Google Stadia General Discussion - Like any other gaming platform, but worse.

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Pissmaster General said:
Reddit's mad that Black Friday sales were promised on Stadia but not delivered, hahahahahahaha:

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Then there's this guy:
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"Classism has always existed in gaming culture" - this nigga thinks shitposts about the PC Master Race are classism, hahahaha. They're jokes, dummy. It's not classism when absolutely every single person is just $500 away from buying a decent desktop and making a Steam account. Besides, aren't flagship smartphones more expensive than any PC or console? The current top-end, maxed out iPhone is $1,500.

But, hmm, I wonder. What kind of person posts that kind of screed?

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Plenty of Google-related subs, but not a single one that's related to video games at all. That makes sense.

And just out of curiosity, what was his first post? What pushed him to make an account and contribute to the world?

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I'm all for having this guy put up against the wall.
 
Pissmaster General said:
"Classism has always existed in gaming culture" - this nigga thinks shitposts about the PC Master Race are classism, hahahaha. They're jokes, dummy. It's not classism when absolutely every single person is just $500 away from buying a decent desktop and making a Steam account. Besides, aren't flagship smartphones more expensive than any PC or console? The current top-end, maxed out iPhone is $1,500.
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Not to agree with the "classism" part, but gaming PCs can reach over $1,500 if you try. the GTX 2080ti is over 1k which when I discussed with a tech friend of mine how much hardware Stadia would need to stream 4k60fps they pointed me to that graphics card as a rough idea. Titan GPUs can be multiple thousands, i7 CPUs can be near 400 USD. You can easily make a gaming PC cost $1,500 if you tried and if you want "top-end" it'd cost much more.

Obviously once you reach around this price point you're purely aiming for a performance level way above what consoles can do and above a performance level that most people likely care about. If we're talking about purely console level performance that isn't hard to obtain at all, especially if you just buy parts and install stuff yourself.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Not to agree with the "classism" part, but gaming PCs can reach over $1,500 if you try. the GTX 2080ti is over 1k which when I discussed with a tech friend of mine how much hardware Stadia would need to stream 4k60fps they pointed me to that graphics card as a rough idea. Titan GPUs can be multiple thousands, i7 CPUs can be near 400 USD. You can easily make a gaming PC cost $1,500 if you tried and if you want "top-end" it'd cost much more.

Obviously once you reach around this price point you're purely aiming for a performance level way above what consoles can do and above a performance level that most people likely care about. If we're talking about purely console level performance that isn't hard to obtain at all, especially if you just buy parts and install stuff yourself.
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I know, but once you hit the $1500 mark you're getting to the point where you're sourcing parts and ending up with either way more power than most games need, or something that's not designed for gaming, like a workstation or a Mac. I was thinking along the lines of what you can get prebuilt, since if you're attracted to Stadia for its ease of use, you're not the type of person who would buy a GPU unless it was already inside a complete machine.

This guy just proves so beautifully how Stadia is a thing that's only attractive to those who don't actually play video games. He managed to type a whole essay about a gaming platform without actually talking about what he was playing, just how he was playing it. He already played 60 hours of Assassin's Creed across three computers with different OSes, a TV, and a phone, but doesn't have a thing to say about it? 60 hours in 10 days? So... at least 6 hours a day, every single day since Stadia came out? If he wanted to play it that badly, why didn't he play it within the past year? He's swimming in computers and has the time to apparently take two weeks off to do nothing but play video games, sure seems like he could have obtained it no problem.

Maybe he's the same guy behind that one Twitter account that keeps promoting Stadia aggressively.
 
Pissmaster General said:
I know, but once you hit the $1500 mark you're getting to the point where you're sourcing parts and ending up with either way more power than most games need, or something that's not designed for gaming, like a workstation or a Mac. I was thinking along the lines of what you can get prebuilt, since if you're attracted to Stadia for its ease of use, you're not the type of person who would buy a GPU unless it was already inside a complete machine.
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That's fair, though if you want solid 4k you'd probably want to consider a machine of that strength and price point for gaming specifically. If Stadia actually had 4k60fps, it doesn't but lets pretend it did or any other streaming service in the future could do it, then a service like this has some value to consider especially if you don't want to be concerned about upgrading your hardware ever. The whole point of this service in terms of a marketable concept is you don't need hardware because Google does that for you, this includes never having to upgrade your computer. You just pay a reasonable upfront fee and a subscription.

My biggest issue with Stadia's value as a long going service, ignoring the internet concerns and latency issues that everyone else has talked about to death, is it doesn't match what higher end PCs can do even remotely. From what I looked up the performance is roughly that of a RX 570 or 580 GPU which isn't very impressive and nothing runs at 4k likely because it can't run at 4k, so if this thing is at best a decent PC then why should anyone pay a subscription and have to deal with the internet requirements? Just feels like it is for early adopting tech enthusiasts and hipsters.
 
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Zeke Von Genbu said:
Not to agree with the "classism" part, but gaming PCs can reach over $1,500 if you try. the GTX 2080ti is over 1k which when I discussed with a tech friend of mine how much hardware Stadia would need to stream 4k60fps they pointed me to that graphics card as a rough idea. Titan GPUs can be multiple thousands, i7 CPUs can be near 400 USD. You can easily make a gaming PC cost $1,500 if you tried and if you want "top-end" it'd cost much more.

Obviously once you reach around this price point you're purely aiming for a performance level way above what consoles can do and above a performance level that most people likely care about. If we're talking about purely console level performance that isn't hard to obtain at all, especially if you just buy parts and install stuff yourself.
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But you’re just fine with a 1080, right?
 
Floop said:
But you’re just fine with a 1080, right?
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Yeah a 1080 is fine for 1080p 60 fps on basically anything to my knowledge. I use a RX 570, which is notably worse, and I run everything just fine. GTX 2080s and all that only really matter for 4k performance and ray tracing.

I pointed out the cost of the 2080 because Stadia's whole purpose conceptually, from my perspective, is that you can have a high end PC without ever needing to buy parts or upgrade anything if you pay 10 dollars a month. If Stadia could actually offer something that can do 4k60, then Stadia could have some niche value with internet and possible additional latency being the main stopping point for most people, but that is fixable in theory with time.

Stadia seems to be more or less stuck at 1080p60 so it sucks because if you just want that, getting a PC that can do that isn't nearly as expensive as something that can do 4k60 and you could upgrade that 1080p PC however you want overtime anyway so Stadia's whole value sucks except for people that just don't know any better.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Yeah a 1080 is fine for 1080p 60 fps on basically anything to my knowledge. I use a RX 570, which is notably worse, and I run everything just fine. GTX 2080s and all that only really matter for 4k performance and ray tracing.

I pointed out the cost of the 2080 because Stadia's whole purpose conceptually, from my perspective, is that you can have a high end PC without ever needing to buy parts or upgrade anything if you pay 10 dollars a month. If Stadia could actually offer something that can do 4k60, then Stadia could have some niche value with internet and possible additional latency being the main stopping point for most people, but that is fixable in theory with time.

Stadia seems to be more or less stuck at 1080p60 so it sucks because if you just want that, getting a PC that can do that isn't nearly as expensive as something that can do 4k60 and you could upgrade that 1080p PC however you want overtime anyway so Stadia's whole value sucks except for people that just don't know any better.
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I hear that some people just go overkill on their pc builds when they buy the new RTX card, then get mad at how they can't afford VR or some shit.
 
Stadia is worthless.
A Xbox One X can play games at 4k/30 and it costs 400$, can fit in a small backpack.
A switch or a chinese version that can run windows 10 and play games with low settings at 1080p or even 720p (like you really need 4k for a small screen) is even cheaper.
A gaming notebook for 1080p gaming is going to cost around 500-600$ next year and its way more useful.
Stadia is 10$ a month, plus 60$ per new game and 120-140$ for a dongle to connect to your tv that overheats if you play for too long,
Not to mention you need fast internet, probably wired and at least 1gbit for best quality and lag.
So, 240$, and you need fast internet, that may not be available in your area.
 
I knew before it released that it would be shit, and anyone who backed it since it's announcement deserves the trash that they got. I cannot comprehend how some people are surprised by how terrible it was. The only good thing that came of it was the 'gender-neutral' controller, and only because it gave me some chuckles.
All this commotion will die out in a couple of months, and we will never hear about it again, at least until Google gets the balls to throw their hat in the ring again, which I don't think will happen for at least a couple years.
 
Floop said:
Remember that one google ad that had that annoying scream?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MsKFo0VT2wk
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It's really just Google trying be hip and cool with the kids. Straight up the annoying trap scream makes it more irritating than "cool".

Stadia ad

The Stadia ad is what's wrong with Google's marketing department. It shows and overly energenic guy talking about like "Stadia doesn't take up any space." Which is "such a great tagline." Along with saying it's "for free-range people." Even though the vast majority of people would stay home to play console games. Most people already have some form of console, so why would they use the Stadia. So they play a console game on the bus? But it's not like the internet is going to be stable on that bus, and will pretty much not be for the next few years or more.
 
Turd Cow said:
It's really just Google trying be hip and cool with the kids. Straight up the annoying trap scream makes it more irritating than "cool".

Stadia ad

The Stadia ad is what's wrong with Google's marketing department. It shows and overly energenic guy talking about like "Stadia doesn't take up any space." Which is "such a great tagline." Along with saying it's "for free-range people." Even though the vast majority of people would stay home to play console games. Most people already have some form of console, so why would they use the Stadia. So they play a console game on the bus? But it's not like the internet is going to be stable on that bus, and will pretty much not be for the next few years or more.
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The Oculus Quest ads have this same energy too, but it’s not all in your face about it.
 
Turd Cow said:
The Stadia ad is what's wrong with Google's marketing department. It shows and overly energenic guy talking about like "Stadia doesn't take up any space." Which is "such a great tagline." Along with saying it's "for free-range people." Even though the vast majority of people would stay home to play console games. Most people already have some form of console, so why would they use the Stadia. So they play a console game on the bus? But it's not like the internet is going to be stable on that bus, and will pretty much not be for the next few years or more.
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When I was watching that ad I expected the guy to be like “republish this if you think that stadia is the most epicest platform of all time, and that consoles suck!”
 
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