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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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It was pretty fun.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bOarXIWBtWk
Even though it has the same problem that a lot of other S1 songs have - it doesn't actually move the plot forward, and focuses on the character dynamics of characters that aren't even relevant to the main story.
It does establish that ... uh ... the weapon lady Overlord already knows about angelic weapons, and it sets up the V's and their antagonism toward the more established Overlords, but it's also a bit of an "I am" song, which is perfectly acceptable with better pacing.
Towards the end of the song, Velvette was pointing out how Carmilla seemed suspiciously irritated by the Exorcist head, as if she had something to do with it. She was more than likely trying to get her to admit in front of all the Overlords that she was responsible for the dead Exorcist. I'm curious to know what would've happened if Vox was there or what was his plan when they found the head as he called Velvette out on her behavior, yet it was implied he knew angelic weapons can kill angels based on him telling his assistant to get in contact with Carmilla for his angelic security in Episode 2 of Season 1. But in Episode 6 of Season 2 when he convinces Carmilla to supply his army, his primary source of leverage regarding her accountability is the fact that she supported Charlie in the battle that led to Adam's death, not the fact she started the whole thing by killing the Exorcist in the first place.
 
Towards the end of the song, Velvette was pointing out how Carmilla seemed suspiciously irritated by the Exorcist head, as if she had something to do with it. She was more than likely trying to get her to admit in front of all the Overlords that she was responsible for the dead Exorcist. I'm curious to know what would've happened if Vox was there or what was his plan when they found the head as he called Velvette out on her behavior, yet it was implied he knew angelic weapons can kill angels based on him telling his assistant to get in contact with Carmilla for his angelic security in Episode 2 of Season 1. But in Episode 6 of Season 2 when he convinces Carmilla to supply his army, his primary source of leverage regarding her accountability is the fact that she supported Charlie in the battle that led to Adam's death, not the fact she started the whole thing by killing the Exorcist in the first place.
Welcome to Pride ring.
 
Hopefully Shittfy dies or something, IDK.
Nah, Niffty is inoffensive, I just wish the Vox dies, the only reason he's plans work it's because of BS plot armor and contrivance

Why doesn't Lucifer kill Vox? Because he can't harm sinners.
Ok, then why can't he just summon Satan? Don't think about it.
Why does Sera have to feel bad to the sinners? Because she's a good person, and admits she's in the wrong.

idk the more people glaze over Vox's "intelligence" the more it reminds me of White Rabbit and Sister Sage, both dumbass characters that the reason why they "won" it because the writers are as dumb as what they've created.
 
Nah, Niffty is inoffensive
Chaddam. :jaceknife: (In all seriousness, she did a good job making his character feel more human in his last moments so, yay I guess?)
I just wish the Vox dies, the only reason he's plans work it's because of BS plot armor and contrivance

Why doesn't Lucifer kill Vox? Because he can't harm sinners.
Ok, then why can't he just summon Satan? Don't think about it.
Why does Sera have to feel bad to the sinners? Because she's a good person, and admits she's in the wrong.
Right! I think the cast needs "Vinny" to stick around for longer for whatever excuse. No "defeating" Adam but maybe some convoluted "defeat" (in terms of military tactics) to Vox.
idk the more people glaze over Vox's "intelligence" the more it reminds me of White Rabbit and Sister Sage, both dumbass characters that the reason why they "won" it because the writers are as dumb as what they've created.
Ah yes, the characters who are as smart as the creators of the show. Sadly, a lot of series nowadays are suffering from midwit writers who are doing... less than favourable setups and stories with contrived plots.
 
Found this on twitter

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Also this Korean artist cooked hard
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And probably sing a song about it. Now I’m wondering how alastor would react to all the mockery
"I WANT EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT ME OFF THE INTERNET! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!"
"Do you realize?"
"Do you realize your soul belongs to me?"
"...I See..."
 
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Charlieswap AU where everything is the same except Charlie is the smiling friends charlie
Edit: Like not even as the son of Lucifer he's just charlie from tge episode where he dies and goes to hell but instead hell is hazbin hotel hell
 
a gargantuan improvement over Adam as an antagonist,
I think one reason that Vox is a significantly better antagonist than Adam isn't just that he's better written and actually has some depth to him, but he's also a constant presence throughout the season, the only episode he's not in is the second, which is set entirely in Heaven besides the Pentious flashback, whereas Adam is only in the first, sixth, and final episode of S1 and he's sort of just forgotten about after that first episode until he shows back up. Sure there are some well loved villains who don't physically show up much but they're almost always the person in charge who's behind everything, so you still constantly feel their presence, or even if that's not the case at the very least when they do show up it's considered the highlight of the season or film.

Now you could make an argument that Vox has too much screen time and they should have cut a bit of it to make space for building up other major characters in desperate need of development, but considering he's easily the best character this season I don't mind too much.
 
Towards the end of the song, Velvette was pointing out how Carmilla seemed suspiciously irritated by the Exorcist head, as if she had something to do with it. She was more than likely trying to get her to admit in front of all the Overlords that she was responsible for the dead Exorcist. I'm curious to know what would've happened if Vox was there or what was his plan when they found the head as he called Velvette out on her behavior, yet it was implied he knew angelic weapons can kill angels based on him telling his assistant to get in contact with Carmilla for his angelic security in Episode 2 of Season 1. But in Episode 6 of Season 2 when he convinces Carmilla to supply his army, his primary source of leverage regarding her accountability is the fact that she supported Charlie in the battle that led to Adam's death, not the fact she started the whole thing by killing the Exorcist in the first place.
The fact that Vox didn't bring that up to Carmilla when he gets her to join his side makes the whole Velvette/Carmilla song kind of pointless. Which is a pretty good way to describe Velvette in general. You could remove her entirely from the show and there would be very minimal change. Which is a shame cause her character could work. She's the backbone of the Vees, so show us a couple of scenes of her being that.
 
The second, third, forth, fifth and sixth one all look like some sort of chamber of some kind? Like one used for siphoning power, could the rumors about Vox using Lucifer as a battery actually be real? 🤔
 
The second, third, forth, fifth and sixth one all look like some sort of chamber of some kind? Like one used for siphoning power, could the rumors about Vox using Lucifer as a battery actually be real? 🤔
Considering Vox literally ended E6 by laughing about how they were tricking Lucifer into being the weapon's power source, probably.
 
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