Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[soy_king]

I'm not defending Greta's participation. I don't think their cause in general has been helped by foreigners with ulterior motives.

I think the question you should be asking is why the foreigners, especially an autistic girl who's apparently super serious about climate change, got involved in their movement in the first place.

 

[AnOminous]

I think the question you should be asking is why the foreigners, especially an autistic girl who's apparently super serious about climate change, got involved in their movement in the first place.

Because like Atheism+ or the Green Party, they're more just using climate change to push a general "social justice" agenda, in the modern and malignant meaning of the phrase. I don't know how that's relevant to whether the farmers trying to protect their own interests have an authentic concern in whether they live or die.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

I'm tired of people coddling Greta Thunberg. She's now an 18 year old woman that should be able to engage with adults about the issue of climate and environmental issues properly instead of finger-pointing others and having tantrums.

Women.mkv

 

[soy_king]

Because like Atheism+ or the Green Party, they're more just using climate change to push a general "social justice" agenda, in the modern and malignant meaning of the phrase. I don't know how that's relevant to whether the farmers trying to protect their own interests have an authentic concern in whether they live or die.

I've never indicated that the farmers may not have a legitimate interest in protesting, much like BLM or Antifa have. What I am saying is that I for one am somewhat suspicious of the long term consequences of something if the people supporting the action are neoliberal globalists and their puppets.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

As if this whore didn't make an effort to prove her detractors right.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2BB1KA (https://archive.ph/fb59Y)

 

[Trig.Point]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

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A shame, 'cause that's actually funny.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

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Good joke.

 

[Adjustable Autism]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

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Cancelled for one dumb joke. If that doesn't describe the Greta cult, I don't know what does.
Something similar happened in Germany, one or two years ago. There is a comedian called Dieter Nuhr. His jokes are literal mainstream boomer-humor, tame and inoffensive. He "targeted" Greta by merely saying "I wonder what Greta does when it's cold, I mean it can't be heating. My daughter isn't allowed to turn the radiator on, because she strikes on Friday. I put a hamster wheel and dynamo in her room."
People lost their collective shit. It was in the news, people petitioned [sic] for the cancellation of his show (which didn't happen) and the ever popular old white male made its rounds.
To his credit, Nuhr didn't back down. Quite the opposite. He doubled down.

 

[Adamska]

Cancelled for one dumb joke. If that doesn't describe the Greta cult, I don't know what does.
Something similar happened in Germany, one or two years ago. There is a comedian called Dieter Nuhr. His jokes are literal mainstream boomer-humor, tame and inoffensive. He "targeted" Greta by merely saying "I wonder what Greta does when it's cold, I mean it can't be heating. My daughter isn't allowed to turn the radiator on, because she strikes on Friday. I put a hamster wheel and dynamo in her room."
People lost their collective shit. It was in the news, people petitioned [sic] for the cancellation of his show (which didn't happen) and the ever popular old white male made its rounds.
To his credit, Nuhr didn't back down. Quite the opposite. He doubled down.

It does help that Nuhr's joke was more bland (though funnier IMO since comedy subjective), but I guess they're still trying to pretend she's a minor given the heat seeking screech missiles from the agprop mill that fucking writes for her.

 

[Adjustable Autism]

It does help that Nuhr's joke was more bland (though funnier IMO since comedy subjective), but I guess they're still trying to pretend she's a minor given the heat seeking screech missiles from the agprop mill that fucking writes for her.

True. That bothered me from day 1. Greta herself said something like "they think they don't have to take me seriously, because I'm a child" (or something like it. I don't remember. I know she loved to call herself a child). When she started to ditch school, she was fifteen. Fifteen is not being a fucking child. I know at least one person who had her own child at that age. And looking like a troll doll stuck in a time loop doesn't change it.
The narrative of the lone, innocent child standing up to all the evil adults and telling them what's what was pushed from the start. And it stayed the same to this day.

 

[Positron]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

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The joke is that the Climate Goblin has never shied away from single-use plastic wrappers:

 

[Antipathy]

I can never condone this manner of mouthbreathing alarmist who rejects actual solutions. It makes the job of actually fixing climate change a million times harder and I wonder who is actually convinced from a neutral or opposing position from this manner of rhetoric.

Spoiler: My Thoughts

 

[murdered meat bag]

The joke is that the Climate Goblin has never shied away from single-use plastic wrappers:

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i thought it was about the packaging dildos come in.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

To his credit, Nuhr didn't back down. Quite the opposite. He doubled down.

There some others comedians who should do the same and Nuhr should even triple down.

 

[Dark Edea]

What's our Zodiac Princess up to lately? Is the dog talking to her yet?

 

[Meriasek]

Cancelled for one dumb joke. If that doesn't describe the Greta cult, I don't know what does.
Something similar happened in Germany, one or two years ago. There is a comedian called Dieter Nuhr. His jokes are literal mainstream boomer-humor, tame and inoffensive. He "targeted" Greta by merely saying "I wonder what Greta does when it's cold, I mean it can't be heating. My daughter isn't allowed to turn the radiator on, because she strikes on Friday. I put a hamster wheel and dynamo in her room."
People lost their collective shit. It was in the news, people petitioned [sic] for the cancellation of his show (which didn't happen) and the ever popular old white male made its rounds.
To his credit, Nuhr didn't back down. Quite the opposite. He doubled down.

If 20 years ago you'd have told me that the last mainstream comedian in Germany to be even remotely based would end up being Dieter Nuhr, it'd have been the first time I'd had ever laughed at anything connected to Dieter Nuhr.

 

[AnOminous]

True. That bothered me from day 1. Greta herself said something like "they think they don't have to take me seriously, because I'm a child" (or something like it. I don't remember. I know she loved to call herself a child).

Anyone who can't take a joke shouldn't be taken seriously, either.

There some others comedians who should do the same and Nuhr should even triple down.

This is why you never pander to wokeshits. If your popularity depends on the whims of these neurotic freakazoids, they can withdraw it and cancel you. If your support comes from normies, normies do not give a single shit.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Comedian Lee Hurst has been banned from Twitter, and had his upcoming comedy tour cancelled, for taking a shot at Greta..... It's strange because I thought he'd stole the joke, but it's apparently his own work.

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If you think about it, its an interesting double entrende, even if the joke is (somewhat) graphic:

-Greta still uses products that have plastic on it
-Greta has not had sex yet
-Greta discovers safe sex and might use a condom
-“Cocks” are used for condoms
- Condoms are plastic

Only mistake this comedian made was still use Twitter. Other than that, this was a funny joke for how interesting it is worded.