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The "evil" QB's name is White, and "he didn't earn his success." Yeah, totally not heavy handed.

The movie is retarded and meant for retards to enjoy. Half of it is stolen from MK back when it was good and the other have is just whining about Tom Brady.
Nobody calls him White in the film. His last name is probably shown twice in the beginning of the movie. He didn't earn his success because
of the occult ritual, which is in the process of being performed on the main character and which has been passed down through multiple QBs. His body is supernaturally augmented. A process that the main character is also being put through without his knowledge for most of the film.
You're reading too much into that. If they were going to beat you over the head with "white people bad" then the QB would have actually, you know, been white.
 
I want to watch some good new horror. I've been trying to find movies and failing to find anything modern worth watching. Can any of you recommend me some movies from the last 5 years that are good? Not "good for a modern movie", just good.

IMDB list of 2022 horror movies
IMDB list of 2021 horror movies
IMDB list of 2022 horror movies
IMDB list of 2023 horror movies
IMDB list of 2024 horror movies

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I liked Freaky and Spree from the 2022 list, but both are more dark comedy than actual horror. I liked Thanksgiving (2023).
 
"and occasional monsters"
my dad asked me about this phrase last night
I vaguely recall it too, couldn't be from anything past like, 00 but could go back ages like the trailer for some creature feature
it feels like it's part of a gag, like a rundown of fireworks "with loud report and occasional monsters" and then it's ignored and literally monsters hop out of the fountain, or a prescription label warning similarly used
or an ironic rundown of the feature of the mad scientist's castle, like the jokes in Haunted Mansion of wall-to-wall running creeps etc
google comes up with nothing, a trailer for a spook show would make sense how we'd see it (yay sinister cinema!) but it wouldn't be transcribed

any ideas?
 
Shudder have a TV series called greatest horror. It's a talking heads show where they talk about movie tropes and good movies in different genres. Cheap, easy to digest stuff you watch to find a new movie or get some nostalgia.

I have never seen a dumber talking heads show in my life. First red flag is it has a tranny talking head. I tried to push past it but then we got to "Red neck horror" where a woman said Chainsaw massacre is about a capitalist house and how it has to consume people.. Well that's fucking retarded. Final girl segment came up and another woman complained how Final girls weren't feminist. Being saved by men or not having a group of women band together to survive is some how unacceptable for horror movies?

I really want to like shudder and I enjoy these low effort shows but what the fuck happened to get these people commenting? The onion couldn't parody a leftist so bad they would think Leather Face is a stand in for business CEOs.
 
woman said Chainsaw massacre is about a capitalist house and how it has to consume people.. Well that's fucking retarded.
I'm getting flashbacks to that Shining "documentary" where some pseudo-intellectual said the movie was about (feather) Indians losing their land because of various shots showing American frontier imagery and the line about the Overlook Hotel being built on native land.
 
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Freddy needs to become dangerous again and he needs to target innocent children not just slutty teenagers
He only killed like one slut in the whole series as far as I remember. Jason's the prudish one.

If you had to write the story for a final nightmare on elm street movie, with Robert Englund back, how would you do it?
I really tried to think about this and I guess I got nothing. If anything, just make another one and don't try to get cute or high concept about it. "Freddy kills some people, then 'dies' 'forever'" is good enough for me.
 
He only killed like one slut in the whole series as far as I remember. Jason's the prudish one.
They're all sluts in Hollywood.

Tried another Shudder talking head thing and there was a black woman complaining about the Male gaze over the start of It Follows within 2 minutes of it starting.

Is any one else making nostalgia documentaries with minor film actors talking about their roles? I am sick of feminist bollocks taking up run time. I wouldn't have minded if it was at least on topic but it's political sperging by activists. I remember when Shudder came out and I was excited for them to make TV series like this and instead it's garbage. Worse than youtube reviews.
 
You're reading too much into that. If they were going to beat you over the head with "white people bad" then the QB would have actually, you know, been white.
I might give this to you since Peele wasn't the writer or the director for this film and only a producer but consider this. If we look at Nope as an example Steven Yeun only had a role in the film because Jesse Plemons was unavailable which certainly shows a preference for White heels from Peele and that the racial casting of the part may've differed from the intention of the script. Additionally if you look at the racial background of drafting in the NFL for the past 24 years (from CasteFootball)
- Quarterback - 224 of 304 White - 73.7%
- Fullback - 30 of 73 White - 41%
- Running Back - 12 of 483 White - 2.5%
- Wide Receiver - 57 of 807 White - 7.1%
- Tight End - 196 of 353 White - 55.5%
- Center - 133 White out of 178 -- 74.7%
- Offensive Guard - 161 of 369 White - 43.6%
- Offensive Tackle - 203 of 512 White - 39.6%
- Place Kicker, Punter, Long Snapper -- 111 chosen, all but 2 or 3 of them White
- Defensive Tackle - 45 of 516 White - 8.7%
- Defensive End - 91 of 558 White - 16.3%
- Linebacker - 142 of 786 White - 18.1%
- Safety - 46 of 550 White - 8.4%
- Cornerback - 3 of 767 White - .39%
You'll see that Quarterback, Center, and Kicker are all decidedly White populated positions in football despite Whites only making up around 22% of drafted NFL players for the past 24 years. Was the script written with this in mind?

This combined with the character being named White and Peele's history points me towards thinking that it is more white people bad from parties involved but that maybe they toned it down some.
Sticker me for sperging
 
shows a preference for White heels from Peele
He definitely does, you won't see me arguing that

You'll see that Quarterback, Center, and Kicker are all decidedly White populated positions in football despite Whites only making up around 22% of drafted NFL players for the past 24 years. Was the script written with this in mind?
Peele didn't write the script. I don't know if the casting for Him was changed from the writers' intention. Were all but one of the football players in the movie black because the filmmakers were thinking about majority white QBs? What sense does that make? If anything it further convinces me that "whitey bad" was not the point of the movie. People have speculated that Isaiah White's last name is a wink and nudge to the fact that he's a black man in a role usually filled by a whitey. Or maybe some reference to the fact that he's "owned" by the white team owners. If the latter, I think that's fine tbh. There is something kind of weird to me about how white team owners trade black sportsball folks around like prize livestock and no one bats an eye because sportsball.

maybe they toned it down some.
They did because Peele didn't write or direct.

Look I am not some Peele defender by any means, I have never actually LIKED anything he's done, but can people who didn't see the movie stop arguing about the nuance and symbolism of the movie?
 
There is something kind of weird to me about how white team owners trade black sportsball folks around like prize livestock and no one bats an eye because sportsball.
It's because it's a stupid point and when Colin Kaepernick tried to make it he was generally called stupid too for acting like pro sports (never hockey of course) is somehow on any level analogous to slavery.
 
Monster clowns are stale. Art the Clown is ridiculous to the point of being boring, and I'm getting so bored of Pennywise, that I sort of... can't be arsed with Welcome to Derry. As much as I get exasperated by people sucking off Tim Curry's rendition, at least he didn't resort to Bill Grey as much as Bill Skarsgård. At least, I don't think he did.

I'm not even creeped out by clowns, but the only clown-based horror movie to unsettle me, even slightly, was Clown (2014), where they had a poor sod be slowly possessed by this demon from German mythology (made for the film, supposedly based on an Idlirvirissong, an evil spirit from Greenland and Baffin Island), called a Clöyne, and become a danger to the kids who were around him at parties - including his own son.

And I'll tell you another thing: John Wayne Gacy is burned into peoples' psyches for being Bozo the Clown, even to the point where a few, let's say horror-biopics, were made, as far as I know, about how frightening he was in that costume, but I'd be much more frightened if I were that early 20-something year old twink, who was very lucky to narrowly escape being raped (and likely murdered) by his boss. A friend of his, or, simply someone who worked at the same place, wasn't so lucky.
 
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I saw The Long Walk and I really liked it. I liked how it managed to be impressive for a dystopian movie as the mundane nature of the walk makes you see how exhausting and torturous it really is especially with how those in power take advantage of the self interest in people's desire to get out of a bad situation to make them all go against each other.

The suicide by the asshole kid was probably the most effective
 
I saw The Long Walk and I really liked it. I liked how it managed to be impressive for a dystopian movie as the mundane nature of the walk makes you see how exhausting and torturous it really is especially with how those in power take advantage of the self interest in people's desire to get out of a bad situation to make them all go against each other.

The suicide by the asshole kid was probably the most effective
The idea is cool but a nigger main character puts me off.
 
It's because it's a stupid point and when Colin Kaepernick tried to make it he was generally called stupid too for acting like pro sports (never hockey of course) is somehow on any level analogous to slavery.
I'm saying I personally think it's weird, as someone who doesn't watch or enjoy sports. Not analogous to slavery, but weird. A lot of fodder there to come up with some cool horror scenarios and Him didn't follow through.

can't be arsed with Welcome to Derry
I wouldn't be surprised if the show is not very successful, despite the success of the films. The first IT film in the remake duology came out almost 10 years ago. The sequel already kind of explains everything you need to know about ITs origins and motivations. We know that IT won't be beaten since IT's obviously going strong in the first film. The only draw is "look it's Bill as Pennywise again" and idk if that's enough.
 
Is any one else making nostalgia documentaries with minor film actors talking about their roles?
The ones that are DVD special features. Maybe some have popped up on YouTube. I'd expect anything vomited directly onto a streaming service to be some kind of agitprop, but I don't keep up.

And I'll tell you another thing: John Wayne Gacy is burned into peoples' psyches for being Bozo the Clown,
Clowns entered our collective cultural memory due to incursions by blood-sucking space monsters. Much like vampires.
 
I'm saying I personally think it's weird, as someone who doesn't watch or enjoy sports. Not analogous to slavery, but weird. A lot of fodder there to come up with some cool horror scenarios and Him didn't follow through.


I wouldn't be surprised if the show is not very successful, despite the success of the films. The first IT film in the remake duology came out almost 10 years ago. The sequel already kind of explains everything you need to know about ITs origins and motivations. We know that IT won't be beaten since IT's obviously going strong in the first film. The only draw is "look it's Bill as Pennywise again" and idk if that's enough.
I'd actually prefer a series based on the prologue to Chapter 1, that was left on the cutting room floor: IT in the late 1600s or early 1700s, lived in a woman's well, and talks her into letting him eat her baby son.

 
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