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There's an interview going with Viv, she revealed few nice detals like:
- Lute is an sleeper villian.
- Alastor might be actually falling in love with Charlie
- Angel Dust is secondary S3 lore focus alongside Charlie's family
- Vox will return or even reappear in S3 in some way
- Alastor has his own agenda now that he is free of the hook
 
1337H4XOR said:
There's an interview going with Viv, she revealed few nice detals like:
- Lute is an sleeper villian.
- Alastor might be actually falling in love with Charlie
- Angel Dust is secondary S3 lore focus alongside Charlie's family
- Vox will return or even reappear in S3 in some way
- Alastor has his own agenda now that he is free of the hook
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And I will continue below with Season colors now:
Season 1 - Red (Adam)
Season 2 - Blue (Vox)
Season 3 - Yellow (Lute)
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Weird how she calls Lute a "sleeper villain," yet the third season is based on her color scheme. Unless she means Lute will spend S3 scheming in the background for most of the runtime rather than be out-and-out evil like Adam and Vox were.
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Sleeper villian era was in S2. Now she's the antagonist in next season.
 
1337H4XOR said:
There's also Seasons with unknown colors yet but people are saying that either Alastor or Roo are antagonists.
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I feel like Alastor would either be the penultimate final boss or the boss that comes after the villain that seemed set up as the final villain
 
1337H4XOR said:
There's also Seasons with unknown colors yet but people are saying that either Alastor or Roo are antagonists.
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Interesting how the first three seasons each follow a primary color.
Wouldn't be surprised if S4 and S5 follow black/white, as they're both a combination of all three colors, depending on whether you're mixing pigments or light.
 
The Fair Lady said:
-I appreciate that Abel finally grew a spine, though it raises the question of why “Gravity” was used this season if Lute wasn’t going to do anything in the end.
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I'll give the show a bit of leeway and criticism, I'm fine with a song in early in one season mainly serve as foundation for the next season's antagonist even if I'd prefer it to be placed towards the end that way it's more clear what they're going for, Stayed Gone is very similar in that way and I don't have the problem with it like I do Gravity, mainly because Vox sent Pentious to attempt to spy on the hotel, so he did play a major if almost entirely indirect role in S1's wider plot, whereas you could legitimately write Lute out of the second season and nothing about the plot would change.
1337H4XOR said:
- Lute is an sleeper villian.
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I'm wondering if her saying Lute is a sleeper villain means she won't really be an antagonist next season, which means S3 might not even have a main antagonist.
 
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
I'll give the show a bit of leeway and criticism, I'm fine with a song in early in one season mainly serve as foundation for the next season's antagonist even if I'd prefer it to be placed towards the end that way it's more clear what they're going for, Stayed Gone is very similar in that way and I don't have the problem with it like I do Gravity, mainly because Vox sent Pentious to attempt to spy on the hotel, so he did play a major if almost entirely indirect role in S1's wider plot, whereas you could legitimately write Lute out of the second season and nothing about the plot would change.

I'm wondering if her saying Lute is a sleeper villain means she won't really be an antagonist next season, which means S3 might not even have a main antagonist.
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S3 theme is her color litterary but we will have secondary arc too now
 
1337H4XOR said:
I don't know how to make the preview window on this site sorry :X
But it is the interview with Viv :)
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
I'm wondering if her saying Lute is a sleeper villain means she won't really be an antagonist next season, which means S3 might not even have a main antagonist.
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Alright, listening through the section where she talks about the colors now (starting at 1:03:15), and it sounds like S3 is purple and green.
S4 is yellow, which makes more sense with Lute being a "sleeper," as it would be odd to use that phrasing only to make her the main antagonist of the very next season.
S5 would go back to red, meaning it would likely be the Roo season or even Roo plus Adam returning in some capacity.
 
Finished S2, figured I’d give my overall thoughts now.

-Already said in a previous post, animation and pacing are much better. Feels more focused on a story (Vox and his takeover attempt of Heaven) unlike S1; which was all over the place and had terrible pacing, Vox is the standout character, best villain of the series by far. All the flaws I’ve pointed out before (charlie and vaggie, the excessive cursing etc.) all still exist, and Charlie feels more retarded in this season than she was in season 1, but at least the focus isn’t fully on her and split across multiple characters. The songs are all mostly forgettable bar Gravity or Vox Populi.

-For a throwaway season, the ending was pretty much what I expected. It was cheesy af, but it at least worked for being in a season that’s basically filler, I’ve heard mixed things on it, but just remembering that this is meant to be filler kind of makes sense that if you were expecting someone to die or something to happen with stakes, it probably won’t.

-This season felt like it was setting up things for the future instead of giving any major development to characters. Sure you had some here and there but it just now feels like this is only the beginning. I think that’s the biggest problem I have with S2, but I can forgive it because Vox was so fun to watch.

-A little disappointed the Lute storyline got halted there at the end, but I guess it makes sense that they’re saving her for a later one. I’m definitely curious what Alastor might be up to since he beat the fraud allegations now, if he’ll continue his edgelord shtick; because it was really fun watching him ragebait Vox like that and playing 4d chess.

-The fight/action scenes continue to be a stand-out, Vox vs Alastor was some anime shit and I loved it. It’s so weird to me how Viv can do action so well, and yet she can’t figure out what kind of genre or premise her shows even are.

Overall, I hate to say I enjoyed this season but I did. Sure, it’s flawed garbage but I can tolerate it over what Helluva Boss is. I guess you can argue Hazbin has the animation, character designs, world, and Helluva just has gay melodrama now, with Stolas being the root cause for a lot of my disdain for it. It’s no masterpiece, but it was at least entertaining to keep my attention week by week for like an hour or two.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Alright, listening through the section where she talks about the colors now (starting at 1:03:15), and it sounds like S3 is purple and green.
S4 is yellow, which makes more sense with Lute being a "sleeper," as it would be odd to use that phrasing only to make her the main antagonist of the very next season.
S5 would go back to red, meaning it would likely be the Roo season or even Roo plus Adam returning in some capacity.
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Green is definitely Alastor, purple is definitely Lilith, or whoever the hell she actually is, because she wears a purple dress.
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S5 going back to red surprises me a bit, since not only has it not been officially greenlit yet (though I'm sure it has behind the scenes given S2 was a success), because I was pretty sure Viv wanted 6 seasons overall.
 
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