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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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If a year or so ago someone had told me, "At the end of season 2 they all Care Bear Stare while singing We Are The World" I would have thought they were having a laugh.

Wonder what season 3 will bring.
 
Considering how much Viv hates Charlastor and can't stop liking posts on Bluesky that shit on it and its fans, it definitely won't
Lolmao is this true? Are there screenshots?
She's extremely firm in her stance that Alastor has no interest in relationships.
And yet I doubt she's that outspoken about Vox/Alastor shippers.

Honestly I could've guessed that she disliked Charlastor because "their relationship is familial! They're so brother and sister/parent and child coded" is a classic among fujos to dismiss a straight couple
 
Unlike some of the developments, it actually makes sense and goes with the character. AD so clearly has severe daddy issues.

There's an animatic out there of AD doing standup where he nearly bursts into tears over his dad loving his brother instead of him (while they're both in the audience heckling him).
The main issue I take with it is that's it's treated as the big reason why Angel is in Hell because he was in the mafia during the 30s-40s, a character like that should have done a lot more wrong than just killing his dad because daddy issues.

His backstory should had him be kicking some poor dude's ass in an alley who missed a predatory loan payment, putting a gun up to their head and saying next time they better pay in full, he should have been silencing witnesses, either by threats, bribery, or making sure they go 'missing' so they couldn't ever testify against him or any in his crime family, he should have been a bit of foil for Alastor since both were murderers, while Alastor killed mainly for pleasure and pride, Angel killed thanks to good old fashioned greed, but the show could also remember that as a son of a mob boss he was thought that this stuff is OK from birth which gives you a bit of sympathy for him despite his heinous actions which aren't excused, instead Angel's big sin is killing an abusive father, which compared to what he should have been is straight up fucking lame. It's not helped by Angel's VA saying that "Angel's problem is that he doesn't love himself.".
 
"Vox, do you realize? Do you realize?! That we can lose our overlord status and lose everything?!"

"You better get that off the hell Internet or I'll have to pole dance up there myself and shoot it down!"

"I'll send in Pentious, I'll send in AngelDust, I'll use Lucifer. I'll send ANYTHING IN MY POWER!"
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Done.
 
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Lolmao is this true? Are there screenshots?

And yet I doubt she's that outspoken about Vox/Alastor shippers.

Honestly I could've guessed that she disliked Charlastor because "their relationship is familial! They're so brother and sister/parent and child coded" is a classic among fujos to dismiss a straight couple
Here's a recent one.
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And no of course she isn't when it comes to RadioStatic or RadioApple, which she instead actively likes fanart of. Why else would Vox's crush be canon?
 
The main issue I take with it is that's it's treated as the big reason why Angel is in Hell because he was in the mafia during the 30s-40s, a character like that should have done a lot more wrong than just killing his dad because daddy issues.
In his first appearance in the show, he was obviously extremely proficient with guns (and daddy issues). He probably had that skill in real life and probably killed a lot of people other than his dad. Also patricide is one of the classic "you definitely go to Hell for that" sins.

Even though I suspect he actually possibly had good cause for killing his fucked up dad.
 
For instance, there was a random poster in the background of the YouTube version of Spring Broken, but the Amazon version replaces the poster with one that says "Exorcist Free Zone".
I was curious because I never heard this before so I went to check:

YouTube version:
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Amazon version:
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I didn't even know the Amazon version changed things other than recreating the pilot. What an oddly minor thing to go back and edit. What for, just to confirm they are the same universe now that they can?
So allegedly, Viv was offered 30 minutes episode for the first season but refused. I don't know how true that is because looking through any available information of the behind-the-scenes is like looking for a needle in a haystack. And Viv contradicts herself many times, so it's really hard to find the truth in the matter.
I would believe it. Viv has stated that both shows have been written in their entirety for a long time. It's why she is adamant that Helluva is strictly 4 seasons and exactly 50 episodes with zero room for change.
 
The main issue I take with it is that's it's treated as the big reason why Angel is in Hell because he was in the mafia during the 30s-40s, a character like that should have done a lot more wrong than just killing his dad because daddy issues.

His backstory should had him be kicking some poor dude's ass in an alley who missed a predatory loan payment, putting a gun up to their head and saying next time they better pay in full, he should have been silencing witnesses, either by threats, bribery, or making sure they go 'missing' so they couldn't ever testify against him or any in his crime family, he should have been a bit of foil for Alastor since both were murderers, while Alastor killed mainly for pleasure and pride, Angel killed thanks to good old fashioned greed, but the show could also remember that as a son of a mob boss he was thought that this stuff is OK from birth which gives you a bit of sympathy for him despite his heinous actions which aren't excused, instead Angel's big sin is killing an abusive father, which compared to what he should have been is straight up fucking lame. It's not helped by Angel's VA saying that "Angel's problem is that he doesn't love himself.".
It seems like they're doing the same thing with Sir Pentious, where it hinges on one big sin sent them to Hell instead of multiple sins. If they do have Angel killing orher people in his past, I doubt it will be anyone who is innocent because that might be too hard for the show to try and redeem. And they probably don't want to get into the whole conversation that would happen if Angel's victims are up in Heaven.

This is slightly off-topic, but I wanted to mention that this season humanized both Vox and Valentino. Not to make them good people, but actually three-dimensional characters that give them more than depth than being a villain. Meanwhile, Velvette is still the one-dimensional #BossBitch that doesn't want you touching her hair.
 
It seems like they're doing the same thing with Sir Pentious, where it hinges on one big sin sent them to Hell instead of multiple sins. If they do have Angel killing orher people in his past, I doubt it will be anyone who is innocent because that might be too hard for the show to try and redeem. And they probably don't want to get into the whole conversation that would happen if Angel's victims are up in Heaven.

This is slightly off-topic, but I wanted to mention that this season humanized both Vox and Valentino. Not to make them good people, but actually three-dimensional characters that give them more than depth than being a villain. Meanwhile, Velvette is still the one-dimensional #BossBitch that doesn't want you touching her hair.
It's interesting considering there's signs that Vox will go through a redemption arc (Him asking Charlie if he could be redeemed, Charlie's response, and the look he gives her, while obviously him trying to bait a terrible response out of her, feels like blatant foreshadowing). Still I'll be shocked if the show ever deals with the angle of killers getting up to Heaven to meet their victims, despite it being an elephant in the room.
I would believe it. Viv has stated that both shows have been written in their entirety for a long time. It's why she is adamant that Helluva is strictly 4 seasons and exactly 50 episodes with zero room for change.
Wasn't Helluva Boss mainly made to try to tide people over while she pitched Hazbin to various production companies, heck Loona and Blitzo are in the Hazbin's pilot. With her planning 5 seasons of Hazbin with 8 episodes each, it's sort of funny since that means her big 'dream project' she was shaping up for like a decade before it finally officially premiered will ultimately be significantly shorter in both episode count and probably total runtime then something she made on the side, probably because she can't turn it into an animated yaoi fanfic.
 
idk if it got posted but youtooz is running a hazbin hotel collection

total for all basic figures (not including special ones) is 360 dollars. They dont have some i want like lute or emily.

as much i want some kind of hazbin related item idk if these are it. Youtooz are essentially less faggy funkopops since they actually have some detail and are all unique in pose and such.

 
So, what are we thinking is how Helluva and Hazbin end up having a crossover? I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned that it will be happening at some point.
S4 of Helluva will have a post-credits scene of Charlie calling Blitzo for help. This will lead into the opening of whatever season of Hazbin comes next.
Blitzo will probably do a quick recap of Helluva for the people who couldn't be bothered to watch both shows.
 
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