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BrunoMattei said:
I know tasers weren't a thing in 78
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Actually they were first developed as a prototype in 1969 as a way to replace using cattle prods to subdue rioters. As what's made to shock a full grown cow could and did potentially kill too many humans. the frist protoypes where field tested in 74 and were standard issue to most departments in 76.


but yeah going by all this, kills is a very love it or hate middle of the road film. With a gay couple now living in the Meyers house...that alone makes me think Hello? Rob Zombie? You're not the worst thing to happen to this franchise. I'll wait for the whole blumhouse trilogy to be on sale in dvd bin at walmart unless ends turns out to be mind blowingly good.
 
Halloween Kills was weird as fuck but I did really enjoy it overall. I do wish they would have kept the next one on the same night to keep the momentum going.
 
Just came back from seeing Kills and it was a really enjoyable movie. The music is really amazing and the scenes with Michael were the best stuff in the film.

However the whole mob justice subplot was really dumb especially with the escaped mental patient since all these people would've known what Michael actually looks like especially since his mugshot was shown on TV in the same movie as well. It really dragged down the film, and the subplot should've been handled like that scene in the playground where Michael is killing all the people who are after him while they are scared at what a monster he truly is.

The Movie is a 7/10 mainly for the ending stuff and all the good stuff I mentioned earlier, but I am amazed at how packed the theatre was since there were some times that were sold out.

horrorfan89 said:
Actually they were first developed as a prototype in 1969 as a way to replace using cattle prods to subdue rioters. As what's made to shock a full grown cow could and did potentially kill too many humans. the frist protoypes where field tested in 74 and were standard issue to most departments in 76.


but yeah going by all this, kills is a very love it or hate middle of the road film. With a gay couple now living in the Meyers house...that alone makes me think Hello? Rob Zombie? You're not the worst thing to happen to this franchise. I'll wait for the whole blumhouse trilogy to be on sale in dvd bin at walmart unless ends turns out to be mind blowingly good.
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To be fair the gay people are exactly the type of people who'd buy a house that used to be a crime scene since they use it as bragging rights to scare people off and they also died very gory deaths which were fun.
 
I'm glad Halloween Kills didn't waste time with some bullshit plot. I don't want Shakespeare or gay cowboys eating pudding in my slasher movies. I want slashing. The movie was Michael doing what he does best.

Getting rid of bloated municipal payroll leeches. Patrolling thots. Punishing people for miscegenation. Teaching unruly mobs a lesson. Cleansing the community of degenerate fags. Michael was pretty based.

The score was top notch too.
 
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Has anyone seen the Elvira 40th anniversary special yet? and can you tell me if it's any good? Hard to believe Cassandra Peterson actually WAS 40 in that commercial and is friggin 70 now 0-0. Like damn what the hell is IN that Hollywood fountain of youth and how did someone like her get access to it?
 
I liked Halloween Kills for what it was, but it isn't very good at being a Halloween film. Part 4 and even part 6 actually have the Halloween atmosphere which is something that Kills (and the first Blumoween) fails at despite snatching up damn near every living cast member that survived in the original. I think the Blumoweens are better than any sequels that came after part 4, but David Gordon Green clearly doesn't understand what makes the early films work as well as they do. Michael in full murder machine mode was fun, but I wish the supporting cast weren't saddled with Prometheus level bouts of retardation to make it happen. TL;DR: It's a fun movie, but it isn't a good representation of what I like about the Halloween films.
 
F_Break said:
I liked Halloween Kills for what it was, but it isn't very good at being a Halloween film. Part 4 and even part 6 actually have the Halloween atmosphere which is something that Kills (and the first Blumoween) fails at despite snatching up damn near every living cast member that survived in the original. I think the Blumoweens are better than any sequels that came after part 4, but David Gordon Green clearly doesn't understand what makes the early films work as well as they do. Michael in full murder machine mode was fun, but I wish the supporting cast weren't saddled with Prometheus level bouts of retardation to make it happen. TL;DR: It's a fun movie, but it isn't a good representation of what I like about the Halloween films.
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I actually disagree. I quite like the atmosphere of the Blumhouse films.

If you wanna see a Halloween movie with no atmosphere, it's H20 all the way.
 
Gaear Grimsrud said:
I actually disagree. I quite like the atmosphere of the Blumhouse films.

If you wanna see a Halloween movie with no atmosphere, it's H20 all the way.
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H20 has atmosphere but it was transplanted from Scream along with the tone and score. I still kind of like the Blumhouse films, but there's still something "off" about them that makes it feel like they put the Halloween characters into a completely different franchise.
 
F_Break said:
H20 has atmosphere but it was transplanted from Scream along with the tone and score. I still kind of like the Blumhouse films, but there's still something "off" about them that makes it feel like they put the Halloween characters into a completely different franchise.
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I think perhaps it could be that the movies feel more like Halloween reunion films perhaps? That's sorta what I get from the Blumhouse films.
 
I watched some horror franchises recently but I haven't seen all of them yet because they are getting too terrible.

Children of the Corn - I was able to plow through six of these, but I've heard terrible things about the 2000s era ones so I haven't seen those yet. I probably need alcohol to soldier through the rest. Surprisingly, this was the most watchable franchise overall because it had a fair amount of gore and entertaining, if stupid, plots. The plot to Urban Harvest was especially hilarious because I loved the idea of shipping demonic corn around the world so that He Who Walks Behind the Rows could take over. The first one is obviously the best, but the sequels didn't become unwatchable until I saw the fifth one. Even David Carradine couldn't save that one.

Jaws - The first one deserves its title as a classic but the rest become more and more terrible with each sequel. Jaws 2 was merely boring. Jaws 3D had all of the cheesy effects that you'd expect from a 3D movie. Jaws: The Revenge, however, was a crapsterpiece. This was the period when Michael Caine would appear in any film if a studio threw enough money at him, and the whole premise of a shark having a grudge was hilariously stupid. There are also hardly any deaths so you can't even appreciate it for the gore. I don't know if you ever played the LJN Jaws game (don't, because it sucks) but it was based on this film because you mostly collect conch shells and then kill the shark with your ship's bowsprit. The shark in the last film managed to look worse than any of the others combined, too.

Tremors - I managed to get through the first three films so far. The first film was great even with its PG-13 rating, but the sequels show a precipitous drop in quality. I wouldn't even recommend watching them for laughs because they are mostly forgettable. The plot twists in the sequels revolve around the Graboids revealing new forms in their life cycle, but the special effects budgets were too poor to make them look good. They managed to get Fred Ward (who played Kevin Bacon's sidekick in the first film) for Tremors 2, but he bowed out after that and you're left with the Michael Gross gun nut character as the lead for Tremors 3.
 
Saw this trailer for The black Phone (funny enough before watching a trailer for BEN 1972)


It shows promise, It looks like it's set in the 70s though going by the outfits on the kids, coulda sworn the killer was Joaquin Phoenix not Ethan Hawke though. and it REALLLY looks like it's trying to rip of IT even though it's been almost 5 years since the first IT remake the novelty's kinda worn off. Still despite that the idea of a killer's past victims trying to help the latest escape from beyond the grave is a neat idea.


Unfortunately it's release date doesn't bode well, February 4th Not as bad as January but still a month that tells Universal/Blumhouse doesn't have much faith in this film. though the fact that they have Halloween kills out this month could also be a factor. Didn't want the two films competing for attention.
 
I miss when I was super into horror in 06-08, listening to Deadpit Radio every week and constantly being exposed to new-to-me classics like The Burning and Madman. I'd have lost my mind over how violent Halloween Kills was.
 
Just re-watched Rob Zombie's Halloween. People give Rob way too much flack for the remakes (moreso the second) but really I can appreciate what he did especially with the first. He didn't just rehash the original frame for frame the way gus van sandt did with psycho 98. He hit the right story beats and added in just enough of his own touch to make something unique.

Even when it retells the Carpenter movie events and story beats are shifted around or even omitted. Like Linda and Bob getting killed in the Myers house as opposed to the Wallace house before Annie is attacked and she survives too

Also While nobody can ever truly replace Donald Pleasance as Loomis Malcom McDowell did a decent enough job. Not mention Michael is fucking brutal in this one. You can hear the knife as it stabs and cuts people and I swear I can hear bones snapping a few times I swear Blumhouse must have taken some inspiration from this Michael given how in the last two new movies he's crushed a guys face in with his foot, thrown people around and gone fucking savage on them. Tyler mane did such a great job as Michael that i personally think he really should play Jason if they ever get around to making a new movie soon.
 
horrorfan89 said:
Just re-watched Rob Zombie's Halloween. People give Rob way too much flack for the remakes (moreso the second) but really I can appreciate what he did especially with the first. He didn't just rehash the original frame for frame the way gus van sandt did with psycho 98. He hit the right story beats and added in just enough of his own touch to make something unique.

Even when it retells the Carpenter movie events and story beats are shifted around or even omitted. Like Linda and Bob getting killed in the Myers house as opposed to the Wallace house before Annie is attacked and she survives too

Also While nobody can ever truly replace Donald Pleasance as Loomis Malcom McDowell did a decent enough job. Not mention Michael is fucking brutal in this one. You can hear the knife as it stabs and cuts people and I swear I can hear bones snapping a few times I swear Blumhouse must have taken some inspiration from this Michael given how in the last two new movies he's crushed a guys face in with his foot, thrown people around and gone fucking savage on them. Tyler mane did such a great job as Michael that i personally think he really should play Jason if they ever get around to making a new movie soon.
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I kind of agree with boomerfan69. The Rob Zombie movies were at least unique and unapologetically nasty. They had that going for them and didn't rely too heavily on memberberries (aside from the "Was that the Boogieman?" line which was pure cringe). I don't know where I'd rank them in the pantheon of Halloween movies (soon to be 13 in total when Halloween Ends comes out).
 
Zelos Wilder said:
A friend of mine has been getting really into Japanese horror and has suggested I watch Takashi Miikes movie Ichi the Killer. Anyone wanna vouch for the movie or Takashi?
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check out everything already mentioned here, plus his episode for Masters of Horror was fun, if a bit crammed since everything had to be told in a half hour.
 
horrorfan89 said:
Saw this trailer for The black Phone (funny enough before watching a trailer for BEN 1972)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3eGP6im8AZA
It shows promise, It looks like it's set in the 70s though going by the outfits on the kids, coulda sworn the killer was Joaquin Phoenix not Ethan Hawke though. and it REALLLY looks like it's trying to rip of IT even though it's been almost 5 years since the first IT remake the novelty's kinda worn off. Still despite that the idea of a killer's past victims trying to help the latest escape from beyond the grave is a neat idea.


Unfortunately it's release date doesn't bode well, February 4th Not as bad as January but still a month that tells Universal/Blumhouse doesn't have much faith in this film. though the fact that they have Halloween kills out this month could also be a factor. Didn't want the two films competing for attention.
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The first thing I think of when I see that dudes mask is London After Midnight.
 
horrorfan89 said:
Saw this trailer for The black Phone (funny enough before watching a trailer for BEN 1972)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3eGP6im8AZA
It shows promise, It looks like it's set in the 70s though going by the outfits on the kids, coulda sworn the killer was Joaquin Phoenix not Ethan Hawke though. and it REALLLY looks like it's trying to rip of IT even though it's been almost 5 years since the first IT remake the novelty's kinda worn off. Still despite that the idea of a killer's past victims trying to help the latest escape from beyond the grave is a neat idea.


Unfortunately it's release date doesn't bode well, February 4th Not as bad as January but still a month that tells Universal/Blumhouse doesn't have much faith in this film. though the fact that they have Halloween kills out this month could also be a factor. Didn't want the two films competing for attention.
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Already a few reviews out for this one as it was screened at Fantastic Fest, overall early reviews are good.

But February is pretty packed looking at it, Got Moonfall the new Roland Emmerich movie and Jackass 4 the same weekend as it, Death on the Nile, Uncharted and Micheal Bay's Ambulance the weeks after it.
 
We watched Halloween Kills last night and holy shit you guys were right on how bad it was. It didn't quite feel "woke" to me though I did mention that a middle of nowhere tiny Illinois hick town had a lot of black people.

The kills were good though. Jamie Lee Curtis and thats his face who played Officer Hawkins rambling through half the movie about MUH 40 YEARS AGO, I'M TO BLAME got fucking annoying very quickly and should have been cut. Anthony Michael Hall's character could have been completely cut out and nothing would have been lost from the film. The kid in the dress should have been murdered way earlier. I hate how current media presents garbage like this as if it's normal and fine, like how the 2018 version had that kid whining about wanting to take ballet classes.
 
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