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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Nifty was more of a joke on my end, since even though she's part of the main cast she's definitely not a main character. And Velvette is in her 30s. She's the youngest overlord because she died later than the other overlords.
Wait hold on, she's 30? I always assumed that at best she was in her early 20s but it's hard to really tell because nobody ever acts accordingly to their age or era they lived in, opting instead to behave like teenagers.

like again why not make merch of them being other things.
You make a good point, they have the capacity to use the merch as a way to expand more on the characters and the world but for what I have seen is always the same type of pins/playmats/standees/logos/trading cards/etc. with the character just doing a cool pose or dressed up for the occasion or the worst offender of all Stoliz crap.

Goddammit Viv, since you have pretty much given up on continuing with the original plot the least you could do would be to get some fan artist to produce comics of the trio on a mission from time to time.
 
But they don't EVERYONE gets sexualized (besides Octavia but they barely make merch of her because she hates her and she can't market her enough) like again why not make merch of them being other things.

I'm 99.9% confident that Octavia's 18th birthday will be an episode (Stolas will not be invited and he'll cry yadayada) and if Vivzie starts selling sexy merch of Via it will be a new low for her.

or fuck WHERES THE GUYS MOM some nameless/faceless/nobody Stolas can't even be bothered to talk about.

Vivzie hates woman so Stolas mother never had a chance. I expect her to be dead like blitzo's and moxie's mom, solely to give Stolas more random angst.

Vivzie does not give a fuck about her characters doing shit in character and simply wants the goon money. Alastor is asexual yet he still gets the sexy merch because he's too popular to not get one.

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I'm also 90% sure this is not-so-subtle RadioAple shipper fuel because every other hazbin keychain this year was a canon couple but not these two (why not Lucifer+Llilith?) and their poses intentionally match.
 
I'm 99.9% confident that Octavia's 18th birthday will be an episode (Stolas will not be invited and he'll cry yadayada) and if Vivzie starts selling sexy merch of Via it will be a new low for her.



Vivzie hates woman so Stolas mother never had a chance. I expect her to be dead like blitzo's and moxie's mom, solely to give Stolas more random angst.

Vivzie does not give a fuck about her characters doing shit in character and simply wants the goon money. Alastor is asexual yet he still gets the sexy merch because he's too popular to not get one.

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I'm also 90% sure this is not-so-subtle RadioAple shipper fuel because every other hazbin keychain this year was a canon couple but not these two (why not Lucifer+Llilith?) and their poses intentionally match.
"Because shes the big bad and isn't revealed yet shhh.. ignore the leaks just coomsume my merch bigot."
 
Stella, karen, lute, katie killjoy. They were meant to be strawmen and it backfired on her harder than springtime for Hitler.

I honestly knew Katie had a point when she said Charlie has no knowledge of how someone can be redeemed. I'd prefer that she went to ask heaven first because she has permission, being the Devil's naive, innocent daughter who has only harmed bad people as of now then she gets criteria that the rehabilitated sinners would need to show the Seven Heavenly Virtues to enter and sustain those. I'm so glad they started with Sir Pentious because he was just a tryhard and was the easiest to redeem. I just don't like how they killed him off. A fan comic by Jigokuhana that was dubbed by ParanoidDJ explores the concept of showing the sinners' human designs. A commenter on the video said that maybe if a sinner is genuinely redeeming himself and is gradually getting ready to go to heaven as a changed person, his human form slowly shows itself in brief flashes. I honestly loved that comic. It was so tender, sweet, and soft in its own way.



For my concept. All sinners are in the form of animals and monsters because sin has been described as a lurking, hunting beast in the Bible (story of Cain and Abel in Genesis when Cain was warned by God because he was angry at his brother). Everyone in heaven is in a human form (Man is made in the image of God). Throughout the ages, NO ONE has ever showed a glimpse of his human form in hell because they were always in an environment where they'd have to be animals, terrible people. Charlie has made an environment where they can be good and go to heaven in the form of a human spirit. Simple!


How can that apply to Pentious? Since he's a pussy tryhard, he ends up acting villainous, right? Turns out, he's actually just a doofus among the sinners, so he's easiest to redeem. As Pentious shows change, he starts to show his human form and starts a cute relationship with Cherri. Part of being a tryhard is being scared of a real challenge with real risks. So, he finally grows some balls by being empowered by warm feelings for his happy place which is the Hotel, actually puts up a fight that is shown on screen during the extermination, and eventually dies IN THE AFRERMATH, but is finally redeemed with a human form which the main cast and ALL THE OTHER SINNERS SEE as he ascends to the light. People are inspired and now willing to go to the Hotel to give it a try. This is where Angel's arc enters - VALENTINO COMES LATER.


How can Angel help with more clients because we're trying to insert as many characters as possible within the time crunch? He starts talking to them, interacting, healing through the process, socializing, and even cooks for them (he's a good cook, remember?) In some rehabs and prisons, to set people straight, they assign tasks such as "ok you clean the session area and you over there go cook or buy food blah blah." Remember Grodon Ramsay teaching convicts (hopefully those with relatively minor crimes and willing to change) to cook and bake so they get a job? Some people have found professions and businesses through that. Angel could change through that.
 
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Wait hold on, she's 30? I always assumed that at best she was in her early 20s but it's hard to really tell because nobody ever acts accordingly to their age or era they lived in, opting instead to behave like teenagers.
I guess they never did make mention of her actual name. I just thought she was in her thirties due to her voice. And I'm looking up her VA and they're 34, so no wonder I saw that.

But yeah, I agree that almost everyone acts like recently turned adults. The only one I'd argue that acts his age is Husk. I expect if Crymini (a character that is actually 18) ever ends up in the show, she'll act as immature as everyone else. But at least she'll make sense.
 
Am I the only one who just cannot stand the art style of these shows? I tried to get into them but just couldn't - for multiple reasons. But the art style and how utterly busy it was really detracted.
 
Those coomer merch (who are very bland and sexless) makes me wonder if Viv is still a virgin, because her vision of sex is really... Immature, she doesn't know what makes a character sexy or sexually appealing.
I would have assumes this is as sexy as those guys can get to be able to successfully market their merch. Perhaps a furry or someone who gets easily aroused by cartoon characters would find a red-skinned Invader Zim-looking creature hot enough if you wrap it in ribbons or apply some shading on its body to accentuate its humanoid anatomy.

Speaking of which, does anyone know anything about the guidelines and limitations of selling explicit merch online?
 
I guess they never did make mention of her actual name. I just thought she was in her thirties due to her voice. And I'm looking up her VA and they're 34, so no wonder I saw that.

But yeah, I agree that almost everyone acts like recently turned adults. The only one I'd argue that acts his age is Husk. I expect if Crymini (a character that is actually 18) ever ends up in the show, she'll act as immature as everyone else. But at least she'll make sense.
Considering almost every character in either of her shows acts like they just graduated high school and are in an endless summer before college/adukting kicks in. This franchise is by all accounts vivian and co's means of vicariously living the idealic life they wanted but never got, for damn good reasons I may add.

Really you could say that about a lot of western animation made in the last few years. (Owl House, Craig of the creek, dead end paranormal park, she ra.)
 
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>the CREATOR of the show
>couldn't get a keychain made of the literal poster child of the show

 
Considering almost every character in either of her shows acts like they just graduated high school and are in an endless summer before college/adukting kicks in. This franchise is by all accounts vivian and co's means of vicariously living the idealic life they wanted but never got, for damn good reasons I may add.

Really you could say that about a lot of western animation made in the last few years. (Owl House, Craig of the creek, dead end paranormal park, she ra.)
I’m now remembering how the creators of She-Ra and Owl House specifically included prom episodes because they didn’t get to live out their “queer prom” dreams in real life. So you really aren’t far off at all.
 
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>the CREATOR of the show
>couldn't get a keychain made of the literal poster child of the show

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This...this is why both this site and even her former "fans" are calling her an overgrown spoiled brat. She basically pulled a vercua salt and said. "But I want my angel dust keychain and i want it now!" Only for daddy amazon or spindlehorse, or sharkrobot or whoever she answers too to say"no." And when someone calls her out on it she's like we'll it's just a Keychain calm down. Trying to play spin doctor and flip the blame onto someone else.

Vivian "never MY fault" maduro.
 
My prior comment was promptly misunderstood because at the time I was half asleep but what I was trying to say is. In the show if Viv were to add RL killers how would Elliot Rodger and by extension other killers react to the characters. Or even redemption.

I clarified this is because Rodger did have fascination with blondes (Charlie is one) and I was wondering a what if. But it turned into a misunderstanding. That goes for other spergs like Randy Stair and even Eric Harris. Would redemption work for Elliot or Eric? That's what I was asking.
 
Checks out. He'd be the first to go in the Exterminations.
If those exterminations were true to what seraph had in mind when she made them, randy wouldn't be worth the effort in exterminating. The exterminations were intended to purge hell of its worst of the worst from Atilla the hun to Mao. Not whinny little youtube spergs with a dozen recolored ocs for waifus.
 
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