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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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The tired cat said:
So, recently Viv had an intereview and here is what she said. She made the absolute worst strawman argument possible and then defended her shit writing by claiming it was a story arc and WE are the philistines who wants episodic shit like Scooby Doo instead of her mistery inc. velma.
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I never wanted an episodic show, I wanted a good story arc, perhaps one that had to do with the show's concept:
Focus on a specific kill and/or make most of the others connected.
 
Strangolapreti said:
I never wanted an episodic show, I wanted a good story arc, perhaps one that had to do with the show's concept:
Focus on a specific kill and/or make most of the others connected.
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Hell, she could have still made it! I remember the pilot pitch had Blitzo still caught up on the one that got away. With no mention of Stolas.
 
Hey! I was wondering if there's any screenshot archives of this account that claims Viv facilitated internet harassment with the crew of Shay? My friend had told me she put the link into Internet Archive but it returned as the oldest being the account was suspended. Archive.is has no examples of this actually being archived and screenshots found when searching are commentary on Shay.


I was wondering if, by chance any kiwis had archived from Aethy, even though I never heard of this before.
 
FK009 said:
My immediate question then is, why did she pitch it like that was what it was? This honestly feels like she lied to everyone, because she knew if not for the pilot and comedy aspect, it would have flopped.
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Because Viv initially was going to keep it as an office comedy, but somewhere along during the Murder Family production she saw some fanart of Blitzø and Stolas as kids hanging out. Because Viv is a fujo at heart, she asked Brandon if they could change the focus of the show, and explore Stolas and Blitzø relationship seriously instead of it being a gag. And Brandon said yes.

But Viv getting bored with her initial idea she presented and changing the course of the story is something she always has done. Look at Zoophobia. Hazbin also had done the same thing. She blames a lot of this on her adhd, and slight powerlevel, but as someone who has lived with someone who also has adhd, I can believe her with that.
The tired cat said:
The shorts are the episodic stuff, which she likes taking part in, but she never makes 'em. An how if people still think the show is supposed to be how it was shown in the pilot, then you may as well watch the shorts.
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It's funny because when the shorts were first announced, many people thought it would be on places and characters that wouldn't get a lot of focus on in the main show. And that was what happened with the first short. But after that, all just hits.

Even more funny, that the hits don't even focus much on Millie or Loona. It's Moxxie and Blitzø. So again, still has the same issues as the main show.
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
Hey! I was wondering if there's any screenshot archives of this account that claims Viv facilitated internet harassment with the crew of Shay? My friend had told me she put the link into Internet Archive but it returned as the oldest being the account was suspended. Archive.is has no examples of this actually being archived and screenshots found when searching are commentary on Shay.


I was wondering if, by chance any kiwis had archived from Aethy, even though I never heard of this before.
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Oh boy, Aethy, an instance of Mastodon. You can read more here:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-pediverse-radqueers-paraphila-movement.194261/
 
InJailOutSoon said:
It's funny because when the shorts were first announced, many people thought it would be on places and characters that wouldn't get a lot of focus on in the main show. And that was what happened with the first short. But after that, all just hits.
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What's the biggest trainwreck between this and the dceu?
InJailOutSoon said:
Even more funny, that the hits don't even focus much on Millie or Loona. It's Moxxie and Blitzø. So again, still has the same issues as the main show.
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Ooh its moxxie, not moxy, and millie, not milien...

I really hope that viv genuinely believes that if she keep focusing on gay owl, gay imp and moxxie, she will eventually strikes gold and finally make for the other 2 main characters being as flat as a tire.

Actually, if she really watches this thread, I would love to see her parody every single thing I posted and said here in order to own me like the lilttle chud I am.
 
Strangolapreti said:
I never wanted an episodic show, I wanted a good story arc, perhaps one that had to do with the show's concept:
Focus on a specific kill and/or make most of the others connected.
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Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Hell, she could have still made it! I remember the pilot pitch had Blitzo still caught up on the one that got away. With no mention of Stolas.
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A number of us have shared different scenarios that would have made the show's original premise "not boring." If Viv didn't have a huge ego and surrounded herself with people who could have reined in her yaoi fetish, she would not be getting as much criticism as she now.

 
FK009 said:
This is exactly what happened. and it’s as stupid as it sounds. I still do not know, to this day, why the fuck anyone gives a shit about Michelle’s tranny brother. It feels so forced. Like I get it, it’s Morgana’s self insert, but still. You’d think it be mocked.
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Is Morgana still voicing Mimi's brother? If not, it'd be funny if - purely out of spite - Viv reconnected the character into a true and honest woman.
 
The Nothingness said:
A number of us have shared different scenarios that would have made the show's original premise "not boring." If Viv didn't have a huge ego and surrounded herself with people who could have reined in her yaoi fetish, she would not be getting as much criticism as she now.
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It's pretty funny how everyone is able to write a better cartoon than viv, we should make it a contest at this point.
 
The tired cat said:
How S1 had a plot, just was thin on it unlike S2. The shorts are the episodic stuff, which she likes taking part in, but she never makes 'em.
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And yet the shorts are the only things that are even tolerable to watch.
InJailOutSoon said:
She blames a lot of this on her adhd, and slight powerlevel, but as someone who has lived with someone who also has adhd, I can believe her with that.
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As someone with massive ADHD it is something you struggle with, not something you embrace.
 
The Nothingness said:
A number of us have shared different scenarios that would have made the show's original premise "not boring." If Viv didn't have a huge ego and surrounded herself with people who could have reined in her yaoi fetish, she would not be getting as much criticism as she now.
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Anyone who says that the original premise would have gotten boring are idiots. Some of the greatest written shows are formulaic as hell. And the reason why they were good was because the people behind them were creative enough and good writers.

And that's the real reason that no critic wants to point out; Viv and the others are just terrible writers. The best one that they had (Brandon) didn't write any of the scripts after season 1 except for like one episode in season 2. He was the main writer for the original pilot. If he was still the main writer (and probably didn't say yes to Viv asking if he wanted to explore the Slolitz shit seriously) we probably would have gotten the show that was originally advertised to us. And yeah, it probably wouldn't be groundbreaking or anything; but I think more people would have had fun with it instead of what it was like now.

But I guess the writers aren't fully to blame for this. I'm sure everyone can remember a couple of stinkers in their favorite show. The main difference is that the show probably had like 52 episodes. If a couple of episodes suck in a show nowadays...that's basically a quarter of the show is shit.
 
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This thread is one of the most active in multi-media for a series that is currently between-seasons

Is there just a lot of fucking autists obsessed with this mid show on KF or is there tons of new milk on it I haven’t bothered to check for?
 
Sasmate said:
This thread is one of the most active in multi-media for a series that is currently between-seasons

Is there just a lot of fucking autists obsessed with this mid show on KF or is there tons of new milk on it I haven’t bothered to check for?
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all of the above?

the weird love-hate relationship with the show most people have keeps the convo going. and then theres me posting my edits and such. theory posting. lore breakdowns. idk the show just breeds endless discussion.
 
The Saltening said:
all of the above?

the weird love-hate relationship with the show most people have keeps the convo going. and then theres me posting my edits and such. theory posting. lore breakdowns. idk the show just breeds endless discussion.
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I’ve seen the show up to this point but there isn’t much to theorize on given the predictability of fat liberal woman writing styles. So I guess that is lost on me. I’d assume there’s some milk leaking through the pages because of that fact tho so I’ll give you that
 
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