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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Ignoring the joke spoiler, is anyone really that surprised? It's pretty obvious Viv wanted at least a couple of more episodes, but A24 only gave her 8. Or most likely gave her 16 episodes but separated it into 2 seasons, as that is pretty much industry standard at this point.

His wording is a bit confusing though. Does he mean that the first episode of season 2 was supposed to be the season finale episode, or that things in the season 2 episode was supposed to be in the finale? I assume the latter since, even those it was rushed as hell, the season 1 finale felt like a finale episode.
I could be that the finale was meant to be a two-parter or it could also be like HB were the real finale felt more like a bonus episode. But hold on, didn't the leaks show that the first episode of the season will be the one of Pentious in heaven? Was that supposed to be in season 1?
 
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I could be that the finale was meant to be a two-parter or it could also be like HB were the real finale felt more like a bonus episode. But hold on, didn't the leaks show that the first episode of the season will be the one of Pentious in heaven? Was that supposed to be in season 1?
That's episode 2 of the next season. We haven't gotten anything leak wise for the first episode.
 
That's every """rich democratic-liberal/nepotistic baby""" with guilty conscience. Pretty much.


Yeah, but giving depth to someone like Blitzo, who for the most part is just a "FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER SUCK MY NUTS BITCH" is just pointless. He's more "hilarious" being a cunt, or something, right?
An interesting take looking at this its kind of creative. Nuts? I feel like its something thats not in Viv's vocabulary. I have never once heard a character talk about their testicles. Cock, ass, dick, pussy (barely), and even taint (rare) but I don't ever recall a joke where they talk about that organ. I wonder what shes so afraid of.
 
An interesting take looking at this its kind of creative. Nuts? I feel like its something thats not in Viv's vocabulary. I have never once heard a character talk about their testicles. Cock, ass, dick, pussy (barely), and even taint (rare) but I don't ever recall a joke where they talk about that organ. I wonder what shes so afraid of.
Maybe she’s allergic to nuts
 
> "grrrr fucking authority!!!!"

> works with Jeff Bezos and Amazon for her gay demon musical while the employees in the warehouses work themselves to death



I swear Viv acts like the rich people she's trying to present as bad (unless they're Stolas). She's only an advocate when it suits her because making everyone in her shows lgbt is giving me that pride flag logo in the month of June vibes.
I try to not politisperg too much these days but I can't help but think Vivzie sees herself as the ideal "champagne socialist " she feels bad having to work with/for bezos and Amazon and knows people not working for a to z on a corporate level like her don't have it as easy. But she works hard as a thinker, an activist, and an artist. She probably sees herself as a second coming of those Soviet animators who made all those artsy and expressive films in the cold war era.

Or as animal farm once put it.


"The pigs needed the windfall milk and apples because they worked so hard keeping the farm in order. If they didn't get sugar on their tables, or sleep in proper beds, or drink their whiskey...then the farm would surley fall back in the hands of jones."
These kinds of entertainers always whine about how evil capitalism is, yet they're the ones who benefit from it the most.
 
Speaking of best girls, apart from being rude to the protagonist Glitz and Glam did literally nothing wrong, despite being "villains". And, let's be honest, they were better showmen than that faggot jester.
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Speaking of best girls, apart from being rude to the protagonist Glitz and Glam did literally nothing wrong, despite being "villains". And, let's be honest, they were better showmen than that faggot jester.
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Not only that Fizz technically is part of the problem too. I know they said they are fine being exploited, but what Fizz seems to talk about too is that Mammon actually abuses him (chains him up, hits him, starves him, and probably other things.) He shouldn't be acting like a fucking child and crying because of his spot. he should of been doing it in a way of protection (that he feels like he has to have it because others shouldn't suffer his abuse.) That should be more of been more of his arch other that shitty relationship issue.

From what the show made of Fizz is that. He was the best, eventally being burned for it and left in ruin. Mammon came and made him the best again, so in his psychological sense he would feel that he owes him and also doesn't want anyone to suffer that pain of stardom (because thats all he knows.). Fame for him as always been his downfall in different ways, but its the only thing he knows is to perform. Seeing fans and seeing others where he is there physically and practically. In his brain when they tell him (especially that shitty little deaf kid.) That they ALL WANNA BE LIKE HIM they want to be famous too. And because he is being held and abused by his boss he can't tell them the truth thats why he competes so hard so that others can't have that spot so that they can't be burned like he has.

Glitz and Glam should be a representation of him before it all (in his brain) and be the first ones to actually get to know that. They would be the reperesentation of him as a child when he was preforming (young, naive, hopeful, and to a small crowd that humbled him.) Fizz should be trying to tell them they shouldn't compete BECAUSE its not what its cracked up to be, but thats all he knows. He should actively be trying to tell them what is facing them. As Mammon is most likely going to abuse them way harder than Fizz because, let's face it they are women and Mammon has been written to be a misogynist no way hes not going to fuck with them in ways he couldn't with Fizz. Fizz should have an incredibly rich and interesting complex because of what Viv has set for him. He should be viewing himself is the only thing he can provide that hes worthy is his image. He should have a warped sense of self and be disassociating in some way (having sex robots or robots that wonder around that look like him, being plastered on everything.) This should be him finally gaining control over himself and beginning to make his own decisions to gain his own AGENCY.

But currently how its written he comes off as arrogant, prideful, incredibly selfish, and lacks depth. So his arch for this is that he leaves one master for another master. Wow Viv, thats so brave.
 
let's face it they are women and Mammon has been written to be a misogynist no way hes not going to fuck with them in ways he couldn't with Fizz
Something something bad to be a woman in Vivzie's works

But yeah, Fizz gets a ridiculous amount of focus for how unimportant he is. They could have spent an episode showing what Loona or other I.M.P. members do outside work, or shown Octavia spending the weekend with Stella/Andrealphus, or really shown Stella being anything other that a cartoon villain screaming HILARIOUS.

But the tiny jester imp being in a gay relation with a deadly sin was a story Viv really needed to tell, apparently.
 
Something something bad to be a woman in Vivzie's works

But yeah, Fizz gets a ridiculous amount of focus for how unimportant he is. They could have spent an episode showing what Loona or other I.M.P. members do outside work, or shown Octavia spending the weekend with Stella/Andrealphus, or really shown Stella being anything other that a cartoon villain screaming HILARIOUS.

But the tiny jester imp being in a gay relation with a deadly sin was a story Viv really needed to tell, apparently.
Yeah Fizz's stuff should of been in shorts. But his episode should have been dedicated to Millie or Loona who are below bare bones.
 
I don't know why Fizz even cared if he was not longer Mammon's top crashcow, it would be understandable is he was his only source of income but he also is in a relationship with Asmodeus so it's not like he was gonna end up sleeping on the street. Which takes me to my second point:
But the tiny jester imp being in a gay relation with a deadly sin was a story Viv really needed to tell, apparently.
Relation that never has any kind of consequences, because for some reason being in a romantic relationship with a imp now it's not a big deal, well unless you are Stolas, otherwise how are we gonna get our angst?
 
But yeah, Fizz gets a ridiculous amount of focus for how unimportant he is. They could have spent an episode showing what Loona or other I.M.P. members do outside work, or shown Octavia spending the weekend with Stella/Andrealphus, or really shown Stella being anything other that a cartoon villain screaming HILARIOUS.

But the tiny jester imp being in a gay relation with a deadly sin was a story Viv really needed to tell, apparently.
Yeah Fizz's stuff should of been in shorts. But his episode should have been dedicated to Millie or Loona who are below bare bones.
It's funny how a lot of people's favorite episode of season 2, even the ones who think season 2 is shit, is the Fizz episode with Mammon. Basically it's the episode that could have been it's own stand alone story with no focus on the main characters or the premise of the show. It's an episode that you can entirely skip and literally the season would have not been affected in anyway because of it.
I don't know why Fizz even cared if he was not longer Mammon's top crashcow, it would be understandable is he was his only source of income but he also is in a relationship with Asmodeus so it's not like he was gonna end up sleeping on the street. Which takes me to my second point:

Relation that never has any kind of consequences, because for some reason being in a romantic relationship with a imp now it's not a big deal, well unless you are Stolas, otherwise how are we gonna get our angst?
Because big reveals and uprising conflicts for this show are conveniently forgotten in favor of Stolitz drama; until that said conflict can be related to said ship. Example: Blitzø's sister is never brought up again after her initial debut until the last episode of the season and only because it was related to Stolas' current situation with his daughter for some reason.

At this point, can they just call it the StolASS show? This is all that Helluva Boss is now about.
 
Speaking of best girls, apart from being rude to the protagonist Glitz and Glam did literally nothing wrong, despite being "villains". And, let's be honest, they were better showmen than that faggot jester.
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Knowing Viv Glitz and Glam will be confirmed gay, trans, or all of the above any day now. Repeat after me everyone. "There are no straight people in Viv's work." Any character who claims to be straight will be retconed gay soon enough by Viv.
 
Knowing Viv Glitz and Glam will be confirmed gay, trans, or all of the above any day now. Repeat after me everyone. "There are no straight people in Viv's work." Any character who claims to be straight will be retconed gay soon enough by Viv.
Didn't she allude to them being incestuous? Odd as in the show they were never shown as such or even hinting at it. They just come off as cheap imitations of two other sister demons I know that are way better..

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There has been no merch drop for the newest Helluva Boss short. Which I find a bit odd because for all the other shorts there would have been one right the day after a new short came out. The short has only gotten 3.3 million views as of now, so maybe they figured it wouldn't be worth the cost to produce stuff for it. Instead they released some more pride shit, which is also weird because I doubt even the people who would normally consume said product would want any more of the same-old from last month.
 
They just come off as cheap imitations of two other sister demons I know that are way better..
To be fair HB in itself, S1+the shorts specifically, almost had/have that Lupin the 3rd vibe going for it. Unsurprisingly, those make up much of my favorite moments.
 
Something something bad to be a woman in Vivzie's works

But yeah, Fizz gets a ridiculous amount of focus for how unimportant he is. They could have spent an episode showing what Loona or other I.M.P. members do outside work, or shown Octavia spending the weekend with Stella/Andrealphus, or really shown Stella being anything other that a cartoon villain screaming HILARIOUS.

But the tiny jester imp being in a gay relation with a deadly sin was a story Viv really needed to tell, apparently.
Funny thing is, I decided out of boredom to go to subreddit for Helluva Boss(I know I know, not the smartest decision), and the reply to this exact criticism was the classic "HURR HURR DON'T WATCH LEMAO)))"

Motherfucker, we don't have a basic story on what happened to Loona's parents yet you HAD to make half a season about that gay ass couple for a horrible hypocrite (judging by Sinsmas and latest short), and a deadbeat of a father, who disregards his daughter wherever it ACTUALLY matters, instead of when it's convenient to him??

We're still talking about THE GROUP, the IMP. It's not "Blitz and Stolas" show.
 
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