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How many overlords would have been thwarted while they still lived on Earth if Columbo existed in Viv's world?

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Depending on when he started police work, Columbo could probably take Vincent Whitmann (Vox) out of the running, since he died in the late 1950s, and basically prevent Season 2 from happening. Also, Pentious ended up at the Hotel through Vox's machinations, so he might even not become the first redeemed.
Valentino most likely died in the 1970s, so he would be a valid target as well – and arresting him removes Angel Dust's entire conflict, soooooo I don't know if Charlie would even have any actual guests left.
Maybe Columbo could thwart some of the others too – Zeezi the big dino bitch, Velvette, Carmilla, but we don't know their backstories yet so it's impossible to know if they would even be alive at the same time as Columbo.
 
Then why not HAVE it take place in Purgatory, and why pretend it's actual "Satan's literal domain" Hell?
I know there’s plenty of answers to this question. Mostly having to do with Vivzie being an overgrown edgelord. But I always just think about Vivzie’s tweet about “reclaiming Hell for the queers” and know it wouldn’t have quite the same impact if it were about reclaiming purgatory.
 
I know there’s plenty of answers to this question. Mostly having to do with Vivzie being an overgrown edgelord. But I always just think about Vivzie’s tweet about “reclaiming Hell for the queers” and know it wouldn’t have quite the same impact if it were about reclaiming purgatory.

And because purgatory is already known as a realm where damned souls redeem themselves.
 
Then why not HAVE it take place in Purgatory, and why pretend it's actual "Satan's literal domain" Hell?
Viv's knowledge of theology could most charitably be described as, "non-existent".

If they were in Purgatory, I think you run into a harder problem with redemption, in that these are people that are supposedly on the razor's edge between salvation and damnation, and most of the characters in the show absolutely belong on an express elevator straight to perdition.

Also, at least according to Catholic teaching, Purgatory isn't like a third realm you can just chill in, and head up or down. It's a process where the souls of the saved have their sins purged (hence the name) so that they can enter into Heaven and behold the beatific vision. To quote the Catechism.
All who die in God’s grace, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven (1030).​

While works like Dante talk about it taking a long time (possibly millennia for some souls) there's nothing AFAIK that Catholic teaching says that it necessarily is incredibly long, though the reason its often seen as a form of suffering comes from I Corinthians.

For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble—each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
 
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Viv's knowledge of theology could most charitably be described as, "non-existent".

If they were in Purgatory, I think you run into a harder problem with redemption, in that these are people that are supposedly on the razor's edge between salvation and damnation, and most of the characters in the show absolutely belong on an express elevator straight to perdition.

Also, at least according to Catholic teaching, Purgatory isn't like a third realm you can just chill in, and head up or down. It's a process where the souls of the saved have their sins purged (hence the name) so that they can enter into Heaven and behold the beatific vision. To quote the Catechism.
All who die in God’s grace, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven (1030).​

While works like Dante talk about it taking a long time (possibly millennia for some souls) there's nothing AFAIK that Catholic teaching says that it necessarily is incredibly long, though the reason its often seen as a form of suffering comes from I Corinthians.

For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble—each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
You know, it'd be pretty cool if someone actually did a show revolving around the afterlife like this. It just sucks that a lot of them are done by people that did next to no knowledge on the topic, just want to flaunt their stupid ships, or it coming across as overly preachy. Then again, I didn't realize how "on the edge" Purgatory was.
 
Maybe Columbo could thwart some of the others too – Zeezi the big dino bitch, Velvette, Carmilla, but we don't know their backstories yet so it's impossible to know if they would even be alive at the same time as Columbo.
Who is going to bet that we still won't know their backstories when the last season is over and they have still contributed little to the actual plot? Or if we get to know their backstories they will be half assed knockoffs from some fanfiction. I mean fuck, I think it's funny how the fandom can't even agree on half the overlords personalities because we know so little about them.

Also speaking about Velvette, my personal suggestion for her backstory would be that she was born relatively recently so she was still alive as some kind of shallow fashion/beauty influencer during the internet boom which she used to market her various products.
Though during her early days she tried to hide the fact that, while she was quite talented in some ways she often had to rely on other people from her friend group to make her business work since they would help her with many aspects of the brand.
But after actually getting successfull she just dumped them and replaced them with various celebrities and famous people, but was still shameless enough to rip of her old friend's designs without even crediting them. After they openly complained she started to claim them responsible for imaginary crimes and other heinous acts in an attempt to manipulate her fanbase into bullying her former friends, which went so far that one of them tried to commit suicide, something which she just publically mocked him online for.
Some time afterwards she died in a mundane accident and manifested in hell as a mannequin as punishment for using other people like throwaway objects and for her completely shallow and hollow way of life that she inspired on million of followers.



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You know, it'd be pretty cool if someone actually did a show revolving around the afterlife like this. It just sucks that a lot of them are done by people that did next to no knowledge on the topic, just want to flaunt their stupid ships, or it coming across as overly preachy. Then again, I didn't realize how "on the edge" Purgatory was.
The Good Place does get to this in the end. though it involved demons getting tired of running the ball crusher 9000 for endless jeremy bearamys
 
Maybe Columbo could thwart some of the others too – Zeezi the big dino bitch, Velvette, Carmilla, but we don't know their backstories yet so it's impossible to know if they would even be alive at the same time as Columbo.
See you're forgetting Geography though. Columbo is only one guy and he works for the LAPD.
I always loved how Columbo acted stupid as hell until the moment the villain who thought he had fooled him got asked "one last question." "Just one more thing."
That was the entire show man. And it never got old.
Then why not HAVE it take place in Purgatory, and why pretend it's actual "Satan's literal domain" Hell?
Who's to say it doesn't and we along with the characters haven't all been duped by an unreliable narrator?
 
Who is going to bet that we still won't know their backstories when the last season is over and they have still contributed little to the actual plot? Or if we get to know their backstories they will be half assed knockoffs from some fanfiction. I mean fuck, I think it's funny how the fandom can't even agree on half the overlords personalities because we know so little about them.
It's funny because I'm sure Viv mentioned that season 2 was going to be the overlord season. We still don't even how an overlord becomes an overlord. We know that Alastor got a head start because he made a deal when he was still alive, but how about someone like Vox? How did he get to be where he is today in Hell? Since he is the main focus of the season, he would be the perfect person to follow on how the whole overlord system works. But no, just give him a another musical number on how he wants to take over heaven to have more power. I don't think we truly understand his motive the first time he sung about it. Maybe we'll get it the fifth time.
 
He travels all the time, though – there's one episode where he's in London and Scotland Yard brings him on to help with an investigation. Same thing happens when he goes to Mexico, I think
Poor guy just can not catch a break. But those are one off things, he spends 99% of his time in LA.
 
Poor guy just can not catch a break. But those are one off things, he spends 99% of his time in LA.
Then who's to say the perps won't just come to him? Vox was basically a national celebrity at the height of his Earth career, he would probably end up touring LA at some point, aaaand if he happens to commit a murder during that time, it's over, he's getting sent to the Columbo dimension
 
I know there’s plenty of answers to this question. Mostly having to do with Vivzie being an overgrown edgelord. But I always just think about Vivzie’s tweet about “reclaiming Hell for the queers” and know it wouldn’t have quite the same impact if it were about reclaiming purgatory.
Even boomer shows, despite being the precursor of future edgelords, knew what Hell was and who went there.

 
the thought that somebody who enjoys hazbin (even in a bad way) could turn around and also enjoy columbo is quite funny.
I enjoy being angry about Hazbin and HB. I genuinely enjoy Columbo. I'd love to see that little gremlin send the HB crew to the Columbo dimension for the murders they've committed in LA.
 
I am still waiting for the twist that Purgatory exists and that's where Adam (and the other dead exorcists) went.

It's coming. I can feel it.
 
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