Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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>Implying Stella isn't a good mother
Listen, I want my Stella loving Octavia headcanons to be true as much as the next guy, but this is Viv we are talking about and we can't have nice things.

At least this photograph will always be canon. 212+Family+Portrait.png
 
Neither of Octavia's parents are the least bit good parents. It's genuinely unbelievable that Octavia has turned out the way she has. She should be a vindictive little bitch.
 
I did see a video talking how Octavia is actually a very egotistical character, because like her parents she wants things to go her way.
If that's the angle that video wants to go with I'll have to disagree with it. Wanting things to go your way doesn't make you an egoist, it's a categorical inability to compromise that serves as the indicator for egoism. Which Octavia does not have. Octavia is a weird character because she is such a normal seventeen year old girl and it just does not work with her upbringing. She should either exhibit the worst traits of both her parents and be an absolutely evil little monster, be a highly adept social manipulator due to constantly needing to navigate the battlefield that was her home life growing up, or she should be much more sheepish and weak willed due to being relentlessly dominated and controlled her entire life and so she's a doormat NEET who just goes along to get along and rarely thinks for herself. Or some combination of the three. My issue with Octavia is that she's way too normal for how fucked up her childhood was and unlike someone in their thirties or forties who's had time to mellow out, get some life experience, and move past their fucked up childhood, Octavia is still actively living hers.
 
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