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Why do you need testosterone for that? :S
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I can say I used more sterile procedures inoculating an artificial mushroom culture to grow some oyster mushrooms.
However, most people also don't have lab-grade equipment they have slowly accumulated over the years as things were "retired" from the lab.
But, if they are going to do shit like this, they should have at least this level of equipment or better.
How else are you going to have the strength to perf their rectum?
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Wow unbelievably high standards, they're better than literal methheads! What's next, bronze age conditions?
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Yes, the bar is being set a bit too low, IMO.
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The Mariana's trench is low, this is beyond fucked. This is marketed to children. Why are the Feds sleeping on the wheel? People have been tracked down and locked up for a lot less than this. The longer it goes on, the saner shit like Q anon actually sounds. They make Alex Jones look like he reaches all the reasonable conclusions.
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Damn, this thread blew up. I fully support TeaHRT's decision to sell kits. It's better profit margins for less work, and it removes some liability if they let the customer contaminate the product with their own vinegar.
One of my most anticipated events in the transgender saga is the epidemic of thirtysomething men with osteoporosis.
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this is probably very late and has been said before, but there's nothing stopping these people from slipping addictive substances in their troonshine, right?
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I know very little about chemistry, but quite a bit about business. I would not classify this as a ripoff. Anabolics have way higher demand and a stable recurring customer base, so you move more merchandise and can sell cheaper.
He will be selling way less E than T injections. E has a smaller market share and can easily be sourced in legitimate ways. "I'm a person of gender" gets you an E prescription, but basically no amount of testosterone deficiency will not get you TRT unless you're already losing bone mass (or carefully doctor shopping and willing to pay the premium of a "wellness clinic").
Unlike testosterone, and that's very important, you can also take E orally. Which means trannies can just pop birth control pills. (I mean you could also take T orally but you get very little in the blood while badly straining your spleen iirc).
Add a premium for having to go through all that effort of the online shop and payments thing, who knows how much he has to pay to launder that money, and it's a modest margin for the effort.
They always do, cybercrime vendors always either stop with a bust, or with an exit rip (often camouflaged as having been busted).
They already don't care about the law, they already don't care about morals, and they have already set up a criminal enterprise.
Though trannies are narcissists. Their anonymous legacy might be more important in this special case here.
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The people selling it don't care because nobody cares if troons get poisoned.
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That's like slipping Adderal to a Zoomer
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Some interesting news:
https://old.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/1gw9ntt/did_dashpct_get_shut_down/ [Archive]
This is the first I've heard of DashPCT, but it sounds like they're another DIY HRT vendor that's possibly being shut down - although they're putting up a fight.
Someone in the Reddit thread posted an FDA warning letter from earlier this year:
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-com...warning-letters/wwwdashpctcom-679727-04242024
Troons are concerned about the recent increase in shutdowns:
And they recommend moving over to Signal for private communication about DIY HRT. They also seem to be blaming KF, lol.
DashPCT still seems to be active for now. They're hopping domains and communicating this over Telegram, apparently.
And yep, they're blaming KF - even though DashPCT hasn't been mentioned here before.
Anyway, it's good to hear that the FDA/government has these DIY HRT sites on their radar.
The troons have brought this on themselves, as far as I'm concerned. Most people wouldn't care at all if it was only adult troons shooting up dubious DIY hormones, but no... they always try and push it on kids as well. Reap what you've sown!
Semi-related:
Yesterday, Turkey allegedly banned over-the-counter sales of hormones without a prescription.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/1gvyc68/turkey_banned_otc_sale_of_e_and_t_what_countries/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/1gw9ntt/did_dashpct_get_shut_down/ [Archive]
This is the first I've heard of DashPCT, but it sounds like they're another DIY HRT vendor that's possibly being shut down - although they're putting up a fight.
Someone in the Reddit thread posted an FDA warning letter from earlier this year:
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-com...warning-letters/wwwdashpctcom-679727-04242024
Recipient: www.dashpct.com
Malaysia
Issuing Office: Center for Drug Evaluation and Research | CDER
United States
FROM: The United States Food and Drug Administration
RE: Notice of Unlawful Sale of Unapproved and Misbranded Drugs to United States Consumers Over the Internet
DATE: April 24, 2024
WARNING LETTER
This is to advise you that the United States (U.S.) Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently reviewed your website at the Internet address www.dashpct.com and has observed that your website introduces into interstate commerce misbranded and unapproved new drugs in violation of sections 301(a), 301(d), 503(b), and 505(a) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act) [21 U.S.C. §§ 331(a), 331(d), 353(b), and 355(a)].
As discussed below, FDA has observed that www.dashpct.com introduces into interstate commerce unapproved and misbranded semaglutide drug products. There are inherent risks to consumers who purchase unapproved new drugs and misbranded drugs. Unapproved new drugs do not carry the same assurances of safety and effectiveness as those drugs subject to FDA oversight. Drugs that have circumvented regulatory safeguards may be contaminated, counterfeit, contain varying amounts of active ingredients, or contain different ingredients altogether. Accordingly, FDA requests that www.dashpct.com cease offering any unapproved and misbranded drugs for sale to U.S. consumers. This is critical to protect the public from harm.
Unapproved New Drugs:
Certain products offered for sale by www.dashpct.com are drugs within the meaning of section 201(g) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)] because they are intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease and/or because they are intended to affect the structure or function of the body. These drugs are also new drugs as defined by section 201(p) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)], because they are not generally recognized as safe and effective for their labeled uses. With certain exceptions not applicable here, new drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from FDA, as described in section 505(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]. No approved applications pursuant to section 505 of the FD&C Act are in effect for these products. Accordingly, their introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce violates sections 301(d) [21 U.S.C. § 331(d)] and 505(a) of the FD&C Act.
For example, www.dashpct.com offers semaglutide drug products marketed as “Rybelsus 14mg” and “Rybelsus 7mg.” Your website states “Rybelsus is a brand‐name prescription medication that’s FDA‐approved to treat type 2 diabetes. The drug helps control blood sugar in adults when used with diet and exercise. Type 2 diabetes is a condition in which your blood sugar level becomes too high due to problems with a hormone called insulin.” While there are FDA‐approved versions of semaglutide, including Rybelsus tablets, on the market in the U.S., there are no approved drug applications pursuant to section 505 of the FD&C Act in effect for the “Rybelsus 14mg” and “Rybelsus 7mg” tablets manufactured by Novo Nordisk and offered by www.dashpct.com. Currently, other than Rybelsus tablets, there are two injectable semaglutide products FDA‐approved for the U.S. market and these products are only available pursuant to a prescription from a licensed practitioner. FDA‐approved semaglutide injection marketed under the brand name Ozempic is indicated as an adjunct to diet and exercise to improve glycemic control in individuals with type 2 diabetes mellitus and to reduce the risk of major adverse cardiovascular events in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus and established cardiovascular disease. FDA‐approved semaglutide injection marketed under the brand name Wegovy is indicated as an adjunct to a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity for chronic weight management in certain adult and pediatric patients. FDA‐approved semaglutide products bear a boxed warning, commonly referred to as a “black box warning,” which is the strongest warning FDA requires, indicating that the drug carries a significant risk of serious or even life‐threatening adverse effects. The boxed warning addresses the risk of thyroid C‐cell tumors.
Misbranded Drugs:
A drug is misbranded under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 352(f)(1)] if its labeling fails to bear adequate directions for use. “Adequate directions for use” means directions under which a layperson can use a drug safely and for the purposes for which it is intended (see 21 CFR 201.5). Prescription drugs, as defined in section 503(b)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 353(b)(1)] include those that, because of their toxicity or other potentiality for harmful effect, or the method of their use, or the collateral measures necessary for their use, are not safe for use except under supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to administer them. Prescription drugs, as defined in section 503(b)(1) of the FD&C Act, can be used safely only at the direction, and under the supervision, of a licensed practitioner.
Because the aforementioned drugs are prescription drugs intended for conditions that are not amenable to self-diagnosis and treatment by a layperson, adequate directions cannot be written such that a layperson can use the products safely for their intended use. Consequently, the labeling for these drugs fails to bear adequate directions for use, causing them to be misbranded under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act. In addition, because the drugs are not approved in the U.S., they are also not exempt under 21 CFR 201.115(a) from the requirements of section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act. By offering these drugs for sale to U.S. consumers, www.dashpct.com is causing the introduction of misbranded drugs into interstate commerce in violation of section 301(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 331(a)].
FDA is sending this warning letter to www.dashpct.com because of the inherent risks to consumers who purchase misbranded and unapproved new drugs. This letter is not intended to identify all the ways in which your products or operations might be in violation of the law. It is your responsibility to ensure that all products you offer for sale are in compliance with the FD&C Act and its implementing regulations. You should take prompt action to address any violations of the FD&C Act (which may include the offer for sale of similarly misbranded and/or unapproved new drugs other than the drugs noted above). We advise you to review your websites, product labels, and other labeling and promotional materials to ensure that you are not misleadingly representing your products as safe and effective for a use for which they have not been approved by FDA and that you are not distributing misbranded products in violation of the FD&C Act.
Please notify this office in writing within 15 working days describing the specific steps you have taken to address any violations and to prevent their recurrence. Include an explanation of each step being taken to remedy and prevent the recurrence of any violations, as well as copies of related documentation. Failure to adequately address this matter may result in legal action, including, without limitation, seizure and injunction, without further notice. If you cannot complete corrective action within 15 working days, state the reason for the delay and the time within which you will complete the corrections. This letter notifies you of our concerns and provides you with an opportunity to address them. If you believe that your products are not in violation of the FD&C Act, include your reasoning and any supporting information for our consideration within 15 working days.
If you are not located in the U.S., please note that products that appear to be misbranded or unapproved new drugs may be detained or refused admission. We may advise the appropriate regulatory officials in the country from which you operate that your products referenced above appear to be unapproved and misbranded products that cannot be legally sold to consumers in the U.S.
Please direct your response and any inquiries to FDA at FDAInternetPharmacyTaskForce‐CDER@fda.hhs.gov.
Sincerely,
S. Leigh Verbois, Ph.D.
Director, Office of Drug Security, Integrity, and Response
Office of Compliance
Center for Drug Evaluation and Research
Malaysia
Issuing Office: Center for Drug Evaluation and Research | CDER
United States
FROM: The United States Food and Drug Administration
RE: Notice of Unlawful Sale of Unapproved and Misbranded Drugs to United States Consumers Over the Internet
DATE: April 24, 2024
WARNING LETTER
This is to advise you that the United States (U.S.) Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently reviewed your website at the Internet address www.dashpct.com and has observed that your website introduces into interstate commerce misbranded and unapproved new drugs in violation of sections 301(a), 301(d), 503(b), and 505(a) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act) [21 U.S.C. §§ 331(a), 331(d), 353(b), and 355(a)].
As discussed below, FDA has observed that www.dashpct.com introduces into interstate commerce unapproved and misbranded semaglutide drug products. There are inherent risks to consumers who purchase unapproved new drugs and misbranded drugs. Unapproved new drugs do not carry the same assurances of safety and effectiveness as those drugs subject to FDA oversight. Drugs that have circumvented regulatory safeguards may be contaminated, counterfeit, contain varying amounts of active ingredients, or contain different ingredients altogether. Accordingly, FDA requests that www.dashpct.com cease offering any unapproved and misbranded drugs for sale to U.S. consumers. This is critical to protect the public from harm.
Unapproved New Drugs:
Certain products offered for sale by www.dashpct.com are drugs within the meaning of section 201(g) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)] because they are intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease and/or because they are intended to affect the structure or function of the body. These drugs are also new drugs as defined by section 201(p) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)], because they are not generally recognized as safe and effective for their labeled uses. With certain exceptions not applicable here, new drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from FDA, as described in section 505(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]. No approved applications pursuant to section 505 of the FD&C Act are in effect for these products. Accordingly, their introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce violates sections 301(d) [21 U.S.C. § 331(d)] and 505(a) of the FD&C Act.
For example, www.dashpct.com offers semaglutide drug products marketed as “Rybelsus 14mg” and “Rybelsus 7mg.” Your website states “Rybelsus is a brand‐name prescription medication that’s FDA‐approved to treat type 2 diabetes. The drug helps control blood sugar in adults when used with diet and exercise. Type 2 diabetes is a condition in which your blood sugar level becomes too high due to problems with a hormone called insulin.” While there are FDA‐approved versions of semaglutide, including Rybelsus tablets, on the market in the U.S., there are no approved drug applications pursuant to section 505 of the FD&C Act in effect for the “Rybelsus 14mg” and “Rybelsus 7mg” tablets manufactured by Novo Nordisk and offered by www.dashpct.com. Currently, other than Rybelsus tablets, there are two injectable semaglutide products FDA‐approved for the U.S. market and these products are only available pursuant to a prescription from a licensed practitioner. FDA‐approved semaglutide injection marketed under the brand name Ozempic is indicated as an adjunct to diet and exercise to improve glycemic control in individuals with type 2 diabetes mellitus and to reduce the risk of major adverse cardiovascular events in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus and established cardiovascular disease. FDA‐approved semaglutide injection marketed under the brand name Wegovy is indicated as an adjunct to a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity for chronic weight management in certain adult and pediatric patients. FDA‐approved semaglutide products bear a boxed warning, commonly referred to as a “black box warning,” which is the strongest warning FDA requires, indicating that the drug carries a significant risk of serious or even life‐threatening adverse effects. The boxed warning addresses the risk of thyroid C‐cell tumors.
Misbranded Drugs:
A drug is misbranded under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 352(f)(1)] if its labeling fails to bear adequate directions for use. “Adequate directions for use” means directions under which a layperson can use a drug safely and for the purposes for which it is intended (see 21 CFR 201.5). Prescription drugs, as defined in section 503(b)(1) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 353(b)(1)] include those that, because of their toxicity or other potentiality for harmful effect, or the method of their use, or the collateral measures necessary for their use, are not safe for use except under supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to administer them. Prescription drugs, as defined in section 503(b)(1) of the FD&C Act, can be used safely only at the direction, and under the supervision, of a licensed practitioner.
Because the aforementioned drugs are prescription drugs intended for conditions that are not amenable to self-diagnosis and treatment by a layperson, adequate directions cannot be written such that a layperson can use the products safely for their intended use. Consequently, the labeling for these drugs fails to bear adequate directions for use, causing them to be misbranded under section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act. In addition, because the drugs are not approved in the U.S., they are also not exempt under 21 CFR 201.115(a) from the requirements of section 502(f)(1) of the FD&C Act. By offering these drugs for sale to U.S. consumers, www.dashpct.com is causing the introduction of misbranded drugs into interstate commerce in violation of section 301(a) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 331(a)].
FDA is sending this warning letter to www.dashpct.com because of the inherent risks to consumers who purchase misbranded and unapproved new drugs. This letter is not intended to identify all the ways in which your products or operations might be in violation of the law. It is your responsibility to ensure that all products you offer for sale are in compliance with the FD&C Act and its implementing regulations. You should take prompt action to address any violations of the FD&C Act (which may include the offer for sale of similarly misbranded and/or unapproved new drugs other than the drugs noted above). We advise you to review your websites, product labels, and other labeling and promotional materials to ensure that you are not misleadingly representing your products as safe and effective for a use for which they have not been approved by FDA and that you are not distributing misbranded products in violation of the FD&C Act.
Please notify this office in writing within 15 working days describing the specific steps you have taken to address any violations and to prevent their recurrence. Include an explanation of each step being taken to remedy and prevent the recurrence of any violations, as well as copies of related documentation. Failure to adequately address this matter may result in legal action, including, without limitation, seizure and injunction, without further notice. If you cannot complete corrective action within 15 working days, state the reason for the delay and the time within which you will complete the corrections. This letter notifies you of our concerns and provides you with an opportunity to address them. If you believe that your products are not in violation of the FD&C Act, include your reasoning and any supporting information for our consideration within 15 working days.
If you are not located in the U.S., please note that products that appear to be misbranded or unapproved new drugs may be detained or refused admission. We may advise the appropriate regulatory officials in the country from which you operate that your products referenced above appear to be unapproved and misbranded products that cannot be legally sold to consumers in the U.S.
Please direct your response and any inquiries to FDA at FDAInternetPharmacyTaskForce‐CDER@fda.hhs.gov.
Sincerely,
S. Leigh Verbois, Ph.D.
Director, Office of Drug Security, Integrity, and Response
Office of Compliance
Center for Drug Evaluation and Research
Troons are concerned about the recent increase in shutdowns:
And they recommend moving over to Signal for private communication about DIY HRT. They also seem to be blaming KF, lol.
DashPCT still seems to be active for now. They're hopping domains and communicating this over Telegram, apparently.
And yep, they're blaming KF - even though DashPCT hasn't been mentioned here before.
Anyway, it's good to hear that the FDA/government has these DIY HRT sites on their radar.
The troons have brought this on themselves, as far as I'm concerned. Most people wouldn't care at all if it was only adult troons shooting up dubious DIY hormones, but no... they always try and push it on kids as well. Reap what you've sown!
Semi-related:
Yesterday, Turkey allegedly banned over-the-counter sales of hormones without a prescription.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/1gvyc68/turkey_banned_otc_sale_of_e_and_t_what_countries/ [Archive]
Google translate:
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SpartialBoa
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I don't want to sound like i'm defending what they're doing, but I don't think a lot of people here really get what goes into homebrewing steroids, either testosterone or estrogen like they are.
This really isn't new in the world of troonshine, nor in anabolics. Obviously it caught the attention of people but I don't really see anything out of the ordinary, a good amount of people already make this stuff themselves in their garage. I'd guess that more estrogen (and certainly testosterone) comes from small labs without websites than from any of these online sellers.
Coming from the perspective of anabolics, some of the setups I see for troonshine are actually much better than the ones that I see in back ally anabolic shops. Anabolics seem more focused on just making money vs the hero complex a lot of tranners have. That and the higher premium they can charge likely due to a smaller market. The TeaHRT kits would make like 50 vials for a selling price of 300$. That's a lot worse than the money they'd make on selling premade vials. I don't think they're doing this for the sole sake of making money, I think they just want the glory or attention that comes from getting others to do the same thing.
Overall brewing estrogen or testosterone is not a complicated process. It is essentially just mixing things together without too much dust ingress, and then filtering and dispensing it into vials under a flow hood. There's no chemistry involved here, nothing is being synthesized, none of these chemicals are changing forms. That being said you need a lot of space and preperation to do it, it's not something that's easily hideable. If you can bake cookies you can make these vials, it's not complicated.
As far as raws testing, most raws come back fairly clean for testosterone and worse for more expensive/harder to produce steroids like dianabol, winstrol, and boldenone often coming from a harder synthesis route or just rarity.
Gleaning from some of the estrogen sellers jano testing, their powder also seems fairly high quality, which makes sense as the synth route is as easy as testosterone and it's already a widely used medicine. 98%+ or so from what I could see on those tests with likely degradation products being just hydrolysis of the ester tail into the respective carboxcylic acid and freebase form, both of which are fairly inert.
I don't mean to shit on the parade of people here but what they're doing isn't particularly dangerous, at least no more dangerous than a smart roidhead cooking their own steroid batches, and defintely way safer than the retard you see in this video.
What they're compounding in their troonshine is exactly what you're going to find in any pharmaceutical compound, except maybe switching the carrier oil from castor/GSO to MCT, of which has been used in anabolics anyway forever. This isn't a DEA issue, and it's hardly an FDA issue. Janoshik is a legitimate lab that's been around forever, and he's well known. He's certainly no hack and if he could be bought, it wouldn't be by these people, i'd be by a large anabolic OP doing millions a year.
If you want to go after people trooning kids you're better off keeping an eye on your kids elementary school teachers, therapists and doctors and watch what they do online over this tiny subset of people. None of em are actually cooking plastic bags or using horse piss, they're just mixing imported powder and a few liquids together.
This really isn't new in the world of troonshine, nor in anabolics. Obviously it caught the attention of people but I don't really see anything out of the ordinary, a good amount of people already make this stuff themselves in their garage. I'd guess that more estrogen (and certainly testosterone) comes from small labs without websites than from any of these online sellers.
Coming from the perspective of anabolics, some of the setups I see for troonshine are actually much better than the ones that I see in back ally anabolic shops. Anabolics seem more focused on just making money vs the hero complex a lot of tranners have. That and the higher premium they can charge likely due to a smaller market. The TeaHRT kits would make like 50 vials for a selling price of 300$. That's a lot worse than the money they'd make on selling premade vials. I don't think they're doing this for the sole sake of making money, I think they just want the glory or attention that comes from getting others to do the same thing.
Overall brewing estrogen or testosterone is not a complicated process. It is essentially just mixing things together without too much dust ingress, and then filtering and dispensing it into vials under a flow hood. There's no chemistry involved here, nothing is being synthesized, none of these chemicals are changing forms. That being said you need a lot of space and preperation to do it, it's not something that's easily hideable. If you can bake cookies you can make these vials, it's not complicated.
As far as raws testing, most raws come back fairly clean for testosterone and worse for more expensive/harder to produce steroids like dianabol, winstrol, and boldenone often coming from a harder synthesis route or just rarity.
Gleaning from some of the estrogen sellers jano testing, their powder also seems fairly high quality, which makes sense as the synth route is as easy as testosterone and it's already a widely used medicine. 98%+ or so from what I could see on those tests with likely degradation products being just hydrolysis of the ester tail into the respective carboxcylic acid and freebase form, both of which are fairly inert.
I don't mean to shit on the parade of people here but what they're doing isn't particularly dangerous, at least no more dangerous than a smart roidhead cooking their own steroid batches, and defintely way safer than the retard you see in this video.
What they're compounding in their troonshine is exactly what you're going to find in any pharmaceutical compound, except maybe switching the carrier oil from castor/GSO to MCT, of which has been used in anabolics anyway forever. This isn't a DEA issue, and it's hardly an FDA issue. Janoshik is a legitimate lab that's been around forever, and he's well known. He's certainly no hack and if he could be bought, it wouldn't be by these people, i'd be by a large anabolic OP doing millions a year.
If you want to go after people trooning kids you're better off keeping an eye on your kids elementary school teachers, therapists and doctors and watch what they do online over this tiny subset of people. None of em are actually cooking plastic bags or using horse piss, they're just mixing imported powder and a few liquids together.
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SpartialBoa
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This isn't a great 1:1 comparison, these are nonaqeuous solutions of oil with preservative whereas you're talking about cultivating live spores. I know someone *cough* who's done both and it's not comparable.
In academics you first learn the basics of all this, sterilization methods, overkill everything, you never learn exceptions to the rule. Like chess, it's not a general good idea to move the same piece twice in the opening, but there are times when you break principles. Same thing here applies.
There's plenty of reasons to hate the troons, sleeping on it, I don't think them learning what a pharmacy student or even a tech would learn in their first few weeks is a good one though.
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I can say at least some of the jano reports are either complete bullshit the troon photochopped up, or the results were just made up by jano and no testing was ever done. The ratios and purities they are reporting are fantastically unlikely except for production by actual pharmaceutical companies. The raws they are using, and the other chemicals they are sourcing, are generally not pharmaceutical grade. If they were, there is no way they could charge what they are asking for what they are selling unless they really are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts that are (almost literally) bursting with vegetative endocarditis. As such, they should be full of all sorts of traces of various steps in their synthesis process as well as garbage from off-target reactions unless for some strange reason they really only give a crap about the last step and actually do the best recrystalization/recondensation that they could possibly do. But, I highly doubt that is what we are seeing. Either the reports are bullshit, or the shit they are using is far better quality than it seems (which I just find so unlikely) and the real risk is their last step where they decide to use a bunch of non-pharmaceutical grade ingredients in their 3rd world kitchen.
Some of the jano reports I have seen I would doubt are actually fake, since it is exactly what I would except given what was supposedly submitted. So, I think at least some of those reports aren't total shit. However, I think the ratio of actual reports vs. made up bullshit is almost impossible to say since no one is getting a secondary verification, or if they are, they are keeping their mouths shut because it would be bad for business. Given the confidence expressed by many in Jano, I would suspect that the troons are literally taking other people's qual reports and photochopping them to say what they want. If so, Jano really needs to think about stomping on these retards for trying to fuck with their business.
SpartialBoa
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You can type the code for the jano testing they have into jano's website to confirm that it's legitimate. Jano has been around for dummy long, far beyond when these people started getting their stuff tested, so that lines up to a fairly decent product compared to anabolics that you'll find elsewhere and I don't see a giant epidemic of dying bodybuilders from bad gear. Not that that doesn't happen, just typically not for well known roids like test/nandrolone, and you have to be a giant fucking retard to go that hard on steroids, don't make that mistake.
Compare the readouts with any results you'll find from steroid dealers on eroids, the only thing I can find wrong is that they don't appear to be using the best quality MCT oil and they're showing fatty acids that shouldn't be in heavily refined MCT.
If you think steroid dealers are doing any sort of recrystilization on their raws you're a delusional nigger. Go browse steroidology, anabolic minds, or anabolicsteroidfourms for how they're making gear. The raws that you can source from china usually arn't shit if they're used for legitimate pharma reasons. It's likely the same factories making these raws for legitimate pharma, the chinks just sell out the back door as well, and it's not hard to source if you can browse made-in-china. Not that I would know anything about that
The excipients you're going to find for this, even pharma grade, are not that expensive. You can google anything that goes into it and find USP/NF grade for not that much if you're buying at scale.
Lao Tzu said "there is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent"
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Wait back out a little.
Isn't it bizarre that people are allowed to sell chemical concoctions under the name "girlpotion", that people inject god-knows-what into their veins?
And people buy these then pretend to be uwu anime girls?
And we have to pretend they are real women, and always were women?
Isn't it bizarre that people are allowed to sell chemical concoctions under the name "girlpotion", that people inject god-knows-what into their veins?
And people buy these then pretend to be uwu anime girls?
And we have to pretend they are real women, and always were women?
SpartialBoa
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To sell? About as ridiculous as the people who end up selling anabolics online.
To pretend that they're real women? Absolutely. It's insanity that these faggots think that they can inject opposite sex hormones to grow pointy man tits and that we have to pretend that they're the same thing as women. I stay about 10 feet away from them at all times, and frankly I see women doing the same thing. It's not the hormones that will kill them, even if they buy them online. It's them realizing that they fucked up their body and mind permanently to the point of where no one except other raging faggots can even tolerate looking at them when they put a shotgun in their mouths.
Let nature take its course, trannies will end up a dying breed. Most Americans, even those who claim that they're tolerant of them are rightly disgusted by their actions. They'll end up killing themselves like anyone that joined that faggy emo cult in the 2010's
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Except they "reproduce" by love bombing and brainwashing children and getting them to destroy their bodies to compel them to turn into troons, and by that time, the sunk cost fallacy sinks in and makes it hard to realize the mistake they made, because it would be admitting they utterly ruined their health for no reason at all.
FedraGlow
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jano testing is know for faking tests lol
Plain_Jane
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Threads like this remind me of Romans 1 - it's not that these people are evil because they're tranny faggots, God lets them be tranny faggots because they're evil.