I hope that they'll mostly keep it to background sightings at first (Such as Angel Dust posters in the background or Katie Killjoy on the TV). I really don't see a need for Charlie and Blitzo to ever meet, since their goals contradict each either.
I think that is all it is going to be. My best guess and gut feeling is that maybe one of the Hazbin characters will be the ones hiring I.M.P for something in an HB episode or short. Wouldn't require any significant rewriting of the story, just replace Random Sinner that comes to hire them with a Hazbin character. That seems the most obvious and least disruptive while still being a selling point.
Reminder that Viv and Amazon spent a ton of cash (Probably) hiring the lead singer of Fall Out Boy and never gave him a full solo song. All he does is whine and then call Lute a slur.
That has to be coming in S3 because agreed, what a fucking waste of a voice actor. You gave Patrick Stump a character in a musical and he only sings a couple of lines at the very end of the season?
That has to be coming in S3 because agreed, what a fucking waste of a voice actor. You gave Patrick Stump a character in a musical and he only sings a couple of lines at the very end of the season?
I just remembered that Abel does sing a bit more in No One Here is Like You. I just forgot because the song isn't that good, and I always associate it as an Emily and Pentious song. Looking at the lyrics, he really only sings back-up to Emily with St. Peter (An even more useless character).
I think that is all it is going to be. My best guess and gut feeling is that maybe one of the Hazbin characters will be the ones hiring I.M.P for something in an HB episode or short. Wouldn't require any significant rewriting of the story, just replace Random Sinner that comes to hire them with a Hazbin character. That seems the most obvious and least disruptive while still being a selling point.
Question is, who? Assuming Hazbin takes place in Earth's 2020's (When the show was made), the most recent significant character to die was Velvette, who died in the 2010's IIRC. Given her ego, I doubt she'd want anything to do with IMP. The only other option is that someone wants IMP to go to Earth and bring back proof that a loved one or descendant is still alive and well.
They just don't really have any natural plot connections. Not unless they decide hellborn can go to heaven and that feels like a weird trait for this world to have.
I suppose they could in theory since angels are cast down?
They just don't really have any natural plot connections. Not unless they decide hellborn can go to heaven and that feels like a weird trait for this world to have.
I suppose they could in theory since angels are cast down?
Demons could probably go to Heaven if the plot demands it, since the rules of the afterlife and in particular who can go where don't make any sense and just get made up on the spot without much thought about consistency to justify the current story the writers thought up.
An analytical video going over each character in Hazbin Hotel. Wonder how long it will take Viv to catch wind of it before she makes some vague post on her social media bitching on it.
Was there anyone who insisted that Sera was explicitly evil? I kinda forgot what the reception of her in Season 1 was, but in Season 2, people felt problematic how little she seems to care about the exorcists, who died under her authority, which seems to be where most of the criticism on her comes from. She may not be malicious, but she was still an active contributor to genocide, and the only consequences she faced was a mild shaming from her sister, and feeling personal guilt about "all the souls that could've been saved".
The fact she had a change of heart makes the lack of explanation for her paranoia more frustrating because not fully knowing why she feared Hell uprising makes her turnaround feel incomplete.
And as for the casting Emily out part, that line will never not be stupid. "If you start to question, you may end up like Lucifer: fallen. I couldn't bear to see you suffer that fate." Bitch, dafuq you mean question? She's questioning the choices you made, so what, are you going to damn her? Nobody but the exorcists know about the exterminations, so it's not like a Fizzmodeus situation where she has to uphold a standard she made for herself.
Sera's not morally grey, nor is she black and white. She's another example of Viv writing a character whose negative qualities she wants to dismissed the moment they are on the main characters' side.
"Trust us with your labor conditions" ̶v̶̶o̶̶x̶. Viv
I've went through the comment section and I have to agree with those who point out how the orginal VAs were tossed out by Viv in favour of Broadway royalty. I
In one of my older comments here I have posted a Polish (Gravity) and a Dutch (Sera's Confession) language FAN dub. Both brilliant (voice-wise). There people are not opera singers or the likes. Just talented and super passionate.
Viv could have easily stuck to the "Indie" vibe and have held i.e online pre-auditions for new roles/kept a part of the orginal VAs.
But that would have been too much proletarian and too little tinseltown glitter I guess.
"Trust us with your labor conditions" ̶v̶̶o̶̶x̶. Viv
I've went through the comment section and I have to agree with those who point out how the orginal VAs were tossed out by Viv in favour of Broadway royalty. I
In one of my older comments here I have posted a Polish (Gravity) and a Dutch (Sera's Confession) language FAN dub. Both brilliant (voice-wise). There people are not opera singers or the likes. Just talented and super passionate.
Viv could have easily stuck to the "Indie" vibe and have held i.e online pre-auditions for new roles/kept a part of the orginal VAs.
But that would have been too much proletarian and too little tinseltown glitter I guess.
Now to be a little generous on the 'va' thing, indie vas do get exposed for being nonces/saying slurs/etc at way higher rates thanks to their larger digital footprint. The current Kovach Nega controversy is hitting Glitch now and not Spindlehorse.
Professional actors might've been encouraged by Amazon for the sake of better professionalism expectations (like not constantly doing livestreams or scrambling to twitter the moment anything controversial happens and only making it worse) for people who are sorta the secondary faces of the show even if theyre not very involved with the production overall. Still sucks but not the most irrational decision tbh.
Now to be a little generous on the 'va' thing, indie vas do get exposed for being nonces/saying slurs/etc at way higher rates thanks to their larger digital footprint. The current Kovach Nega controversy is hitting Glitch now and not Spindlehorse.
Professional actors might've been encouraged by Amazon for the sake of better professionalism expectations (like not constantly doing livestreams or scrambling to twitter the moment anything controversial happens and only making it worse) for people who are sorta the secondary faces of the show even if theyre not very involved with the production overall. Still sucks but not the most irrational decision tbh.
However, on the other other hand the garage band rebel image is a large part of the appeal of "indie" anything and people getting upset over some internet weirdo saying nigger and faggot are probably posers who aren't really into "indie internet artists" to begin with since that lack of oversight and control is, arguably, one of the core parts of the appeal.
Now to be a little generous on the 'va' thing, indie vas do get exposed for being nonces/saying slurs/etc at way higher rates thanks to their larger digital footprint. The current Kovach Nega controversy is hitting Glitch now and not Spindlehorse.
Professional actors might've been encouraged by Amazon for the sake of better professionalism expectations (like not constantly doing livestreams or scrambling to twitter the moment anything controversial happens and only making it worse) for people who are sorta the secondary faces of the show even if theyre not very involved with the production overall. Still sucks but not the most irrational decision tbh.
I can understand the rational behind but for the love of God, this race kvetching needs to stop. Retards should be ridiculed into oblivion. Every one of them is a fucking schizocow.
Professional VAs would probably promote fascism if it was the current thing imo. Instead of the lgbtqwert2S+* gay WIFI password
All the indie VAs that Viv wouldve picked are the same tho, they just said something vaguely racist like a decade ago and are incapable of handling anything PR-wise. Kovach was dating a fat polygamous nonbinary and claims to be asexual ffs, hes a prime example. Would he still do that if it wasnt trendy in his nerd sphere? I doubt it!
Either all the indie VAs that Viv wouldve liked are actual true believers of the cause tm, or they just know that their fanbase is autistic sjws and act accordingly, theyre just worse at executing woke professionalism compared to the professional actors.
Even Viv is forcing herself to act woker than she actually is, removing words like 'retard' from her show and pretending she doesnt like edgelord shit as much as she does. The girl used to be a shoeonhead and blair white fan, any woke outrage she has is probably performative.
All the indie VAs that Viv wouldve picked are the same tho, they just said something vaguely racist like a decade ago and are incapable of handling anything PR-wise. Kovach was dating a fat polygamous nonbinary and claims to be asexual ffs, hes a prime example. Would he still do that if it wasnt trendy in his nerd sphere? I doubt it!
Either all the indie VAs that Viv wouldve liked are actual true believers of the cause tm, or they just know that their fanbase is autistic sjws and act accordingly, theyre just worse at executing woke professionalism compared to the professional actors.
Even Viv is forcing herself to act woker than she actually is, removing words like 'retard' from her show and pretending she doesnt like edgelord shit as much as she does. The girl used to be a shoeonhead and blair white fan, any woke outrage she has is probably performative.
OT but it makes so much more sense to me now that K-Pop is 120% curated and K-Pop slaves are not even allowed to breath on their own without an ok from their management.
I am so over autistic woke (left&right) outrage culture.
It's from that one shot of her in season 1 with the fire reflecting from her eyes and singing "to do what is required"that really made people think she was going to double-down on things.
people felt problematic how little she seems to care about the exorcists, who died under her authority, which seems to be where most of the criticism on her comes from. She may not be malicious, but she was still an active contributor to genocide, and the only consequences she faced was a mild shaming from her sister, and feeling personal guilt about "all the souls that could've been saved".
There's an argument that could be made that Sera cares more about human souls than heavenborn; similar to how Charlie seeminly cares more about Sinners than the hellborn (there's actually a lot that Charle and Sera are similar in now that I think about it). But, as I've mentioned many times before, probably not an intention of the writers as the exorcists are more or less just a faceless evil to blame everything for, even though the show has shown that the exorcists can be very humanistic.
The fact she had a change of heart makes the lack of explanation for her paranoia more frustrating because not fully knowing why she feared Hell uprising makes her turnaround feel incomplete
Season 2 does kind of confirm her reason for paranoia with "Lilith" doing "protests" telling Sinners to rise up and resist. The exterminations happening for 7 years and "Lilith" being gone for the same amount time has to be connected with each other. Granted, it seems like there's no way for Hell to have access to Heaven from their side, so there really shouldn't be any worried of Sinners getting up there and causing a trouble. Unless, it's revealed that "Lilith" somehow got up to Heaven by herself. Which in that case, Sera's paranoia is solely justified. Plus, there's the fact that the majority of Hell when given the chance to invade and take over Heaven were all for it.
And as for the casting Emily out part, that line will never not be stupid. "If you start to question, you may end up like Lucifer: fallen. I couldn't bear to see you suffer that fate." Bitch, dafuq you mean question? She's questioning the choices you made, so what, are you going to damn her? Nobody but the exorcists know about the exterminations, so it's not like a Fizzmodeus situation where she has to uphold a standard she made for herself.
Makes it sound like she had no choice in Lucifer being casted out of Heaven. But that just begs the question, who was? Those silhouette angels that are looking down at him?
Where the fuck are they at? Why didn't Sera consult them? What about the angels that helped her put a barrier (something that should have been already around Heaven to start with) up? Or any of the angels in the courtroom? Sera put all this unnecessary burden on her own shoulders because of her refusal to have a discussion about this with anyone. If she really wants to atone for her wrongdoing, she should step down from her role of being a lead seraphim because she is a terrible leader that makes terrible decisions.
That doesn't stop Amir from being stupid on social media. But Amazon had no decision on the voice actors. That was A24, who gave Viv free control on who she wanted. There's been many posts about this how this was all Viv's decision. And what made people upset wasn't the fact that Viv replaced the indie VAs with bigger names; it wad the fact that she was being dishonest about the entire sit
