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That awkward moment when not even the woke media will suck you off
Google Stadia General Discussion - Like any other gaming platform, but worse.
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That awkward moment when not even the woke media will suck you off
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You know, when it was announced, I did think I'd be able to at least try Stadia, considering I have a number of things that sounded like they could run it. Even aside from Stadia's clumsy execution and the Google guy making it excruciatingly clear that he doesn't know the video game business at all, the idea of running remote games on just about any screen you own does carry some merit. Not a lot of useful merit, it's really more of a novelty - people tend to get comfortable playing video games their own way, usually on just one screen. Maybe on your living room TV, your office computer, or in bed on your 3DS. Whichever way you tend to play games is one you grow accustomed to, that fits in your routine, and you're not likely gonna change that any time soon. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if most Switch owners spent at least 90% of their time playing it in whichever mode they prefer, docked or as a portable, while only playing it in the other mode when they absolutely have to. So, nobody needs a Stadia. Especially these days, when you can find PS4s and Xbox Ones for $100 used if you're really strapped for cash, and even 3-year-old video cards and processors can still run most stuff, even new games, at high settings. If you've wanted to play new video games within the past year, and you can afford to spend $60 on one game, you've already bought something that can play it. Guaranteed.
But, whatever. It exists now, and I guess yet another way to play video games isn't necessarily intrusive. Let's look at all the shit I own that was supposed to run it today:
I have a TV with a built-in Chromecast that can stream 4k video, and apparently Chromecast Ultra's whole point (Stadia aside) is that it can push 4k video, but absolutely nowhere does it say whether or not I'll ever be able to run Stadia through it. It's not looking likely, with how much they're specifying Chromecast Ultras. But wait, isn't the Chromecast Ultra a $70 thing that only does streaming? That's really not that much cheaper than a used PS4 or Xbox, why shouldn't I just get one of those? Hell, it's $140 total if you get a Chromecast Ultra and buy a Stadia controller, since the damn thing doesn't yet support other controllers like they said it would. And yeah, it's really $70. But, you know, it only comes in gender-neutral colors, so I guess I can look the other way because I'm a superficial faggot that thinks controllers not having color variety is a good thing. Oh man, diversity's great but every time I see a blue controller I screech because it's illegal for womyn to use blue controllers because blue's a boy's color. Is there a single person on the planet that didn't see through that as the flimsiest excuse to not have different colors? Fuck.
I also have a Samsung phone and a laptop, but Stadia's not coming to phones outside of the Google Pixel line until an unspecific date in 2020, and I refuse to install Chrome on my laptop because I already have Brave. And like, you know, Steam, which can already run games natively, and stream from my desktop. So either I can play the copy of Tomb Raider I bought for like $3 several years ago on just about anything, running it from my desktop computer, or I could pay... God knows how much, I couldn't find prices for individual games on Stadia yet.
With such a weak, limited launch, they're already starting off on the wrong foot. A bad first impression of a platform can sink it for good, just look at the Xbox One. The Xbox One really isn't a bad console. If you buy one and just about any game for it, it'll work fine. It just barely has any exclusives and not much of a reason for anyone to care when the PS4, Switch, and Steam are all stronger. Everyone loves having a heel to contrast with the faces, and the hostile DRM and Kinect ideas doomed the Xbone right out of the gate. The one-console DRM even got axed in the Xbone's day one update, for Christ's sake, but the announcement was enough for it to lurk over the platform like a dark cloud forever.
So I guess we're gonna laugh at Stadia for the next few years until Google inevitably pulls the plug and I can get a Stadia controller for its novelty for pennies on the dollar on eBay. Or maybe it'll be like the early-2010s fad where crappy Android consoles became all the rage, with like Ouya and Gamestick, and we'll see a bunch of random streaming services crop up, only to close after a while. Or maybe we'll march towards dystopia with game publishers all making their own game streaming apps of varied quality and have to deal with that for a while until they finally go back to making games on normal consoles because internet streaming is always a little bit crappy.
But, whatever. It exists now, and I guess yet another way to play video games isn't necessarily intrusive. Let's look at all the shit I own that was supposed to run it today:
I have a TV with a built-in Chromecast that can stream 4k video, and apparently Chromecast Ultra's whole point (Stadia aside) is that it can push 4k video, but absolutely nowhere does it say whether or not I'll ever be able to run Stadia through it. It's not looking likely, with how much they're specifying Chromecast Ultras. But wait, isn't the Chromecast Ultra a $70 thing that only does streaming? That's really not that much cheaper than a used PS4 or Xbox, why shouldn't I just get one of those? Hell, it's $140 total if you get a Chromecast Ultra and buy a Stadia controller, since the damn thing doesn't yet support other controllers like they said it would. And yeah, it's really $70. But, you know, it only comes in gender-neutral colors, so I guess I can look the other way because I'm a superficial faggot that thinks controllers not having color variety is a good thing. Oh man, diversity's great but every time I see a blue controller I screech because it's illegal for womyn to use blue controllers because blue's a boy's color. Is there a single person on the planet that didn't see through that as the flimsiest excuse to not have different colors? Fuck.
I also have a Samsung phone and a laptop, but Stadia's not coming to phones outside of the Google Pixel line until an unspecific date in 2020, and I refuse to install Chrome on my laptop because I already have Brave. And like, you know, Steam, which can already run games natively, and stream from my desktop. So either I can play the copy of Tomb Raider I bought for like $3 several years ago on just about anything, running it from my desktop computer, or I could pay... God knows how much, I couldn't find prices for individual games on Stadia yet.
With such a weak, limited launch, they're already starting off on the wrong foot. A bad first impression of a platform can sink it for good, just look at the Xbox One. The Xbox One really isn't a bad console. If you buy one and just about any game for it, it'll work fine. It just barely has any exclusives and not much of a reason for anyone to care when the PS4, Switch, and Steam are all stronger. Everyone loves having a heel to contrast with the faces, and the hostile DRM and Kinect ideas doomed the Xbone right out of the gate. The one-console DRM even got axed in the Xbone's day one update, for Christ's sake, but the announcement was enough for it to lurk over the platform like a dark cloud forever.
So I guess we're gonna laugh at Stadia for the next few years until Google inevitably pulls the plug and I can get a Stadia controller for its novelty for pennies on the dollar on eBay. Or maybe it'll be like the early-2010s fad where crappy Android consoles became all the rage, with like Ouya and Gamestick, and we'll see a bunch of random streaming services crop up, only to close after a while. Or maybe we'll march towards dystopia with game publishers all making their own game streaming apps of varied quality and have to deal with that for a while until they finally go back to making games on normal consoles because internet streaming is always a little bit crappy.
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Controllers have been made in black, white and gray for literally decades. They've always been "gender neutral." What exceptionalism bred this stupidity?You know what the Google Stadia needs to be a winner? GENDER NEUTRAL CONTROLLERS. OF COURSE.
Google is selling 'gender-neutral' controllers to appeal to women
Google hopes to get a competitive edge in the gaming industry by appealing to women with its new game service, Stadia. 'Some of our historical competitors in the console space have been a bit more masculine and a bit more mechanical in their approach,' Phil Harrison, Google VP and head of...theweek.com
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I've only seen things quoted as full price. So $60
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Onlive in 2011 was better than that, and I had DSL at the time. Deus Ex: Human Revolution on there was playable. Uncomfortable, but playable.https://youtube.com/watch?v=o6pf988yFSc:26Don't worry guys it's got 0 lag...
I've only seen things quoted as full price. So $60
I've only seen $60 too, but surely the six-year-old Tomb Raider reboot can't be $60. If so, that's... optimistic.
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Honestly I don't think the Xbox One's that good of a example, while the the bad PR from launch certainly hurt it at first, at this point I think most have forgotten it. Really I think the only real, albeit major problem it has is lack of exclusives, the launch PR's a footnote in comparison to that.
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first game is currently 20€ on steam, rise is 50€ (normal price, not on sale).
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Google will shut it down in 2020. It's not going to complete one single year.
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"Please make sure that your chromecast is within whispering distance of your router."
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Rising concerns about Google Stadia as I await its arrival — Bob Stanke | Marketing, Technology, Gaming
From the very first rumors of Google developing a gaming platform, I was hooked. Before there were official specs, screenshots, FTC filings, or any even an appearance at E3… I was all-in on whatever Google was cooking up. After a long wait to hear anything official, finally the first Stadia Connec
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Rising concerns about Google Stadia as I await its arrival
From the very first rumors of Google developing a gaming platform, I was hooked. Before there were official specs, screenshots, FTC filings, or any even an appearance at E3… I was all-in on whatever Google was cooking up. After a long wait to hear anything official, finally the first Stadia Connect went live on June 6, 2019, and I have to admit I was a bit blown away. What Google was claiming it could do was unlike any other gaming system. An all-cloud, hardware-less (except for a controller, of course), on-the-fly screen swapping experience that would push the industry in a new direction. I was sold. I was so in on what Google was coining “Stadia” that I rushed over to the Google Store and grabbed my place in line for the limited “Founder’s Edition”, with only the promise that the service would launch later in 2019.
In the very long five months since June 6, the Google Stadia team has been dropping small details on what was to come. On August 19, 2019, the Stadia team cleared up some questions about what will be functional when Stadia gets released, how family accounts will work, how your friend pass will be delivered, and most importantly, gave us a first look at all the launch titles. The also gave us the launch date… November 19, 2019. Excitement level high.
In September 2019, I had Comcast come out to the house to make sure I was getting the high-speed internet I am paying for. I even dropped some dough to get WiFi hotspot extenders to put around the house. After all, now that I can swap my live game from the big screen to mobile, I wanted no restrictions to my capabilities. My cellphone contract was up for renewal in October, and after SEVEN YEARS of sporting a Samsung Note device, I flipped to the Google Pixel 4 XL, knowing that the Pixel would be the only mobile device that can support Stadia at launch. I was prepping for the experience I have been looking forward to since June.
The day I am writing this post is November 19. My Founder’s Edition Stadia controller and Chromecast Ultra has been assigned a FedEx tracking number, left Carol Stream, Illinois at 6:23 AM today, and is due to arrive at my house tomorrow, November 20. I have read some of the initial reviews from the tech reviewers, and as always, I take them with a grain of salt. I trust Google, and I trust the Stadia team will make this a great product. I want to have faith, as I always have with Google, so in saying that, I hope things get better than…
WHAT I READ IN MY EMAIL LAST NIGHT.
Last night, just as I received the email that my bank account had been billed the $138,51 for the Founder’s Edition of Stadia and informing me that my controller was shipping, another email dropped in my inbox moments later. It was titled:
“Read This Before Playing Games on Stadia”
Reading that email sent dread running through my veins. It was basically Google Stadia’s recommendations for an ideal setup to play the new system. Let me tell you, it’s not ideal at all.
Here were some of the recommendations in the email:
1. “Connect the Google Chromecast Ultra to a router with an Ethernet cable. A wired connection between Chromecast and your router can make a big difference when playing games on your TV. If you don’t have that option, set up your wireless router in the same room as your Chromecast, but keep them at least a foot away from one another.”
Okay, first of all… connect the Chromecast to your router with an ETHERNET CABLE? Is this a joke? I don’t even own an ethernet cable. Last time I used an ethernet cable was like 2009. Oh, but don’t worry Bob, if you don’t have an ethernet cable, just make sure you have your Chromecast in the same room as your router. NO! My router is downstairs. My TV with the Chromecast is upstairs… WHERE I GAME! This was very disappointing to read, and told me that Google Stadia is not where Google wants it to be from a speed standpoint, even though they outlined in June the minimum wireless requirements, which I meet.
2. “For the best performance, don’t stream movies or music to other devices in other parts of the house while playing games on Stadia. It can slow things down.”
So if I want to game, I need to tell everyone else in the house to stop watching their stuff on Netflix or listening to Spotify? Really? Again, this goes to #1, internally at Google they are not there from a speed standpoint.
3. This one was not in the email, but showed up in the Stadia app last night when I was trying to set everything up to prepare for Wednesday night… you can’t use a Google Account to tie your Stadia to. You can only use a personal Google account.
So let me get this straight… I PAY MONTHLY to use premium Google services and use that Google account to make purchases in the Google Store, and load Google Play gift cards to, but now I have to use a completely separate account to play Stadia? Is the infrastructure that Google has built on the back-end that different for personal versus paid accounts? This is also an issue with Google Home and Google Assistant as well. Google Assistant STILL can’t tell me my calendar events each day because it can’t access a Google Account. If anything, paying customers should have first access to features like that, as well as be able to tie Stadia to their account. It gets worse… the Stadia app says that once you select an account to use for Stadia (a personal Google account), you cannot switch accounts later. So if Google does fix this issue, I still won’t be able to switch my Stadia account back to my professional Google account.
Reading that email last night was very disheartening. It was basically a “cover our ass” email from the Stadia team. I built my personal setup to play Stadia at launch and now I have to open up a free Google account and figure out how to play on devices that are centered around my professional account. On top of that, who know how my experience will be because I don’t want to plug my Chromecast into an ethernet port, or play in the basement. But now if I have a bad experience, they can reference the email as “we told you beforehand”.
But I also don’t want to have to return my Stadia either. So again, I have faith in Google - which is good and bad - so I will hold out hope that they are putting everything behind making this a success. There is A TON of money in gaming, and gamers will spend it. Google, get it right so that you can be the one we give money to for a great gaming experience.
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What the fuck did they even mean by this?
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It means that you shouldn't even breathe, lest you even slightly interfere with the radio waves eminating from your router. Stadia is a very fragile system, appearantly.
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Pat and Woolie have been talking about Stadia on the podcast for half a year now and it seems like everything they've said has come true.
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Launch has been the expected shitshow, r/stadia is on fire and twitter is a goldmine
Sums it all up
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- Founders edition (early presales) not arriving and reports of later signups receiving theirs.
- Emails with unlock code to non physical editions not going out.
- Names are first come first serve, so people are pissed they backed early and can't reserve 'their' name
- Stadia must have forgotten their reddit passwords from their AMA because they are hiding out on discord instead. Twitter handle is too busy sending 'YEET' messages to answer or address consumer complaints.
- Using any sort of internet tanks your connection, official response is to not use any internet.
- Stuttering / lag/slowdown / connection issues. Anti Eichenwald defense system
- Irregular lag, Paul Tassi wrote an article about his home ~300mb connection as worse than a hotels 92mb connection. Also other reports of it running better on phones
Sums it all up
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Damn it