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Harris' conservative culture play​

From camo hats to libertarian rhetoric, the Kamala Harris campaign is staking its claim to symbols of conservative identity.

Why it matters: The appeals aim to convey that Democrats are not trying to undo a conservative way of life, and that red and blue Americas are not immutably divided by culture.

Driving the news: At this month's debate, Harris surprised many by saying that she is a gun owner, and in an interview with Oprahthis week said, "If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot."

• Even as she advocates for gun control measures, she used the comments to signal not only that she didn't support confiscating guns, but that she has a personal stake in the Second Amendment.

Zoom out: The comments follow a pattern of Harris and Walz claiming rhetorical turf that has long been held by Republicans.

• Harris' campaign launch video was centered around "freedom," a pervasive conservative rallying cry for resisting liberal policies on taxation, gun control and government regulation.
• Harris and Walz are using it to advocate for abortion rights and fight interventionist policies like school book bans and curriculum directives.
• Tim Walz's biography — his rural Nebraska upbringing, football coaching experience and everyday dad persona — serve to build up the ticket's Middle America credentials. And his "mind your own damn business" refrain taps into a libertarian sensibility.

These embraces have caught on as Democratic rallying cries this campaign.

• The camouflage Harris-Walz campaign hat instantaneously sold out.
• "Patriotism" was a common refrain at the DNC in August, and "USA" chants rang out from the audience throughout the week.

Between the lines: The Harris campaign is hoping that by showing welcoming arms for conservative identity, right-leaning voters will loosen steadfast liberals-are-from-Mars beliefs and evaluate the candidates based on policies that affect them, like reproductive rights and economic assistance programs.

What to watch: Harris is trying to steer Democrats' fortunes amid a political realignment that has seen the party losing favor with working class communities of color and gaining ground among wealthier suburbanites.

 

[Magicicada_septendecula]

Empty words and meaningless platitudes. Anyone who falls for it is retarded.

Sadly, many people will, and they think they're smarter than you for it.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

no one believes this shit. Not even Democrats.

You haven't been to Spacebattles, where they do believe this kind of shit

 

[cybertoaster]

Doubt it. This is a great job trying to be the "moderate" while Trump is the "radical."

Except nothing the dems have done in the past 4 years its remotely moderate, they went full-woke thinking that would somehow undo what little tangerine tyrant did, when he got elected over shit that was less woke than this.

 

[CircuSphere]

Why do they act like we haven't seen what happens when you give Dems a shred of power? Normies are so stupid and the press is so evil, I hate everything.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

"How do you do, fellow Conservatives, I'm Ol' Oakland Kam!"

Anyone who is dumb enough to fall for this and not realize it's a bait and switch where she'll go back to open borders, gun grabs, DEI, and troons everywhere is dumb as...well, Kamala.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Except nothing the dems have done in the past 4 years its remotely moderate, they went full-woke thinking that would somehow undo what little tangerine tyrant did, when he got elected over shit that was less woke than this.

Too bad the normies and NPCs don't know that. The average voter is braindead, and that will be LITERALLY braindead for the hundreds of thousands of dead people who will be voting Democrat in November. The Overton window is horrifyingly manipulated in this country, and they've frog-boiled their way into convincing people that Joe Biden is a moderate since he didn't do progressive things like reparations, forgiving ALL student loans, and open borders. Remember, they call Republicans lawless bigots for voting against the Democrat proposal that only lets us close the border on a given day after 15,000 illegals have entered. That's "common sense moderate immigration policy" to normies, just like California's gun laws are "moderate gun policy."

 

[Don Herbert]

Too bad the normies and NPCs don't know that. The average voter is braindead, and that will be LITERALLY braindead for the hundreds of thousands of dead people who will be voting Democrat in November. The Overton window is horrifyingly manipulated in this country, and they've frog-boiled their way into convincing people that Joe Biden is a moderate since he didn't do progressive things like reparations, forgiving ALL student loans, and open borders. Remember, they call Republicans lawless bigots for voting against the Democrat proposal that only lets us close the border on a given day after 15,000 illegals have entered. That's "common sense moderate immigration policy" to normies, just like California's gun laws are "moderate gun policy."

>joe biden didn't do open borders

 

[thog]

And his "mind your own damn business" refrain taps into a libertarian sensibility.

Minding your own business in the Libertarian context doesn't mean accepting degeneracy. It simply means respecting the property rights of others. If he really wanted people to mind their own business, he would support the repeal of the Civil Rights Act, which was the final nail in the coffin for freedom of association in this country.

Also, once again, we aren't conservatives in the modern sense, so I don't get why we're being lumped in with them. Is it because they're both right-wing ideologies?

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

Also, once again, we aren't conservatives in the modern sense, so I don't get why we're being lumped in with them.

It's because they genuinely don't care about any of the nuances: more right == enemy

 

[Don Herbert]

freedom of association

this is the only issue, along with immigration/deportation, that could possibly make me pay attention to a politician even pretending to be willing to address it

 

[rotten apple]

Conservatism is not even a dead horse getting beat anymore. It is a relay race of those who are next beating to death those who came before, stealing the name, and continuing on foot. None of them can even conserve their own identity. The only word less meaningful is bipartisanship. I would not trust anyone invoking the word, much less trying to tell others what it "truly" means.

 

[Apteryx Retardi]

I don’t think there really is a coherent strategy or consistent message for the Harris campaign but I could be wrong. It’s basically just random words they try to give magic meaning to like “joy” but they backfire like how “Weird” did.

If you were to ask me about her platform I wouldn’t know how to reply

It's pretty clear the Dems were planning to skate by on incumbent advantage and orangemanbad, until Biden's brain started liquifying on live TV.

Harris doesn't have the former, and TDS is way down compared to 2020. A sizable part of TDS voters are low info, don't care too much about politics, vote Dem mainly because MSM told them to, and tend to project their wishful thinking on their candidate without ever actually checking out her policies etc.

At this point Harris CAN'T afford an actual policy, because anything concrete would piss off more of her existing voters than gain her new ones.

Edit:

You haven't been to Spacebattles, where they do believe this kind of shit

Don't have an account, are they calling her literally Hitler trump now? Because that would be funny.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

It's pretty clear the Dems were planning to skate by on incumbent advantage and orangemanbad, until Biden's brain started liquifying on live TV.

Harris doesn't have the former, and TDS is way down compared to 2020.

I think you’re right. The official TDS thread here is a lot slower than it was years ago.

Still, I wish it could go away completely

 

[Abradolfus_Linclerson]

The only "Freedom" that her base cares about is drugs and sex. I don't like drugs and nobody wants to have sex with me, so I'm probably not your target audience.

You're forgetting the freedom to abort all their babies. Or perhaps you lump that in with the 'sex' side of what they care about. Either way, all I know is abortion and "Project 2025 is scawwy!" are all they've got for ads here in Wisconsin. I presume it's basically the same story everywhere else?

Regarding their flailing attempts at totemic/memetic wordplay, contrast "Trump and Vance are weird" to this gem:

Anyone who genuinely believes any of this horseshit pandering from Kacklin' Kopmala the Kunt is the same flavor of credulous numbnutz that was taken in by Hillary's fake southern accent and hotsauce in her purse crap.

 

[BulkForceFive]

She did like putting black men in prison. While I'm not against it, I do find it odd how goldfish brain her supporters are, especially since it was on pretty weak charges and they were sent to for profit prisons.

Edit: I kind of sound like I'm that meme about people using Christianity to get you to do what they want when they hate Christianity argument, except replace it with black men

You sound more like an atheist pointing out that a particularly fire-and-brimstone GAYS BURN IN HELL preacher got caught with a rentboy on camera.

Kamala's wasting her time with this old song-and-dance, nobody is falling for it. The only believable part is that she'd shoot someone breaking into her house - she just forgot the part about where her house would be in a duty-to-retreat state and yet she wouldn't catch any charges, because she's a corrupt cop.

 

[Dangerous Dude]

This rug sure is nice, I hope nobody's going to pull it out from under me...

 

[cybertoaster]

Too bad the normies and NPCs don't know that. The average voter is braindead, and that will be LITERALLY braindead for the hundreds of thousands of dead people who will be voting Democrat in November. The Overton window is horrifyingly manipulated in this country, and they've frog-boiled their way into convincing people that Joe Biden is a moderate since he didn't do progressive things like reparations, forgiving ALL student loans, and open borders. Remember, they call Republicans lawless bigots for voting against the Democrat proposal that only lets us close the border on a given day after 15,000 illegals have entered. That's "common sense moderate immigration policy" to normies, just like California's gun laws are "moderate gun policy."

Things have changed, the wokeshit went too far and now even apolitical normies are getting fed up with it. A week ago I heard my boomer neighbor talking about stuff you couldn't mention about outside a gamergate thread 10 years ago without being branded a weirdo. It took a decade but now even normie vote blue types are noticing the rot. I feel this kamala hype is astroturfed af just like hillary was in 2016. Even here people forget what a massive turnaround that election was.

It's because they genuinely don't care about any of the nuances: more right == enemy

And they are screwing themselves with it. The moderate right its practically gone in the west and it was the left that killed it. There are so many historic precedents for this, empires destroying some neighboring country only to get obliterated by a barbarian horde that was being kept away by said country. Nature hates a vacuum and when the center and moderate right are gone the only thing left is a very violent very uncompromising right.

It happened before, and because the left refuses to not be retarded it will happen again.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

"If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot."

"I support 2nd Amendment rights for all."

These are not the same things. Kamala Harris is a massive hypocrite on many issues, gun rights being one of the most egregious examples of said hypocrisy.

"2nd Amendment rights for coastal elite me, and not for unwashed CHUD thee."

That's her actual gun rights stance.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

3,000 hats that sold out within half an hour of going on sale
Jim sells more hats than that.

Axios is lefty as fuck but this is really going above and beyond for the cause.

Are there any pictures of people wearing the hat in question?

Kamala thinks the government should be able to walk into your house at anytime to check that your guns are being stored properly. That is massive infringement.

As for Kamala's beliefs and positions she wants to make you poor, homeless, sick, and unable to defend yourself against the hordes of 3rd world savages she wants to give your future to and no amount of in kind contributions from the narrative media is going to change that fact.

 

[Duke Nukem]

You're forgetting the freedom to abort all their babies. Or perhaps you lump that in with the 'sex' side of what they care about. Either way, all I know is abortion and "Project 2025 is scawwy!" are all they've got for ads here in Wisconsin. I presume it's basically the same story everywhere else?

Regarding their flailing attempts at totemic/memetic wordplay, contrast "Trump and Vance are weird" to this gem:

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Anyone who genuinely believes any of this horseshit pandering from Kacklin' Kopmala the Kunt is the same flavor of credulous numbnutz that was taken in by Hillary's fake southern accent and hotsauce in her purse crap.

I like to attack her from the angle that she got her credentials by working for the very system that her base claims to be against, you know, like mass incarceration of minor drug offenders and stuff? And pointing out the ethnicity of many of those she put away, even for crimes they didn't actually commit, it makes their blood boil when you point this out.

It actually makes MY blood boil knowing that someone as blatantly careless and corrupt with dispensing punishment is this fucking close to the throne. It's like making Darth Vader the emperor, nothing good can possibly come of it.