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Absolutego said:
It's not a ruse, it's the continuation of the slow death of the pre-social media internet. Just as the Eternal September of 1993 killed the old Usenet culture forever, the Endless July of 2007 flooded the internet with a bunch of people who associated it with the facebook app on their iPhone and little else. The advice of the previous generation of internet users is ignored, because this new influx of users is so closely tied to social media. They react to trolls as if it were a real-life confrontation, and get upset when they're told to just ignore them.

Plus, look at that staff sheet. Do you really think these people are self-aware enough to do this as a con? They're basically the progressive version of Helen Lovejoy, looking for a crusade to signal about how virtuous they are.
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oh im sure. It is the harambe method for dealing with negative attention. Unfortunately one cannot virtue signal to trolls.
 
I don't know whether to laugh or to curse. I don't want the Internet to be safe. I'm sick of dangerhairs and people like Fire shitting up free and at times nasty exchanges of ideas with their hurt feelings. Children need to be protected online. Adults do not unless they are failing at life so magnificently that they need to be enrolled in adult day care services.

I guess I should laugh because this is going to implode so quickly on the creators. Between opening their users up to even more ridicule, they will end up attracting viciousness like they've only imagined from "trolls." You get more than ten dangerhairs in one place online and all those "atta girl" and "there, there" comments will descend into "FUCK YOU DIE CIS SCUM I'M SENDING THIS TO YOUR MOTHER AND BOSS AND WE'VE ALREADY KILLED YOUR DOG" sorts of shit when someone expresses a belief that fat rolls should be covered in public or that girldicks certainly do limit the perception of femininity in the possessor of said girldick. And who will protect the trolls from the trolls?
 
January Cyst said:
No, the you just have to give it access through the facebook UI (basically click "I approve" once).
@Null People found out that you can get to the personal page of users by switching numbers in the url, how about creating a script that generates random numbers and grabs and archives every page that comes up? :story:

The pages tend to be https://iheartmob.org/home/XXX , I've just tried several random 3 digit numbers and got pages for most of them.
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Doesn't even need to be random numbers - that's probably the auto-increment id column of the users table, so there's probably one user per sequential number (a couple of keys may be skipped on rollbacks during the insert operation, but still, just like chan post numbers).
 
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Vitriol said:
what happened to 'do not feed the trolls'

this must be ruse?
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it's bad when neopets users have more common sense then you
"don't feed the trolls" is one of the first things i learned there, right after "k00l k1d2 u23 l33t sp34k"

aside from the obvious faults of this system, it also doesn't help ANYTHING to overload a website with reports. i remember a friend who worked at an animal shelter complaining that people kept tying up their phone lines over one thing (can't remember specifically what it was), and they had a hard time getting much done because of that. not only are they potentially doxing themselves, as well as parading around how moronic and soft-skinned they are, they're hurting their cause since inevitably shittons of users are going to report shittons of things, and shittons of other things are going to be pushed to the bottom of the queue, some of which might be actually important.
 
I'm trying to puzzle out what they plan to do. I think they want to have people log in to their site and choose a weeping cow by their sob story and post support for them on the cow's Facebook page through a form on the HeartMob site. In order to get the mob's support, you have to be a member of the mob. So all the users are cows. It seems to me that's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. If one person can't control themselves when they get bullied by a troll, imagine the drama a herd of people who can't control themselves might cause.
 
Does anyone else think it's incredibly amusing that in the last few years the definition of "internet troll" has changed from "probably unemployed loser who's doing it for kicks" to "shadowy and powerful criminal/terrorist who seeks utter destruction and will destroy you."

Allowing overly sheltered people on the internet was a mistake.
 
Ruin said:
Does anyone else think it's incredibly amusing that in the last few years the definition of "internet troll" has changed from "probably unemployed loser who's doing it for kicks" to "shadowy and powerful criminal/terrorist who seeks utter destruction and will destroy you."
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Their thinking surrounding trolls is contradictory. Note that these were posted on the same day.

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This just can't be real. I can't accept this much gold.
It's like winning the lottery and doing your happy dance the door bell rings and it's publishers clearing house.
 
Someone needs to clue Chris Chan in where he can sign up to get his own private army.
 
Anyone done any followup on those SQL vulns that were mentioned a while back? I'm having a look, and I can't seem to find any - I think they've fixed them. Cloudflare makes trying anything else difficult.
 
Since we stopped paying attention to them Heartmob has received more publicity. Wu makes an appearance in this article

https://www.wired.com/2016/11/heartmob-signing-volunteers-fight-twitter-eggs/
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JULIE LALONDE KNOWS all too well what it’s like to be harassed on social media.

Lalonde is an Ottawa-based women’s rights activist intimately familiar with the deluge of abuse a single tweet can trigger. She’s endured everything from whack-a-mole trolls impersonating her online to enduring a coordinated campaign of abuse against women who dared to comment on Canada’s first Twitter harassment criminal case.

The system shifts the burden of fighting abuse to someone who isn’t the victim.
Twitter abuse targets often struggle to get the company’s attention. And this week the social network is trying to do more. But Lalonde has found another source of support. HeartMob is a service designed to connect targets of harassment with thousands of well-intentioned users ready to leap into action as a force to stand up to Twitter eggs. The site lets anyone sign up to send positive messages to people being trolled; volunteers can also help document and report abuse so that victims don’t have to keep telling their painful stories.

People want to help, but they don’t know what to do, says Lalonde. “HeartMob creates a space that validates victims’ experience, and it gives people practical tools.”

It’s also not the only support network that exists to serve the 40 percent of internet users who say they’ve experienced online harassment. There’s Crash Override, an abuse hotline created by game developer Zoe Quinn, the first target of the infamous Gamergate movement; TrollBusters, which like HeartMob lets users send supportive messages and monitor attacks; and the Women’s Media Center Speech Project, a comprehensive resource for women dealing with online abuse. These exist because online harassment still does, and companies are still not doing enough to police trolls on their platforms.

Grassroots efforts will only become more important if the reported post-election uptick in attacks against minority groups continues, says Emily May, co-founder of the anti-street harassment group Hollaback, which launched HeartMob in January.

“We’re built for this. We’re ready for this moment,” May says.

Since launching eleven months ago, May says more than 3,000 volunteers have worked to support 631 people on HeartMob. Typically, about 50 to 100 people rally around the target of abuse. Though the platform is still in beta, May says anyone can sign up. You gain access when you create an account and add your social profiles or get recommended by another “heartmobber.” The HeartMob team verifies and approves your application, which can take a day or two.

Once you’re a member, you can browse cases and offer support to others, or you can get help by filing an incident report with screenshots or links to the abusive behavior. When you “level up,” you can also pitch in by documenting and reporting abuse others are receiving. Moderators monitor all activity on the platform and may reach out to social networks directly to alert them to particular incidents.

Lalonde, who is involved in the Ottawa Hollaback chapter, says HeartMob has helped her and encourages others to use it. “Supportive messages from people who you might not even know, who have taken time out of their day to send you support and break up the onslaught of hateful mail, have been very helpful,” she says. The system also shifts the burden of monitoring the abuse to someone who isn’t the victim, she says. In the process, this support pushes back against the still-common idea that because online harassment is in many ways intangible, it’s not legitimate.

Twitter itself has just added new tools to the anti-harassment arsenal by allowing users to mute keywords, phrases, user names, hashtags, and threads in their mentions. Like HeartMob, the company is now allowing bystanders to report harassment and hate speech. But neither HeartMob’s nor Twitter’s solutions are complete, says Brianna Wu, a video game developer also targeted by Gamergate. Filtering and muting doesn’t mean the end of abuse—just that it’s hidden. And that in itself could be a problem if the targets don’t see that harassers are exposing their personal information.

But she says that doesn’t mean grassroots efforts like HeartMob don’t have value, especially as a means of providing emotional support. “I don’t think there’s one answer—there’s a multitude of answers,” Wu says. “But it’s clear that the system as it is is clearly failing.” Wu says solutions have to come from all sides—companies, grassroots advocates, and lawmakers. (She’s considering running for public office herself in hopes of making a bigger impact on this issue.)

“I applaud anyone that’s going to get up and throw their heart into the ring to make this better,” Wu says. “Something’s gotta change.”
 
They've made an index for us to find cows in real time and ensure minor skirmishes that would die down when ignored instantly become shitacular trainwrecks. How did we not come up with this idea?
 
Ruin said:
Does anyone else think it's incredibly amusing that in the last few years the definition of "internet troll" has changed from "probably unemployed loser who's doing it for kicks" to "shadowy and powerful criminal/terrorist who seeks utter destruction and will destroy you."
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It's because people stopped learning to shrug off bullshit, and instead started literally committing suicide over being called "cunt" or "faggot".

It's one thing when people use your online information to literally show up at your home/school/place of work to make your life hell. It's another thing when someone just calls you a twat and you have a nervous breakdown over it.
 
Dog Prom 3D said:
I don't know whether to laugh or to curse. I don't want the Internet to be safe. I'm sick of dangerhairs and people like Fire shitting up free and at times nasty exchanges of ideas with their hurt feelings. Children need to be protected online. Adults do not unless they are failing at life so magnificently that they need to be enrolled in adult day care services.

I guess I should laugh because this is going to implode so quickly on the creators. Between opening their users up to even more ridicule, they will end up attracting viciousness like they've only imagined from "trolls." You get more than ten dangerhairs in one place online and all those "atta girl" and "there, there" comments will descend into "FUCK YOU DIE CIS SCUM I'M SENDING THIS TO YOUR MOTHER AND BOSS AND WE'VE ALREADY KILLED YOUR DOG" sorts of shit when someone expresses a belief that fat rolls should be covered in public or that girldicks certainly do limit the perception of femininity in the possessor of said girldick. And who will protect the trolls from the trolls?
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This is actually true, and a good reason why Heartmob is literally fucked no matter what they do. We tend to mock these people but they do have an imperial mindset, and if not dug out early, they quickly turn into an infestation and overrun their containment zones. Even Something Awful got devoured by these loons. The price of lulz, as we knew it, is that we must forevermore smash their hugboxes open and let the light in. The resulting chimp-outs alone make it worth it.

The good news is that they're starting to die off: Despite their fucking huge reach, people are starting to realize that they don't and really never have had numbers on their side. This is one of the reasons that the first thing they do when they try to take over something is consolidate and try to drive off dissenters. Thankfully since 2016, they've started to lose in the worst possible way and their communities have responded with fucking meltdowns. These internet-safety morons are economic cancer for any site they join and because they're completely unprofitable, their shit is predetermined to be failure from the start. From there is' a simple matter of doing what we do best and observing the fucking Autism.
 
As an aside, I am so sick of the concept of "self-care." Self-care to these weak sacks of crap never means going to the gym, engaging in a fun hobby, cooking a nice dinner, making sure their bed has nice, clean sheets, or reading a great book. Self-care almost universally means wallowing in a tub they can barely fit into that is stained permanently from all the Lush bath bombs they use, putting on a Pokemon onesie, ordering a giant pizza and binge watching whatever fucking show is all the rage on Netflix. Ice cream by the pint is often self-care. Cosmetics come up a lot in self care, especially justified for broke people since broke people need to buy lipsticks to feel good more than people who have a solid savings account. Candy, chips, nail polish - all self-care. Healthy meals, clean clothes, showering daily - fuck you shitlord, they don't have enough spoons!

And Heartmob can just back up and stop with this "trolls keep wimmin from writing online" bullshit. Women who aren't drama queens found out long ago how to state controversial opinions online while avoiding the bottom of the barrel posters who just wanna say potty words. Most of these people who are availing themselves of this service are angry because genuine criticism was offered in a less than polite manner. They're not upset at the kys comments. They're buttmad because they can't say whatever they want whenever they want without any sort of pushback or retort or analysis of what they said. Their safe places are circle jerks where they are never challenged. Harassment for them is what the rest of us call debate.
 
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