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she’s considering another presidential run, telling a New York City audience on Friday that she would be well suited to the office.

During a far-ranging interview with Kara Swisher of the technology website Recode(Ms. Swisher is also a contributor to The Times’s Opinion section), Mrs. Clinton initially said “no” when asked whether she wanted to run for president again. She then paused and repeated “no.”

But after Ms. Swisher noted the slight hesitation, Mrs. Clinton seemed to reconsider her response, saying that a major task of the next Democratic president will be improving the international standing of the United States.

“Well, I’d like to be president,” she said, during the public taping at the 92nd Street Y of Ms. Swisher’s podcast. "The work would be work that I feel very well prepared for having been at the Senate for eight years, having been a diplomat in the State Department, and it’s just going to be a lot of heavy lifting.”

Mrs. Clinton has become a more visible presence in recent weeks, increasing the number of her public appearances and raising money for Democrats across the country. Last week, she spoke at a fund-raiser for Donna Shalala, a former Clinton administration official, who is running for a House seat in Florida.

“She will always be a winner and I’ll always be with her,” said Ms. Shalala, introducing Mrs. Clinton to a room full of 200 Democratic donors in Miami.

Mrs. Clinton said she wouldn’t consider a possible run in 2020 until after the midterm elections next week.

“I’m not even going to even think about it until we get through this Nov. 6 election,” she said. “But I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure we have a Democrat in the White House come January of 2021.”

Should she mount a third presidential bid, Mrs. Clinton would be entering a Democratic field crowded with potential contenders, a major shift from 2016, when nearly no Democrats were eager to challenge her.

Mrs. Clinton said she expects a crowded field of as many as 20 Democrats.

“I think we’d have a number of excellent candidates who would be really formidable on the campaign trail, but let’s wait and see who it is,” she said. "I’m just going to wait and watch what happens.”

Mrs. Clinton dismissed some of the calls for her to retreat from public life as sexist.

“There were no articles telling Al Gore to go away or John Kerry to go away or John McCain or Mitt Romney to go away,” she said. “Mitt Romney is going to the Senate, that’s where he’s going.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/...njrGrvSt4OQXEaaRhIucX1lF0uxBqgQZE1z56E4Giq7xU
 
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The irony is that none of those turks looks young.

Well, that night aged them like 10 years apiece, I'd wager.

Also, FWIW - the candidate with the most faithless electors that voted for someone other than the winner of their state's EC votes? Hillary...... and even then, it wasn't that many... what was it? 4? Not nearly enough even when record-setting.

The idea that the EC needs tinkered with in any way is sour grapes from the losing side, nothing more. It works just like it should. You have to appeal to at least a nominal confederation of different regions/economies/cultural subgroups to win the Presidency, not just be popular with the largest voting bloc in one city on each corner of the map.
 
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FUCKING CALLED IT! DISBARMENT WHEN?
His law firm was evicted by its landlord over unpaid rent a few weeks ago, so he's probably low on money too. I don't see him being able to keep things together long enough to stick around as an actual 2020 nomination contender.
 
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FUCKING CALLED IT! DISBARMENT WHEN?

https://archive.is/xVubm

We're told security brought her inside the building and Michael showed up 5 minutes later, ran into the building, chasing after her. He screamed repeatedly, "She hit me first." We're told he angrily added, "This is bulls***, this is f***ing bulls***."

I don't know, he wanted people to believe all women with Kavanaugh, I'm not sure why I shouldn't simply believe his wife here.
 
The idea that the EC needs tinkered with in any way is sour grapes from the losing side, nothing more. It works just like it should.

Not if you want it to be how it was intended to be. Electors were actually supposed to vote their conscience, not be pledged to some candidate. The whole problem with "faithless" electors wouldn't have been seen as a problem to the framers. It's a nonsensical compromise that mainly made sense in the context of when it was drafted, satisfied nobody at the time, and has led on multiple occasions to contested elections and riots, and ridiculous situations like the Hayes/Tilden election.
 
No Jeb needs to win the democratic nominee to show the world that principled conservatives and liberals can work together.

JEBHEADS RISE UP!
He can win both. I believe. Slow and steady.



We're told security brought her inside the building and Michael showed up 5 minutes later, ran into the building, chasing after her. He screamed repeatedly, "She hit me first." We're told he angrily added, "This is bulls***, this is f***ing bulls***."

He then, bewilderingly, became completely calm and greeted someone named Mark.
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

FUCKING CALLED IT! DISBARMENT WHEN?

His law firm was evicted by its landlord over unpaid rent a few weeks ago, so he's probably low on money too. I don't see him being able to keep things together long enough to stick around as an actual 2020 nomination contender.

https://archive.is/xVubm



I don't know, he wanted people to believe all women with Kavanaugh, I'm not sure why I shouldn't simply believe his wife here.

He then, bewilderingly, became completely calm and greeted someone named Mark.

I did not hit her! It’s not true! It’s bull****!

Did he ask how his sex life was going?

My only regret in life is only having one "Winner" rating to give to each of you. God that was funny.

So I guess this means he won't be bothering Tucker Carlson anymore, eh?
 
Well, that night aged them like 10 years apiece, I'd wager.

Also, FWIW - the candidate with the most faithless electors that voted for someone other than the winner of their state's EC votes? Hillary...... and even then, it wasn't that many... what was it? 4? Not nearly enough even when record-setting.

The idea that the EC needs tinkered with in any way is sour grapes from the losing side, nothing more. It works just like it should. You have to appeal to at least a nominal confederation of different regions/economies/cultural subgroups to win the Presidency, not just be popular with the largest voting bloc in one city on each corner of the map.
I don't like the idea that the presidential election is not one man, one vote. I'm OK with the senate being skewed in that way, but there's only one president and I think every individual voter should have an equal voice in choosing them.
 
I don't like the idea that the presidential election is not one man, one vote. I'm OK with the senate being skewed in that way, but there's only one president and I think every individual voter should have an equal voice in choosing them.

That would be optimal but it probably isn't going to happen any time soon for fairly obvious reasons.
 
If she does run she will most likely make sure Trump will win again. She will cause infighting in the dem circle jerk and give Trump a one up me thinks.
 
If she does run she will most likely make sure Trump will win again. She will cause infighting in the dem circle jerk and give Trump a one up me thinks.
Eternal reminder that Clinton campaign strategy was to boost Trump during the Republican primaries on the assumption that he'd be an easy victory.
 
Eternal reminder that Clinton campaign strategy was to boost Trump during the Republican primaries on the assumption that he'd be an easy victory.
It's a case of Victor Frankenstein not realizing his monster is not a good idea until it's too late and he's hunting it in the artic circle.

I guess she thinks she'll also be able to get those damn kids to Pokemon Go to the polls this time, eh?
 
It's a case of Victor Frankenstein not realizing his monster is not a good idea until it's too late and he's hunting it in the artic circle.

I guess she thinks she'll also be able to get those damn kids to Pokemon Go to the polls this time, eh?

Having this cunt again would just underscore in the minds of anyone who didn't go last time that it is completely pointless and that they're just recycling the same barf bag over and over.
 
Having this cunt again would just underscore in the minds of anyone who didn't go last time that it is completely pointless and that they're just recycling the same barf bag over and over.
Like the only way she could win is if she has an actual platform to run on that isn’t “Fuck Trump” because candidates who run on just opposing the incumbent president always fail (See: Dole 1996, Kerry 2004, and Romney 2012)
 
I don't like the idea that the presidential election is not one man, one vote. I'm OK with the senate being skewed in that way, but there's only one president and I think every individual voter should have an equal voice in choosing them.
Eh, the problem here is a few big cities can just keep packing in more and more people, and apportioning the resources to the people in the cities to keep getting their votes.

At first, this looks fine, the majority is getting what they want. But the minority are the producers, the farmers, the people who actually make the stuff and the food. So what do you think happens when the government is controlled by just the urbanites and the resources are controlled by the disenfranchised middle americans?

You get bad relations, fractured society, and eventually civil war. And the city folk lose, because all they have is lots and lots of people they need all those middle americans to feed and service. And then we all lose, because those cities tend to have a lot of innovation.

The system sucks, but nobody can come up with a better one so far. The whole problem of course is that people are involved in running it, and they're dumb.
 
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