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At this point and place, would I be that surprised if the hh writing team will make it possible for them to get together? :lossmanjack: Despite Al being an extension of "asexual Viv" in her own mind, of course, "Life s gonna throw you a curveball and kick you in the nuts whether you like it or not"

Jokes aside, I ve given up on this show already by some time and Im very thankful to see that all my biases and criticisms do find fertile ground in the leaks and trailers. So, for the ones that will watch the show and report back to the farms, thank you. I appreciate your work and contribution. :heart-full:
 
At this point and place, would I be that surprised if the hh writing team will make it possible for them to get together? :lossmanjack: Despite Al being an extension of "asexual Viv" in her own mind, of course, "Life s gonna throw you a curveball and kick you in the nuts whether you like it or not"

Jokes aside, I ve given up on this show already by some time and Im very thankful to see that all my biases and criticisms do find fertile ground in the leaks and trailers. So, for the ones that will watch the show and report back to the farms, thank you. I appreciate your work and contribution. :heart-full:
If we really need to sperg over these fucking characters, can't we just do what 4chan did with goodbye volcano high and write a better story featuring the same characters (except stolas because fuck him)?
 
If we really need to sperg over these fucking characters, can't we just do what 4chan did with goodbye volcano high and write a better story featuring the same characters (except stolas because fuck him)?
sure man let us know when you post your fanfic
 
If we really need to sperg over these fucking characters, can't we just do what 4chan did with goodbye volcano high and write a better story featuring the same characters (except stolas because fuck him)?
You mean related to the entire hellaverse? I ve seen some farmers mentioning this idea in the past in this same thread. Somebody was also posting a couple chapters of a fanfic in here.
I am genuinely interested about it, is there anybody that started already working on such a project tho?
 
And the other is of a retarded girl.
(That one is a straight pairing a woman and a guy so thats not actually gay. One is a cat girl the other is an incubus.)

Incorrect. Mackenzie, the character you're thinking of, was originally Afkinz, a male. Viv bought him (along with a few others) from another online artist named Dollcreep.
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After Vivienne bought him, she....trooned him out, for lack of a better term. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on, it was probably to deflect from the criticism of the overexposure to fujo bullshit. "SEE I CAN DO STRAIGHT PAIRINGS TOO!"
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Incorrect. Mackenzie, the character you're thinking of, was originally Afkinz, a male. Viv bought him (along with a few others) from another online artist named Dollcreep.
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After Vivienne bought him, she....trooned him out, for lack of a better term. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on, it was probably to deflect from the criticism of the overexposure to fujo bullshit. "SEE I CAN DO STRAIGHT PAIRINGS TOO!"
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She has also allegedly the tendency of buying off characters from other artists as well in hh, isn't she. I remember the situation regarding sir pentious and cherry bomb as well.
 
She has also allegedly the tendency of buying off characters from other artists as well in hh, isn't she. I remember the situation regarding sir pentious and cherry bomb as well.
Pentious was actually based of her friend or ex whom had a thing steampunk styled clothes and had long hair, both things Viv would always make fun and mock 'em for it. Until the friend eventually left, which seems to have made extra salty if we go by that sexual assault scene on Pentious.
 
Wait did this actually happen
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Bruh what are you doing Viv
Yes, that was one of the final scenes in HB's S2 finale. Bonus: Millie calls her MTF tranny "sister" for advice on being pregnant. You know, her sibling that has a penis and not a womb and doesn't know a fucking thing about being pregnant.
The whole "Millie being pregnant" is probably the most unintentionally funniest thing that has happened in Helluva Boss. First, you have her being the only one who wants to kill the dad in Sinsmas and not understanding why everyone is all of a sudden so vehemently against this. She brings up the fact that "didn't this guy cheat", and that they have done this same thing before, and there shouldn't be a problem with it now. She then calls Moxxie "not demon enough", though immediately apologizes.

Turns out, the only reason she was acting like this because "you know how women get when they're preggers lol".

Then this line of the song playing in the background comes on when she took her pregnancy, and it's just so fucking hilarious for all the wrong reason and I really don't think it was supposed to mean like that. Just bad timing for that line to play at this exact moment.
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Then, instead of going to her husband to talk to him about this, she calls her sister, breaking down and saying she doesn't know what to do.
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And then afterwards, when she does go to Moxxie, she still doesn't tell him that she's pregnant and instead just reassures him that she loves him, with a strange expression on her face.
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So of course, a lot of people are theorizing that A) Millie cheated on Moxxie, and/or B) Millie is going to abort her pregnancy without letting Moxxie know.

And while I don't think Millie cheated on Moxxie because this relationship being so "wholesome and healthy" is Viv's bread and butter...you can't blame people for coming to this conclusion. The whole theme of this episode and the very much so unintentional foreshadowing and symbolism involving Millie throughout Sinsmas points that this is what the direction is going.

But I feel like if anything this proves how poor of storyteller Viv really is. She didn't make even a red herring. I think Millie is so much on the bottom of Viv's priorities in Helluva Boss that she herself doesn't realize what she has written for this character. And is probably very confused on why people are thinking this way
 
Then this line of the song playing in the background comes on when she took her pregnancy, and it's just so fucking hilarious for all the wrong reason and I really don't think it was supposed to mean like that. Just bad timing for that line to play at this exact moment.
I just wanted to point out my particularly favorite part of this moment:

She's in Blitzo's bathroom. Who the fuck takes a piss stick pregnancy test during a Christmas party at a friend's house? She didn't just wait until she got home, she for whatever reason carried a pregnancy test around with her, got to Blitzo's place, and decided yeah now's the time.

And then she buries the packaging in the trash, which is likely going to be emptied by Blitzo at some point. And what do you think a single (well, "single") father with a 22 year old daughter is going to think when he finds a pregnancy test in the trash?

Anyway, they are clearly setting up something dumb because Millie's reaction, like you said, just doesn't make sense unless something more than "Moxxie knocked me up" is going on.
 
sure man let us know when you post your fanfic
Well, we could start by placing basic and better rules on the world that viv clearly didn't.
For instance, let's say that every character in hell used to be a human once with few extremely rare exceptions, almost nobody is really born there, families are formed by people uniting together for one reason or another or perhaps is former family members re-uniting in death.

Population could be split between repented souls seeing living in hell as a miserable existence and those who further gives in to sinning even after passing because they have no regret and simply continue to enjoy the decadent enviroment they are condemmned to live in, a basic economy system could play a part here and be just an illusion built to fuel the already corrupted system, being there only to further degenerate people, so that those demons that revel in sinning grow to become even more depraved and the repenting ones are trapped in a cycle of endless misery.

When a demon dies a second time, his soul pops out and without a body anymore it's compressed by gravity into a solid object. This could be collected used as a source of energy and makes for the real currency used and traded by elites that made out with hell and lesser souls the equivalent of pinocchio's pleasure island: sin could be measurable and the more tainted a soul has become, the more valuable easiest to find it ultimately is. From gay bars to casinos, all in function of feeding desire and pleasure for the fools that are going to be slaugthered like cattles the moment they look away, while the penitent ones are hired to clean and repair and cook and prostitute themselves for what's basically spare cash, in order to avoid being the next on the line.

Penance also takes a role here and it's a demon has to do in order to cleanse their soul from accumulated sin but never allows for true salvation; its basically the act of doing something that causes most personal suffering, either mental or phisical. For example: if a troon killed himself because he realized that being a troon ruined his life, his penance would revolve around still having to take those pills, even if he causes him mental/phisical pain, meanwhile if a troon that was killed by cops for raping a children takes the same pills because he identifies as a woman, it has the opposite effect and ends up accumilating sin. This is the reason penitent demons works like servants for the elites, the less sin a demon has accumulated, the less is worth killing.

In this way, a demon has to choose between either suffer for eternity or eventually give in desire to enjoy hell, and it has to either be strong/rich enough to survive the surrounding dangers or live with the paranoia that at any point he could be killed and have his soul taken and used by the killer. This system is absolutely terrible on purpose, as it ensures corruption and the impossibility of people to raise from the bottom and become someone, there is technically a chance, but it's concretely impossible.


Now, for the characters, it would be nice if everyone but Blitzo remembers their past life and is miserable/broken in their own way because of it:
- Millie could have been gaslighting for her whole life about her condition, trying to live and smile and trying pretend a better day is just behind the corner but could really be just a thin facade that hide an insecure and depressed person.

- Moxxie could have had multiple restrains and values in his previous life that were all worthless in the end as he became a demon like the rest, instead of falling to nihilism, he discovered a new meaning in the form of his wife/girlfirend, with both him reassuring her whenever she has a breakdown or her making him remember why is it still worth living and that there are reasons to smile even and especially in the most dire of situation.

- For Loona, there is an italian legend about a man that gave his Dog's soul to the Devil called "the devil's bridge", Loona could follow one of such cases, being resentful, violent and untrustworthy; she wasn't really allowed to choose and never did anything wrong herself, rather she was abandoned by her owner and thrown to eternal misery.

- Blitzo, finally, instead of being part of the pleb like the rest, could be failed nobility that has ended up lost everything after a set of terrible ideas and, with the last resources in possession, built the assassination company with the only people that didn't left him: one of his bodyguard (either Millie or Moxxie), their partner and his pet dog (Loona). He has completely forgot his past as human after years of decadence, and ever since he realized that he was in the path of losing all, has been undergoing an unspeakable form of penance for hours at day to avoid being found and killed the moment he would truly fall from grace, which people think to be the cause of his current insanity (when in reality he was always like that to begin with). More than everything, behind the made-up persona he plays in front of everyone, there's a pathetic wretch that is far more scared of dying than everyone else.


The living world should be an enviroment that is harsh to demons, perhaps having sin as a whole play a part, but with limits, so that even a cleansed demon isn't really capable of living much longer outside:

Effects could begin with headache and degenerate into extreme photosensitivity to sunlight, leading to even mental and psychical deterioration if further prolonged to the outside world, this could be lesser in polluted enviroments or places where human commits sin and debauchery often (with los angeles being the place a demon can stay the longest for obvious but slightly comedical reasons).

If a human summons a demon, the demon could be able to withstand the enviroment for much longer, but their will be enslaved, forcing them to serve the man that summoned them or die, this could be used for drama, like having Millie being summoned (maybe the materials for the ritual being there as result of a previous assassination).

Blitzo's assassinations contract could come at first as a way to get easy souls: he finds newcomers, oblivious to how things works in hell, convince them to give away their souls in exchange for revenge (causing them to rank up sin as its a planned assassination), and profit later. Later he could find himself forced to fulfill a specific list of contracts for an actually dangerous demon to fullfill his own goals under the threat of losing his employers, people he believes that secretly/openly hates him and are there just because they have nowhere else to go.
It's not the best thing, but it gives you an idea of what, at least for me, Viv could have done if she wasn't a fucking hoe with an unhealthy obssession with Grimm from Hollow Knight and crippling addition to gay furry porn.
 
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I just wanted to point out my particularly favorite part of this moment:

She's in Blitzo's bathroom. Who the fuck takes a piss stick pregnancy test during a Christmas party at a friend's house? She didn't just wait until she got home, she for whatever reason carried a pregnancy test around with her, got to Blitzo's place, and decided yeah now's the time.

And then she buries the packaging in the trash, which is likely going to be emptied by Blitzo at some point. And what do you think a single (well, "single") father with a 22 year old daughter is going to think when he finds a pregnancy test in the trash?

Anyway, they are clearly setting up something dumb because Millie's reaction, like you said, just doesn't make sense unless something more than "Moxxie knocked me up" is going on.
Like the Just Stop video that was posted here recently: everything is pretty much done by impulse and nothing for this story is planned beforehand. And no one working on this show pauses and thinks "hmm, actually this probably won't work here". But it's not like the audience for this show really cares either. All that matters is immediate satisfaction at that very moment.
 
Wtf am I even looking at here. I can barely read the title


I hope we get to see Michael completely demolish his ass, but I doubt this show would ever be that cool.
You're in for a treat, a lot of characters from Zoophobia were brought in for Hazbin. Here's proto-Angel Dust and Alastor:

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Charlie and Vaggie clip that has to throw in her calling Charlie "babe" to remind people they're supposed to have any kind of romantic chemistry.
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Charlie and Vaggie clip that has to throw in her calling Charlie "babe" to remind people they're supposed to have any kind of romantic chemistry.
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Can't wait to see the only things Vaggie to do in this season is be a supportive girlfriend, learn not to be jealous of Emily spending time with her girlfriend, and figuring out what her new name should be only to accept her old name in the ends and making all that completely pointless.
 
figuring out what her new name should be only to accept her old name in the ends and making all that completely pointless.
They'll just make it "Vagatha" in honor of Pentious, then shorten it to "Vaggie" anyway.
On that note, "religious trauma" has to be up there with "media literacy" in terms of elitist hipster slang that just makes me roll my eyes.
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