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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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LucasSomething said:
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Honestly if the show didn't decide to rush to the "we must battle with Heaven" and just focused on Hell the season, we could have probably had time to explore that. The only sold soul we know the history about is Husk and all we know is he was an overlord that gambled all of the souls he owned and his own soul to Alastor.

Which by the way, even worst foreshadowing to the reveal than Vaggie. Like we should have gotten some hints before episode 4. But all we got was this one shot of Husk's shadow in the pilot episode when Vaggie was giving exposition on Alastor. Which might not even be canon because I don't know which state the pilot is to the story. Also Nifty is there so I guess she might have been an overlord as well? Get ready for that not to be answered since she is a straight woman and that means no exploration of her character. during-the-pilot-when-all-the-overlords-are-shown-we-can-v0-i9osoahk85nc1.webp
Anyway, the pilot did achive more than the show on how truly chaotic Hell really is here. Besides the intro song, we also have a few instances of seeing what happens outside the hotel walls, and an entire turf war (which for the longest time I theorized that's how people would get souls). But for the show with eight episodes, we get...the first song of the season that shows the life of Hell. The world is so empty. Hellborns in Helluva Boss, the show that was once free on Youtube, feel more overpopulated than the Sinners in Hazbin Hotel...the show that should have been bigger in quality and quantity because it got picked up.
LucasSomething said:
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The idea that Hellborns are somehow spared in the exterminations will never not feel stupid to me. Besides the fact that angels should not care since they would view Hellborn even more sinful than Sinners and are most likely contributing to more people ending up in Hell, but just because they couldn't even tell the difference between them. They're not going to stop and ask, "Hey are you a Sinner or a Hellborn." They're going to kill right on the spot and only realize what they had killed depending on the color of blood that is being spilled on the floor.
 
So I saw the short and...it was fine. I don't know. I guess because I know that these mini episodes aren't going to affect the main show anyway. I guess if you ever experienced road rage this might be relatable? I mean, I haven't and I drive, which is more to say than for half of the audience who aren't old enough.

Also, with the way the man looked while he was driving, I thought it was going to be revealed he was possessed by a demon. But no. It was another incest joke. Which maybe could have worked even a little bit, but because not only did Blitzø mention he was going to do the exact same thing that was the reveal, we also were given a warning even before the episode aired. 7711178-bb4c71540ffdec8818c275f258eacdfd.webp
There was no chance of a shock because we already knew what kind of person he was. Stop revealing things for future episodes.
 
I first watched HH, just because I saw alot of critique of it, and I was like "Can it really be THAT bad? Surely it can't be THAT bad?"

This is tying into what some people sai above. But when I first saw the leak from season 2 saying that the show will spend more time in Heaven than Hell? Why!!!?????? Yeah, the show is much better just focusing on Hell for many reasons, especially right now, but everything and everyone there is SO underdeveloped, rushed, and under explained. Are we gonna get another Plankton vs Mr.Krabs lawsuit moment?

We know that Heaven is just a clusterfuck of everything. A clusterfuck of making no sense, nonsense and stupidity that clearly isn't fully intetional, (and this is the least jarring, as of just season one tbh lol) even more mischarcterizing figures that have existed for thousands of years so jarringly that even antitheists hate it. (Still lmao @ them not knowing that St.Peter isn't white. )

We all know the Angels vs Hell battle was too soon. Obviously this whole conflict unfolding is too soon. But, they've confirmed several seasons now... Even if the slow they pacing down (they won't lol), why "spend more time in Heaven than Hell" now? I don't even want to watch this shit. Of course, I won't critique it if I don't, but damn.
 
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WhiteNiggasGardens said:
I first watched HH, just because I saw alot of critique of it, and I was like "Can it really be THAT bad? Surely it can't be THAT bad?"

This is tying into what some people sai above. But when I first saw the leak from season 2 saying that the show will spend more time in Heaven than Hell? Why!!!?????? Yeah, the show is much better just focusing on Hell for many reasons, especially right now, but everything and everyone there is SO underdeveloped, rushed, and under explained. Are gonna get another Plankton vs Mr.Krabs lawsuit moment?

We know that Heaven is just a clusterfuck of everything. A clusterfuck of making no sense, nonsense and stupidity that clearly isn't fully intetional, (and this is the least jarring, as of just season one tbh lol) even more mischarcterizing figures that have existed for thousands of years so jarringly that even antitheists hate it.

We all know the Heaven vs Hell battle was too soon. Obviously this whole conflic unfolding is too soon. But, they've confirmed several seasons now... Even if the slow the pacing down (they won't lol), why "spend more time in Heaven than Hell" now? Not even gonna watch this shit. Of course, I won't rag on what I won't watch, but I just don't want to.
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If that's the case, I wonder whether Vivzie's OC deer will make another cameo?
 
cryptidfuck said:
I'm sorry but why does Loona have an entirely too-human face in this screen cap. Like either make it anime-esque and go all the way with the "wolf" or have your human-faced dog shit actually look like what it's supposed to be. There are too many artists, and nobody can stay consistent or on-model to begin with.
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They did the same with Stolas, he went from full owl to bishounen yaoi face at the end of the season 2 for some reasons.
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InJailOutSoon said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=52_V04weeC4So I saw the short and...it was fine. I don't know. I guess because I know that these mini episodes aren't going to affect the main show anyway. I guess if you ever experienced road rage this might be relatable? I mean, I haven't and I drive, which is more to say than for half of the audience who aren't old enough.

Also, with the way the man looked while he was driving, I thought it was going to be revealed he was possessed by a demon. But no. It was another incest joke. Which maybe could have worked even a little bit, but because not only did Blitzø mention he was going to do the exact same thing that was the reveal, we also were given a warning even before the episode aired.View attachment 7726925
There was no chance of a shock because we already knew what kind of person he was. Stop revealing things for future episodes.
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That was actually retarded.
 
At this point it should be called imh immediate murders for hire instead of imp because so far nothing is professional about them
 
Niggerphobe said:
At this point it should be called imh immediate murders for hire instead of imp because so far nothing is professional about them
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They're professional by Hell standards, which is to say not very. Besides, Blitzø named the company. What do you expect?
 
I feel like her comedy has gotten worse. Like in this one there wasn't anything funny.

No rules of 3 followed (Blowing son)
Incest again when I thought she said she would stop that.
No swears were funny (him talking about fucking the shit in his stomach was beyond cringe. That is worse then his swear combo with Loonas visit.)
Yelling so loud
The faces Blitzo was making were not funny and looked strange.

This honestly feels like shes regressing, I expect the next short to be about Blitzo shaking keys at the camera while scream singing about getting fucked in his ass.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=52_V04weeC4So I saw the short and...it was fine. I don't know. I guess because I know that these mini episodes aren't going to affect the main show anyway. I guess if you ever experienced road rage this might be relatable? I mean, I haven't and I drive, which is more to say than for half of the audience who aren't old enough.

Also, with the way the man looked while he was driving, I thought it was going to be revealed he was possessed by a demon. But no. It was another incest joke. Which maybe could have worked even a little bit, but because not only did Blitzø mention he was going to do the exact same thing that was the reveal, we also were given a warning even before the episode aired.View attachment 7726925
There was no chance of a shock because we already knew what kind of person he was. Stop revealing things for future episodes.
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While a meh short, there is still things it for me to sperg about.

You can't just bring up how killing humans who have no hit on them is huge risk after having a innocent bystander get his head blown off earlier (watching it again, I realized it was a cop, so what did Vivzie mean by this?) or with Blitzo killing people nonchalantly in "Seeing Stars" episode. The red hat was lazy political commentary along with the billboard being a swipe at Christians (I will it admit it was a clever gag). The payoff seems like it was done in response to the previous short because they wanted to make this guy utterly irredeemable. This is where throwing nuance away and safe edgy gets you.
 
The Nothingness said:
While a meh short, there is still things it for me to sperg about.

You can't just bring up how killing humans who have no hit on them is huge risk after having a innocent bystander get his head blown off earlier (watching it again, I realized it was a cop, so what did Vivzie mean by this?) or with Blitzo killing people nonchalantly in "Seeing Stars" episode. The red hat was lazy political commentary along with the billboard being a swipe at Christians (I will it admit it was a clever gag). The payoff seems like it was done in response to the previous short because they wanted to make this guy utterly irredeemable. This is where throwing nuance away and safe edgy gets you.
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Basically this was all a jab about republicans because of the racist guy that was the initial hit, the "maga hat", incest with a barely legal adult, and it all being in New Mexico. They should have just went all the way then and had the guy wanting to stop his 16 year old daughter from getting an abortion that he conceived with her. But I guess that would have been too much for them, especially after the backlash of Barbie Wire saying how easy teenage humans are to manipulate that they had to make a Twitter post saying "the counselor she's flirting with is totally 18 guys".
 
Better than expected, but somehow worse than the last short. Got a slight chuckle at the "loitered racistly" and the guy revealing that he was in his way to blow his son but the rest was just things happening, I don't know how to describe it but this one in particular feels like a low point where you can't even get entertainment of how bad it is, it's the definition of average.

And yeah wow did this guy sure deserve it incest sucks controversial I know... they are not even trying anymore and I hate it because these shorts are supposed to be a band-aid for the fact that the actual series has become a mexican telenovela but if this is the quality that we are gonna keep receiving I would rather have nothing. Also I want to point out that the asmodeus crystal now also can transport large objects like Blitzo's van somehow.

Anyways, where in Viv's sharkrobot store can I buy my white man hat?

InJailOutSoon said:
They don't even feel like the same person.
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Because they aren't, first half of S1 Stolas is a different character that ended up being replaced with a lookalike.
 
The Nothingness said:
You can't just bring up how killing humans who have no hit on them is huge risk after having a innocent bystander get his head blown off earlier (watching it again, I realized it was a cop, so what did Vivzie mean by this?) or with Blitzo killing people nonchalantly in "Seeing Stars" episode.
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Maybe the line is meant to lampshade how killing humans doesn't matter.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
Basically this was all a jab about republicans because of the racist guy that was the initial hit, the "maga hat", incest with a barely legal adult, and it all being in New Mexico. They should have just went all the way then and had the guy wanting to stop his 16 year old daughter from getting an abortion that he conceived with her. But I guess that would have been too much for them, especially after the backlash of Barbie Wire saying how easy teenage humans are to manipulate that they had to make a Twitter post saying "the counselor she's flirting with is totally 18 guys".
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Then why pick a state that went to Kamala in the last election?
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They aren't going to let Moxxie actually be a good marksman, i.e. his one thing, and get a kill ever, are they (I know he killed that guy at the end, that doesn't count since he could barely move). He nailed that woman through the eye in "Murder Family" and that's it. This is why you don't have a "firearms expert" in a show built around elaborate fight scenes and action sequences.

At least he and Blitzo are getting along, I guess?
 
The latest short felt very mediocre imo. Most of the jokes don't land that well, the swearing is just kinda there (yes I know it's in the context of road rage, but a funny side effect of basically everyone in the show asides from Moxxie and Stolas having a sailor's mouth is that it's hard to tell when they're genuinely swearing because of anger or they're just talking normally) and the plot structure felt very barebones. When they showed the reckless drivers' face looking worried I immediately knew he was driving for a shitty reason because the show is in love with comedic subversion, so the twist didn't land to me, and asides from that, all there is to the short is just Blitz driving angrily whilst Mox complains, that's it really. This feels like it could be done in 1 min instead of 5, couldn't they have used the 5 minutes for something more creative? Or at least have Moxxie or Blitz do more than just bicker against each other?

Besides that, I don't think the message of the short is bad per se. I think the writing could've been done a lot better/more nuianced, but moxxie learning to not always believe the best of people, even when blatantly displayed otherwise, is an okay step for his character (not that the show will remember). The problem is that the first episode already went over this in a far better way, so this is retreading the same ground, but whatever. On its own the short can at least stand on its two feet, even if barely.

Unless I read the episode wrong and the central message is that Moxxie should believe/listen to his boss more. Blitz is fucking stupid. Moxxie was right about the mission being complete and being able to go home and fuck off, making the shitty driver incident personal could've caused a lot more trouble than it's worth. It's not like Blitz cared on a moral level either, he was just upset. If Moxxie stops being the straigh man of the show it might be over.
 
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