest of the insane family members it just didn't feel the same.
 
I finished watching the new TCM not an hour ago and have a few thoughts

-The Protagonists being assholes who kind of maybe potentially killed the old woman is touched on for maybe 10 seconds and not brought up again and the two final girls seem unaffected by it towards the end of the runtime
-The “We have feral hogs“ comment was almost undoubtedly written by someone painfully unfunny and was most likely a vague anti-gun Jab
-The writers I Guess just forgot about the Glock the Mechanic had when he died and that the racially ambiguous brown sister was not 10 feet away from it when getting out from under the bed
-Any themes of Cannibalism were absent, while I am not a real TCM buff I think it would be safe to assume that Every other TCM had at least subtle themes of Cannibalism. Also lacking was anything related to Slaughterhouses beside the Jessie Lee Curtis cosplayer butchering a pig
-In my opinion Leatherface massacring the entire bus was, uncharacteristic(?) not because he killed them but because he killed them in such quick succession and rapidly, feels Un-slasher like.
-An extremely minor nitpick I have is that Leatherface in the face of not being established as a superhuman or as supernaturally empowered is able to shrug off Injuries that would Incapacitate normal humans.
-If the movie was supposed to be pushing some kind of message then I don't know what it is (besides a vague posturing of Racism BAD) because the movie is about a Multiracial group of Liberal yuppie gentrifiers buying up a rural ghost town inhabited by 5 people one of whom is a Stereotypical conservative white man.

Overall 5/10 that scene with the swinging door was okay I guess.

It also just blatantly copied Halloween 2018.
 
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captkrisma said:
Yeah, without the rest of the insane family members it just didn't feel the same.
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You know? This is the first one that doesn't have any family members except for the woman who was his guardian. But I hesitate to call her a family member because how she came to adopting Leatherface or her relation to him is never explained. So I don't think she counts.

It's an interesting enough idea to see him independent of his family but they botched it.
 
I too, just finished the new tcm movie:
*The menopausal warrior woman trope ala Halloween [2018].
*Ramen headed millennials.
*Ham fisted social commentary.
*REMEMBER SANDY HOOK?!?!
*Ironic dabbing on social media but not seriously because those guys mean well.
*Gentrification good, tradition bad.
*Some sort of 'old america is threat to nu-america subtext.
*Hes a gun toting, diesel driving good ol boy for plot armour and fodder. Realistically the only cunt to make it out of their alive and with the means to.
*Leatherface would probably be an octogenarian by now but has mcu level villain power.
*Better throw in some interracial shit too for demographics. Burgers?
*None of the tcm hallmarks are there except leather, and as noted before is probably a spinoff from the 2000s era timeline.
 
They also blatantly stole the jack swinging axe shot from the shining.
 
Just watched Texas Chainsaw on Netflix. We got some food and made a night of it, it was fun. Leatherface throwing his hammer at that girl and then later doing it again with the chainsaw was funny. What a cheapshot. Leatherface was way too clever, like several times I'd turn to my partner and say 'nah just hide there or do this Leatherface is stupid' then he'd fucking bamboozle the zoomers. Honestly it had its issues but it was a fun movie, the ending was hilarious - I low-key saw it coming because why are protagonists so dumb but the way it was done with the self driving car and shit had me howling. Funny movie, I'm not mad about it.
 
lurkin said:
REMEMBER SANDY HOOK?!?!
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That plot device was meaningless, the white sister did not shy away from firearms in the slightest and the “I was supposed to die there“ line seems out of character seeing as how the white sister only expressed such a feeling when in the back of the strong independent Texas Ranger final girl from the first movie's car. I assume it was included because of the Oxford shooting.
 
AGPinochet said:
-An extremely minor nitpick I have is that Leatherface in the face of not being established as a superhuman or as supernaturally empowered is able to shrug off Injuries that would Incapacitate normal humans.
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Even in the original movies Leatherface can and does feel pain. This one made him out to be the fucking Terminator without ever bothering to tell us why.

In pro wrasslin' terms: LEARN TO FUCKING SELL!
 
captkrisma said:
Even in the original movies Leatherface can and does feel pain.
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And in this one he's stabbed in the abdomen by a buck knife, jabbed with a corkscrew ( only in the arm however, I have seen video footage of a man standing very casually while having deep gouges in his torso from large shards of broken glass so the corkscrew jab would be a very minor injury for a normal human) and shot three or four times (albeit these were the typical “non lethal shoulder hits“ that are oh so typical in media)
 
The movie was OK. Honselty I loved how most of our victims were SJWs liberals. So it was fun watching Leathetface kill a bunch of SJWs.

Now who the fuck was that old woman with Leatherface? I know the cook and grandpa would be long dead by now.

The social commentary was annoying. But I think that's what made it fun when Leatherface killed all the SJWS.
 
The scene where they use the flashbulb sound effect from the original when they're having a cookout was pretty silly, yet clever. I liked the sunflower scene where Leatherface appears and the climax at the cinema, but the rest is so dull. The anti-hero ends up with hammer smashed face and is the only empathetic character in the movie. Also, how can someone still be alive after getting a chainsaw through the belly? It's interesting how Netflix passed on Holmes and Watson, but picked this turd up. I'm guessing they really thought it'd be a hit based on the legacy of the IP. The fact that they forgot about Leatherface's cannibal family didn't make sense and I was thinking they'd write Leatheface off as having autogynephilia, but there's nothing to explore in that regard. It's a shame because I liked Don't Breathe and the sequel was okay, but this movie suffered from some horrible writing. Having Sally still be alive and wanting revenge was just a waste. Apparently there's a post credit scene where Leatherface goes back to the original house, setting up the inevitable continuation of this failed franchise. They did make the movie look retro in its aesthetic, I'll give them that.
 
BrunoMattei said:
The only positive I can say is that the gore was good. It really made me reevaluate Texas Chainsaw 3D and I think that one was at least "pretty good" even if the logic is completely nonsensical. Plus it's heart was in the right place with the casting.
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I watched TC 3D for the first time just before watching the Netflix one. I have to assume that the scene with the cop using a smart phone and the headstone with a 2012 death date came from studio-mandated reshoots or something. For such a talky, heavily-plotted slasher, it sure goes out of its way to make no sense, on multiple fronts.

AGPinochet said:
-An extremely minor nitpick I have is that Leatherface in the face of not being established as a superhuman or as supernaturally empowered is able to shrug off Injuries that would Incapacitate normal humans.
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It's a huge screw-up to me. Leatherface from the original felt almost like a real person, and reworking him into Jason/Michael Myers (with no family) while heavily referencing the original is lame and a huge cheat. None of the other movies got him right, but this one feels particularly off.
 
Calandrino said:
I watched TC 3D for the first time just before watching the Netflix one. I have to assume that the scene with the cop using a smart phone and the headstone with a 2012 death date came from studio-mandated reshoots or something. For such a talky, heavily-plotted slasher, it sure goes out of its way to make no sense, on multiple fronts.
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Agreed. If you turn off your brain and just ignore the extremely flawed logic then it's a fun movie. But I guess you could say that about anything. This is how far the bar has been lowered for this franchise.
 
captkrisma said:
Even in the original movies Leatherface can and does feel pain. This one made him out to be the fucking Terminator without ever bothering to tell us why.

In pro wrasslin' terms: LEARN TO FUCKING SELL!
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It's like they forgot in the first one that he's incapacitated by accidentally cutting his own leg and screaming in pain, and in the actually decent 2003 remake he loses his arm and freaks out, slumps down to the floor, and wails. There's a scene in the first one especially I like where Leatherface is alone in the kitchen and acting upset and frustrated about the protagonists being there, like there's a part of him who really doesn't want to hurt them, but he knows his family will make him do it. Leatherface was always crazy, but he was also just retarded, a big manchild who didn't really know and maybe didn't even enjoy what he was doing, but thought he had to for his family, the truly sicked and demented ones.

1, 2, and 2003 are the only ones that do that though. Everything else makes him an uncaring Terminator who just kills because the script demands it.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Agreed. If you turn off your brain and just ignore the extremely flawed logic then it's a fun movie. But I guess you could say that about anything. This is how far the bar has been lowered for this franchise.
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To shut my brain off that much I'd have to stick my head in a microwave. I think I can appreciate the Southern gothic movie they had probably set out to make. The surprise inheritance and identifying birthmark would have been cliched writing even 200 years ago, but maybe that was the point. The movie as it is looks almost as blatantly hacked-up as Jason Goes to Hell. I don't know if any BTS drama has come out but there had to have been something. The timeline glitches had to have been a last-minute change because a lot of the costuming, music etc indicate they were shooting for a 1990s setting.

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There's a scene in the first one especially I like where Leatherface is alone in the kitchen and acting upset and frustrated about the protagonists being there, like there's a part of him who really doesn't want to hurt them, but he knows his family will make him do it.
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I always liked that scene too. iirc the actor said he played the scene as if he were frightened, like Leatherface was scared of unexplained strangers barging into his home the way a little kid might be. My sense is that he didn't get out of the house much or go looking for people to kill... he just slaughtered whoever the Cook brought him. He only used a chainsaw for a weapon because that's what he happened to have at the time, and he only went out chasing people because he felt threatened.

lurkin said:
Tcm: next generation is the best tcm. Kim henkels idea of the illuminati using serial killers as a study of trauma and disassociation is so on the money its amazing they made that film.
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If nothing else, imo the illuminati thing was the best thing in the movie. It makes sense that backwoods cannibals would think TBPT were spying on them, and given the tone of the movie it figures that they'd be right. People single it out as one of the dumb things in the movie, but I dunno, that aspect never really bothered me, nor does the random-as-hell ending.
 
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