Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[LucasSomething]

Damn, it's that shit where people kept shipping Draco and Harry. They didn't get along and didn't even become friends after turning into adults - they were just less at odds with each other.
Lucifer just seems like he wants to say "STFU Allstar, you nigger" in a more polite tone, while Alastor keeps provoking everyone because he's an asshole. On a series like this, you start wondering why pairings even exist, even.
Huh... I guess it's not as worse as AIDS dating Monkeypox - I mean "Pete" and "Bel".

The interesting part of about Harry/Draco is that it had an absurd modern surge of popularity from people who never read the books and don't want to read the books because they don't care about canon, they care about some out of context lines, tiktok edits of handsome actors and slow burn enemies to lover fanfics. Same with marauder shipping, it's basically it's own subculture of yaoi fangirls.

This always existed but i blame Undertale AUs and it's consequences to canon rejection online discourse. I even had someone tell me they don't care about queerbait because a ship not being canon means people will keep making content.

It's funny because so many people got upset when people were shipping Alastor with Charlie because it was....erasure of his asexuality; besides the fact that a character's sexuality never stops shippers from shipping. They were okay with Alastor being shipped with any of the male characters because, "it's still queer so it's okay".

There is also the somehow much dumber alternative of "asexuality is a SPECTRUM so Alastor can be ace and still enjoy gay sex!"

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

It's funny because so many people got upset when people were shipping Alastor with Charlie because it was....erasure of his asexuality; besides the fact that a character's sexuality never stops shippers from shipping. They were okay with Alastor being shipped with any of the male characters because, "it's still queer so it's okay".

Shows where these faggots get their priorities. And also how much "normalcy" makes them afraid.

The interesting part of about Harry/Draco is that it had an absurd modern surge of popularity from people who never read the books and don't want to read the books because they don't care about canon, they care about some out of context lines, tiktok edits of handsome actors and slow burn enemies to lover fanfics. Same with marauder shipping, it's basically it's own subculture of yaoi fangirls.

Right, it's just "two pretty men", sort of. Also fucking pooner cosplayers. If they were Quasimodo-looking motherfuckers, I swear these yaoi bitches would be singing a different tune.

This always existed but i blame Undertale AUs and it's consequences to canon rejection online discourse. I even had someone tell me they don't care about queerbait because a ship not being canon means people will keep making content.

You have no idea how much I hate Alternate Universes, especially in shipping. Example: "RadioApple Poopypants Vomit AU". What the FUCK does this mean, nigger? Can't these retards just say "I wanted to imagine Alastor and Lucifer in a situation atypical to where they are".
How about one where they are two people who hardly see each other to eye, are cosplayers, yet live in a bad part of town where they struggle hard with their reality? They need to pay the bills, and so on so forth, but also have their life. Not in an "oW tHe EdGe" sense, more in a "let's pretend we are the characters every 3 months or so to bring joy or something". That would still be retarded, but less so than a fucking "Alternate Universe".
I particularly blame Marvel with the Multiverse concept, but yeah - Der Untergang Undertale was a massive intellectual toxin on the brain of denizens of internet and shippers.

 

[graywolf88]

You have no idea how much I hate Alternate Universes, especially in shipping.

Shitty or ridiculous AUs have existed for as long as fanfiction has existed.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

There is also the somehow much dumber alternative of "asexuality is a SPECTRUM so Alastor can be ace and still enjoy gay sex!"

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Let's just keep changing the definitions because words have no meaning anymore. You can now claim to be a homosexual, but still have sex with he opposite gender because screw you I said so.

Also why would someone want to get into a romantic relationship with someone that doesn't feel the least bit sexually and/or romantically attracted to you? It reminds me of this comic I saw before, and it's kind of just sad, even though I know the author didn't intend it to be.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Let's just keep changing the definitions because words have no meaning anymore. You can now claim to be a homosexual, but still have sex with he opposite gender because screw you I said so.

Also why would someone want to get into a romantic relationship with someone that doesn't feel the least bit sexually and/or romantically attracted to you? It reminds me of this comic I saw before, and it's kind of just sad, even though I know the author didn't intend it to be.
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Right. This means absolutely nothing.
Funny thing about "ace" or "acing" something. Well, that means you are top of the class/work or you "aced" an exam. Go figure how dumbasses think "ACE" means "A-CE-CK-SUAL".

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

The worst thing is this not only also applies to two male characters being friends means that there must be a sexual element thrown in, but the recent push to where every real life historical figure who wasn't married or even just had a notable male friend at one point in their lives must have been gay.

The funniest thing about this retarded push is that it basically never includes a female historical figure, it showcases that they really just want to imagine Leonardo Da Vinci having gay sex with one of his students.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

The worst thing is this not only also applies to two male characters being friends means that there must be a sexual element thrown in, but the recent push to where every real life historical figure who wasn't married or even just had a notable male friend at one point in their lives must have been gay.

The funniest thing about this retarded push is that it basically never includes a female historical figure, it showcases that they really just want to imagine Leonardo Da Vinci having gay sex with one of his students.

Æthelstan, first king of England, had this treatment in "The Last Kingdom: Seven Kings Must Die". Nevermind he was deeply religious, and believed Deuteronomy 23 when speaking about "Bastards not entering the congregation" meant it applied to him as well - since Edward and Ecgwynn didn't marry before a priest. So he didn't want his children to suffer, and never married - that and coupled with Edward the Elder having another lineage as well with Edmund and Edgar from Ælfgifu.
But alas, no, the movie made him a homo. Because of course.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

The worst thing is this not only also applies to two male characters being friends means that there must be a sexual element thrown in, but the recent push to where every real life historical figure who wasn't married or even just had a notable male friend at one point in their lives must have been gay.

The funniest thing about this retarded push is that it basically never includes a female historical figure, it showcases that they really just want to imagine Leonardo Da Vinci having gay sex with one of his students.

Think it's a mix of antisocial behavior and hypersexualization that has come to this. People now view any sort of affection and/or care for another as romantic love. For them, any other love like platonic or familial is just not a thing.

It's also why I think there is rise of asexuality/aromantic. Because they're not wanting to fuck everyone constantly and/or are not actively looking for a partner, that means they are different from the norm. Because what they see as normal is people wanting sex all the time. But for a lot of people, that is not the case.

 

[The tired cat]

There is also the somehow much dumber alternative of "asexuality is a SPECTRUM so Alastor can be ace and still enjoy gay sex!"

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There isn't a middle finger big enough in the whole fucking galaxy. Thanks Viv, huge thanks for such shit. Fuck me, this bitch is more performative than fucking Rowling.

 

[Sonya-chan]

Let's just keep changing the definitions because words have no meaning anymore. You can now claim to be a homosexual, but still have sex with he opposite gender because screw you I said so.

Also why would someone want to get into a romantic relationship with someone that doesn't feel the least bit sexually and/or romantically attracted to you? It reminds me of this comic I saw before, and it's kind of just sad, even though I know the author didn't intend it to be.
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"You were good at sex"
So you feel sexual pleasure... So you're not asexual... You just consider your partner as a living fleshlight.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

"You were good at sex"
So you feel sexual pleasure... So you're not asexual... You just consider your partner as a living fleshlight.

I mean it’s pretty clear in the comic, even if the artist didn’t intend that. Imagine absently scrolling on your phone during serious post sex talk, not even looking your partner in the eye as you say “You’re a good lay, but not attractive to me at all.” Most they get is a condescending little nose boop. If that were me, I’d be throwing her inconsiderate ass out without giving her a chance to put her underwear back on.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I mean it’s pretty clear in the comic, even if the artist didn’t intend that. Imagine absently scrolling on your phone during serious post sex talk, not even looking your partner in the eye as you say “You’re a good lay, but not attractive to me at all.” Most they get is a condescending little nose boop. If that were me, I’d be throwing her inconsiderate ass out without giving her a chance to put her underwear back on.

It's pretty much a sociopath talking, you could say.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

I mean it’s pretty clear in the comic, even if the artist didn’t intend that. Imagine absently scrolling on your phone during serious post sex talk, not even looking your partner in the eye as you say “You’re a good lay, but not attractive to me at all.” Most they get is a condescending little nose boop. If that were me, I’d be throwing her inconsiderate ass out without giving her a chance to put her underwear back on.

It's pretty much a sociopath talking, you could say.

That's the thing I have noticed with a lot of people that claim to be asexual. They have all these kinks and still very much enjoy sex; they just don't feel a sexual attraction to the person/people they may do it with. Which is probably just another take on the way our world is (especially the western sides of things) now; where people do thing for their own enjoyment without the concern for others. It doesn't matter how others feel; it only matters how YOU feel.

And I'm not saying that you shouldn't care for yourself at all. But when that care is only towards yourself and is not to the people who are close to you at all, that is when it becomes a problem.

 

[Clancee]

The whole asexual thing is a crock of shit. How the hell did the term for plants reproducing without fertilization get bastardized like this.

 

[Beggamania]

The whole asexual thing is a crock of shit. How the hell did the term for plants reproducing without fertilization get bastardized like this.

Fr. Severe lack of testosterone/estrogen is a disease(sexual need is a need for a reason), and voluntarily not seeking relationships isn't sexuality either. Y'all hate on trannies, but these attention seeking morons don't get nearly enough hate

PS: the cope levels of that comic in previous pages are unreal, ahahaaa. "I don't do sex, but I did and I liked it. But I actually don't do it, dood - Dontchaggedit??" xDDD

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The whole asexual thing is a crock of shit. How the hell did the term for plants reproducing without fertilization get bastardized like this.

Quite frequently, it's because they're gooners and real people don't turn them on anymore.

 

[Exegesis]

> Season 2 will be eight episodes long
> some episodes are longer than others "depending on what was needed"

Vivziepop just admit you need more than eight episodes 'cause you're clearly struggling with that creative constraint

Far too many shows are trying to do the 40 minutes to an hour with 8 episodes per season method. I hate this switch in the format because it without fail results in at least 2 episodes being dragged out with another episode being too fast pace.
The preferable standard for most episodes in general is 15-30 minutes for a reason; you have more flexibility since splitting up what would be a 50 minute episode into 2 parts allows for you to place a nice cliffhanger. You also end up with slightly more time in the production process since the release period for the episodes is now doubled in length at least.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Far too many shows are trying to do the 40 minutes to an hour with 8 episodes per season method. I hate this switch in the format because it without fail results in at least 2 episodes being dragged out with another episode being too fast pace.
The preferable standard for most episodes in general is 15-30 minutes for a reason; you have more flexibility since splitting up what would be a 50 minute episode into 2 parts allows for you to place a nice cliffhanger. You also end up with slightly more time in the production process since the release period for the episodes is now doubled in length at least.

The pacing will also be shit because of the inconsistent runtime for each episode. One episode will be 22 minutes and then the next will be something like 27 minutes long. That's going to make some parts of the story undeveloped and other parts being way too bloated.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Let's just keep changing the definitions because words have no meaning anymore. You can now claim to be a homosexual, but still have sex with he opposite gender because screw you I said so.

Also why would someone want to get into a romantic relationship with someone that doesn't feel the least bit sexually and/or romantically attracted to you? It reminds me of this comic I saw before, and it's kind of just sad, even though I know the author didn't intend it to be.
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So are these two in a relationship or what? I know it's possible for asexual people to pursue romantic relationships, but I don't think they have sex to give it a shot.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

The pacing will also be shit because of the inconsistent runtime for each episode. One episode will be 22 minutes and then the next will be something like 27 minutes long. That's going to make some parts of the story undeveloped and other parts being way too bloated.

Considering Viv has total control over Helluva Boss to where its episodes can be both longer and more numerous, and it's pacing is still very flawed, having a few extra minutes for a couple episodes won't help at all. Even if Hazbin got more episodes during it's third season, knowing how Helluva gave two episodes back-to-back focused on Fizz, she'd probably waste it on focusing on a character not many people care about and whose role in the main plot is minimal.