Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

3. Heaven characters are all absolute retards. Can’t believe I’m saying this but I hope Heaven falls and dies. Hopefully that insufferable Charlie clone kicks the bucket first.

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Also the fact that they brought Lute alone for the apology is genuinely hilarious. There's literally zero reason for her to be there except to make shit fall through and they still made her tag along lmao

 

[make_it_so]

Also the fact that they brought Lute alone for the apology is genuinely hilarious. There's literally zero reason for her to be there except to make shit fall through and they still made her tag along lmao

I don't have Prime so I'm only learning shit through clips and what ya'll say here. And from the bit I have seen, I like how she was very clearly on edge the entire time. I really like how she was looking like some kind of vigilant predator with the way they had her perched.

It's the kind of posture that 100% makes sense for her character given both her purpose and training as a soldier and her very unpleasant previous experience in Hell, as well as the situation the characters were finding themselves in. Though I'm sure the actual intention of the animators was probably to further dehumanize her and paint her as villain.

 

[King Metalia]

Man, this show doesn't even get basic theology right, fuckin' hell.

From the Book of Don Bluth:

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Is Don Bluth god of this thread now?

 

[Mola Ram]

Vivienne could never write a sequence this affecting:
goodbye charlie.mov

To be fair, Burt Reynolds's performance had an immensely unfair advantage in that he was delivering lines to a voice actress who had been murdered.

But to be equally fair, the Hazbin writers are obviously not capable of this level of sincerity, either.

 

[EzRolling]

I think I figured out why [at least in my case] why the songs in S2 seem lacking compared to S1. Most of the songs in S2 fail to move the story forward. In S1 three minutes of song tended to progress the story by about six minutes of story. Cannibals being convinced to join in the defense of the hotel, Vaggie being trained on fighting angels, heaven being asked why Angel Dust wasn’t being redeemed [plus the other angels learning of the extermination, Emily pushing back against the head seraphim], etc all happened in songs and moved the story forward quite a bit.

In S2 though a lot of the songs just end up returning us to where we were in the story. For instance “Easy” (Vaggi and Charlie’s song) doesn’t really accomplish anything story wise. “Trust Us” [the portion focused on the Vees] simply reiterated everything we’ve known about them from the beginning of the series. “Piss” also didn’t do much either and was kind of forgotten about on Sir Pentious’ end.

“Love in a Bottle” definitely was one of the better songs in this aspect. Seeing Husk who mostly had his demons in check fall back into old habits and becoming more dysfunctional was good. From falling into it with “Just one won’t hurt” mentality, to being consumed and feeling these old vices were the only thing that mattered and what he was meant for, to snapping back that he actually does care about others.

 

[Mola Ram]

Most of the songs in S2 fail to move the story forward.

This is a problem with the season in general. For a 25 minute show, the pace is absolutely glacial, and stuffed with padding. How many times did we see Lute is furious over Adam? How many times did we see Charlie has turned deeply neurotic? How many times have we seen Vaggie picking up the slack of running the hotel?

It feels like this season's story arc could have been told in 90 minutes.

 

[macrodegenerate]

To be fair, Burt Reynolds's performance had an immensely unfair advantage in that he was delivering lines to a voice actress who had been murdered.

But to be equally fair, the Hazbin writers are obviously not capable of this level of sincerity, either.

Not just a voice actress, but an actual actress. She starred in an after school special about coping with the death of a loved one.

 

[Mola Ram]

Not just a voice actress, but an actual actress. She starred in an after school special about coping with the death of a loved one.

Either way, I have no idea how Reynolds did it without collapsing into a sobbing mess. He almost does. Respect to that man.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

Has anyone made any good YTPs of Hazbin, yet?

 

[EzRolling]

This is a problem with the season in general. For a 25 minute show, the pace is absolutely glacial, and stuffed with padding. How many times did we see Lute is furious over Adam? How many times did we see Charlie has turned deeply neurotic? How many times have we seen Vaggie picking up the slack of running the hotel?

It feels like this season's story arc could have been told in 90 minutes.

Hell probably even less than 90. And fuck “Gravity” is a great example of songs accomplishing almost nothing narratively this season; which kind of sucks since as a song it was better than most this season.

Rewatching Breaking Bad and forgot how packed those episodes are especially towards the end of S4. An animated musical that has the ability to make huge story progress in the span of minutes (which happened often in S1) should definitely move faster than a realistic gritty drama.

For now the show seems really content just hitting you over the head with the same plot elements 80% of the time.

 

[RavioliHabit]

To be fair, Burt Reynolds's performance had an immensely unfair advantage in that he was delivering lines to a voice actress who had been murdered.

But to be equally fair, the Hazbin writers are obviously not capable of this level of sincerity, either.

Oh my god, this is how I find out that the little girl in All Dogs Go To Heaven is the same actress who played Ducky in The Land Before Time. Holy shit. That gives this scene an entirely new sad depth. Aw man.

For anyone who doesn't know:

Spoiler

The little girl Judith Barsi, who voiced Ducky, and Anne-Marie in this movie, was brutally beaten for years by her alcoholic father. A few months before her murder, she told her friends "I'm afraid to go home. My daddy is miserable. My daddy is drunk every day and I know he wants to kill my mom." Her father eventually took his gun and shot her mother, and then went into little Judith's room and murdered her while she was tucked in bed. Her gravestone has Ducky's catchphrase from The Land Before Time on it, "Yep, Yep Yep!"

 

[Mola Ram]

Hell probably even less than 90. And fuck “Gravity” is a great example of songs accomplishing almost nothing narratively this season; which kind of sucks since as a song it was better than most this season.

Rewatching Breaking Bad and forgot how packed those episodes are especially towards the end of S4. An animated musical that has the ability to make huge story progress in the span of minutes (which happened often in S1) should definitely move faster than a realistic gritty drama.

For now the show seems really content just hitting you over the head with the same plot elements 80% of the time.

I would argue the cold open alone of Breaking Bad's pilot accomplishes more than these 6 episodes.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

And fuck “Gravity” is a great example of songs accomplishing almost nothing narratively this season; which kind of sucks since as a song it was better than most this season.

While it's not needed narratively (as we're well aware of Lute's character and motivation already), every minute with Lute is a treat and another minute we don't have to put up with the annoying ass hell cast.

At least the psycho grieving karen has pathos.

 

[Argos]

Vivziepop has done little to show any actual downside to spending eternity in the meaningless hedonistic depravity and anarchy that would make her Hell

Hell is supposed to be filled with natural hazards outside if the sinners, according to the old interviews. But we never see any in the show. All we see are sinners being assholes to each other because they can. They don't give a shit about each other, Vox's propaganda at the rally not withstanding . Even if they took over Heaven they'd still be fucking miserable because they're still themselves.

"Wherever you go, there you are."


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[man_made_of_meat]

Is Don Bluth god of this thread now?

As he is still to this day a God in the animation world together with Richard Williams, the thing with Don Bluth and movies such as The secret of Nimh for example is that you, as an adult, can dive into the plot and equally enjoy the show like a child would because they treat very complex themes in a down to earth but narratively fantasized way. In my spergy wishful idea of what-could-have-been, Hell would be far far far much more interesting with an Hazbin concept following Don Bluth standards, swearing not necessary, maybe the parallelism to a "modern city idea" would still be there but far more creepy, and a wider range of interesting and fun character designs, just as a start.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Wtf happened to that Don Bluth Dragons Lair kickstarter thing from like a decade ago?

 

[man_made_of_meat]

Wtf happened to that Don Bluth Dragons Lair kickstarter thing from like a decade ago?

It was seemingly cancelled

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

It was seemingly cancelled

 

[Strangolapreti]

Do you think viziepop's animations will really remain a memorable thing remembered for ages, much like Breaking Bad, Fallout new Vegas, Shrek and The lion king or there will be no everlasting legacy aside of Loona being a furry porn superstar?

 

[Dr. Charles Forbin]

Do you think viziepop's animations will really remain a memorable thing remembered for ages, much like Breaking Bad, Fallout new Vegas, Shrek and The lion king or there will be no everlasting legacy aside of Loona being a furry porn superstar?

Hopefully as a lesson for future aspiring animators on what to avoid doing
Otherwise no. The show is vantablack niggerstone and is incredibly forgettable. I'd bet in less than a year or so after the final season there will be some new troonslop for the faggot fans to swarm