Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

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Who is going to get hit the hardest?

  • North America

  • South America

  • Asia

  • Europe

  • Australia

  • Africa

  • The Middle East

  • Everyone's fucked

  • Nothing will happen

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The idiot low key calling for economic war with countries that dare ... act independently.
 
Narcotics said:
As a final and personal note, I thought it was a weird move by Russia to do this, specially since Germany had bullied Canada into giving the damn turbine back to the russians in spite of zelensky's whishes and the Russians earn a lot of money from their gas revenues,
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The turbine in question is still in legal limbo. The Canadian courts got asked to step in and stop the transfer:

So the Russians have declared this action to put more pressure on Canada to cut the red tape. While, I have heard that the turbine is being shipped, it is unclear if it will actually be released into Russian custody with this legal battle going on.
 
BONE_Buddy said:
The turbine in question is still in legal limbo. The Canadian courts got asked to step in and stop the transfer:

So the Russians have declared this action to put more pressure on Canada to cut the red tape. While, I have heard that the turbine is being shipped, it is unclear if it will actually be released into Russian custody with this legal battle going on.
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Very cool. I hope the EU sanctions Canada for this act of wilful sabotage lmao. Thanks Canadians, never knew you were an ally of Putin.
 
Narcotics said:
As a final and personal note, I thought it was a weird move by Russia to do this, specially since Germany had bullied Canada into giving the damn turbine back to the russians in spite of zelensky's whishes and the Russians earn a lot of money from their gas revenues, I don't understand the ruski move here in the long term either, but who knows, the pipeline's scheduled maintenance is supposed to be finished on the 22nd. By the way, some articles i've been reading claim that the turbine held hostage by canada, which is now on it's way back to russia, has no chance of being returned before July 21 (and this is assuming to other bs happens in between), this messes up planning and logistics more than they already were. As i said, Russia gets tons of money just from it's gas revenue alone, 400 million euros a DAY supplying Europe with gas. That's 146 billion euros a year, they would be cutting off a big ammount of this revenue, maybe it's a short squeeze to test how euros would react? i don't know, we'll have to see.
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Russia doesn't care so much about money, but power. Money is all well and good, but you if you can't buy what you want with it (in this case, Energy) - it doesn't matter at all.

Europe and the US have been encroaching the fuck out of Russia - coming to a head when the US convinced Ukraine to break their gentlemen's agreement with Russia ("We don't invade you if you don't join NATO") and then the EU and US sanctioned the shit out of Russia and tripped over one other to supply Ukraine with money, soldiers, and advanced weapons to fight a proxy war. Look at this list of shit Ukraine has just from Germany - imagine being Russia and they're amping up your neighbor to fight you and arming them to the teeth to do it. And then when that falls apart and they need energy - they have the absolute balls to come over to you, hat in hand, and ask for help.

  • 20000 protective vests in 2014[187]
  • Vektor reconnaissance drones (not provided by federal government)[188]
The following has been delivered to Ukraine according to the federal government:[189]

  • 3,000 Panzerfaust 3 cartridges plus 900 launchers, with the first 1000 being sent on 26 February 2022, breaking a long tradition of banning weapon exports to active warzones.[190][191]
  • 14,900 anti-tank mines
  • 500 STINGER anti-aircraft missiles
  • 2,700 9K32 Strela-2m[192][193] 700 were found to be no longer usable.
  • 5,100 MATADOR anti-tank weapons via Dynamit Nobel[194]
  • Additional 2,900 MATADOR anti-tank weapons via Dynamit Nobel by June 26 [195][196]
  • 21.8 million rounds of handgun ammunition
  • 5 million 7.62×51mm NATO rounds[197]
  • 3 million 5.56×45mm NATO rounds[197]
  • 100 MG 3 machine guns with 500 spare barrels and bolts
  • 100,000 hand grenades
  • 5,300 explosive charges
  • 100,000 meters of detonating cord and 100,000 detonators
  • 350,000 detonators
  • 100 auto-injectors
  • 14 anti-drone sensors and jammers
  • 10 anti-drone cannons
  • 28,000 combat helmets
  • 15 pallets of military clothing
  • 280 motor vehicles ( trucks, minibuses, SUVs)
  • 100 tents
  • 12 power generators
  • 6 pallets of material for explosive ordnance disposal
  • 125 twin telescopes
  • 18 pallets of medical supplies, 60 surgical lights
  • Protective clothing, surgical masks
  • 10,000 sleeping bags
  • 600 shooting glasses
  • 1 radio frequency system
  • 3,000 field telephones with 5,000 reels of field cord and carrying equipment
  • 1 field hospital (joint project with Estonia)
  • 353 Night vision goggles (NVG's)
  • 4 electronic anti-drone devices[198]
  • 165 binoculars
  • Medical supplies (including rucksacks, first-aid kits)
  • 38 laser range finder
  • Fuel diesel and petrol
  • 10 tons of AdBlue
  • 500 pieces of wound dressings to stop bleeding
  • MiG-29 spare parts
  • 30 armored vehicles
  • 10,500 rounds of artillery ammunition (including SMArt 155 guided ammunition [199][200])
  • 14 armored cars by 25 March[197] (probably now included in either the "motor vehicle" or "armored vehicle" entries(?))
  • "Vector" reconnaissance VTOL drones via Quantum-Systems[201][202]
  • 20,000 protective-vests (in 2014)[203]
  • 1,300 bullet-proof vests[197]
  • 500,000 military food rations[198]
  • 10 Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers including adaptation, training and spare parts provided by the German Army in Idar-Oberstein[204](joint project with the Netherlands)
  • 10,000 155 mm artillery ammunition
Signed off, not yet delivered due to training or technical adaption:

  • 53,000 rounds of anti-aircraft ammunition
  • 8 mobile ground radars and thermal imaging devices
  • 4,000 rounds of anti-aircraft training ammunition
  • 10 (+ optional 10) autonomous surface vessels
  • 14 semi trucks and trailers
  • 2 tractor units and 4 trailers
  • 1 high frequency device and related equipment
  • 10 protected vehicles
  • 7 jammers
  • 8 electronic anti-drone devices
  • 4 mobile, remote-controlled and protected demining devices
  • 1 vehicle decontamination point
  • 43 recon Drones
  • 54 M113 armored personnel carriers with armament (systems from Denmark, conversion financed by Germany)
  • 30 GEPARD anti-aircraft tanks including around 6,000 rounds of anti-aircraft ammunition
  • 80 Toyota pickup
  • 100,000 first aid kits
  • 22 trucks
  • IRIS-T SL air defence system(s)[205]
  • 3 MARS II along with GMLRS rockets[206][207]
  • Cobra counter-battery radar system(s)[208][209]
  • 3 armored recovery vehicles
  • 5 Biber bridge laying tanks[210]

Russia was given a golden opportunity by Biden and Merkel - who destroyed their respective nations energy independence for no discernable reason. After fucking with him (Biden in particular, considering the shit he already did in Ukraine as VP) they, for no actual reason, thought they could show Putin their weak spot and he wouldn't go for it immediately - which he predictable did and is probably still laughing about it to this day. More hilarious is that Donald Trump (aka Hitler) told Germany and several other countries this several times and they laughed at him - well, who's laughing now?
 
Kermit Jizz said:
So does this mean we're actually doing WW3? This seems like the point of no return, but I might just be gay and retarded.
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I sure hope not, or I'll be sitting in an internment camp as a conscientious objector, or buried in a mass grave. Such is life.
Matt Damon said:
Russia, China, and India are going to get their economic bloc in order and start peeling resentful vassal states away from the US and we'll have nothing to blame but our own idiotic hubris.
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Exactly, and they already have been. There have been several announcements over the past few months of nations potentially(meaning almost certainly) being admitted to BRICS in the future. Most notably the Saudies are queued up to join the new monetary regime.

They're going to peel off south america, and the middle east, these alone will ensure the collapse of the West. The US may be able to limp on by once its cut off from the greater world economy simply based on it's natural resource pool, but it will mean an end to the consumeristic life style we've all been trained to expect. Europe... well I fear if they chose to remain loyal to the globo homo empire they will return to the 19th century, and the guillotine will be all the rage again.

As is typical of human beings and nations alike our own hubris has sown our destruction. The west has two options, play ball and settle up to the new(theoretically fairer, though we'll have to see how that plays out) monetary table, or rot in solitude as we watch the rest of the globe move on from our dollar ponzi scheme.

Considering how insane the people who run our nations are I have very little hope of a humbling turn of heart in the near future.
 
Matt Damon said:
Russia, China, and India are going to get their economic bloc in order and start peeling resentful vassal states away from the US and we'll have nothing to blame but our own idiotic hubris.
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And it's going to suck just as much how BRICS sucks. At least for the citizenry. Why would you invest into a system that doesn't care about its population? Say what you will about globohomo but Americans have sanitation.
 
Lol with WW3 doomposting. Germany will cuck and suck the Russians. You think any country in Europe will risk thousands, even dozens, of soldier casualties (that they don't have) to control the gas reserves? You think Biden USA will start a war when they are already expecting massive political defeat and economic depression? It's a war where you need boots on the ground, you can't just bombs a couple of locations and declare victory.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Lol with WW3 doomposting. Germany will cuck and suck the Russians. You think any country in Europe will risk thousands, even dozens, of soldier casualties (that they don't have) to control the gas reserves? You think Biden USA will start a war when they are already expecting massive political defeat and economic depression? It's a war where you need boots on the ground, you can't just bombs a couple of locations and declare victory.
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Obviously it's very unlikely, but you never know these days.
 
Maurice Caine said:
Obviously it's very unlikely, but you never know these days.
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Btw, while typing my original comment I thought of Monty Python's "funniest joke" skit only instead of British soldiers saying the joke in German, it is Russian soldiers saying the "You will never be a real woman" meme to American soldiers to the same deadly effect.
 
Maurice Caine said:
And it's going to suck just as much how BRICS sucks. At least for the citizenry. Why would you invest into a system that doesn't care about its population? Say what you will about globohomo but Americans have sanitation.
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You've already proven your ignorance of current affairs so I presume you have no idea that the BRICS system has been signaling(very strongly at this point I might add) that moving forward they would like to shift currencies to a commodity backing.

Now I don't know that this will come to pass, but trying to trap other nations into a new fiat debt scheme seems rather foolish when you've just witnessed your enemies die by it. Not saying it's impossible, however I find it rather unlikely especially in the first years of the system.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
You've already proven your ignorance of current affairs so I presume you have no idea that the BRICS system has been signaling(very strongly at this point I might add) that moving forward they would like to shift currencies to a commodity backing.

Now I don't know that this will come to pass, but trying to trap other nations into a new fiat debt scheme seems rather foolish when you've just witnessed your enemies die by it. Not saying it's impossible, however I find it rather unlikely especially in the first years of the system.
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Never underestimate the allure of short-term gain. Fiat is a powerful way to siphon economic power from the schmucks foolish enough to buy into it. It still took what, fifty years of printing to finally collapse the system. (Assuming you started at Bretton-Woods failure and not before).
 
Matt Damon said:
Russia, China, and India are going to get their economic bloc in order and start peeling resentful vassal states away from the US and we'll have nothing to blame but our own idiotic hubris.
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The saddest part is the US could've gotten India and Russia nominally on our side to contain China. Even with China's shit demographics, hundreds of millions of people is still a huge bonus to their power (and it isn't like China gives a fuck about old peasants dying). China is the #1 threat to the current world system and only country that can be a superpower before the 22nd century, and their world system will be at least as bad as the 21st century American world system.

In a retrospective, we would see the Cold War desires to defeat the USSR, which led to the CIA recruiting a huge number of Ukrainians who were or were related to Nazi collaborators, led to said Ukrainians becoming an influential bloc of our deep state which prevented reproachment with Russia while our own capitalist excesses led to us shipping our industry and resources to China, our future enemy. We let China infiltrate our state, and ideologically we made ideas like McCarthyism and wariness of foreigners as some of the great evils in our history. We decided that Russia, a second-rate power, was the real enemy and wasted our resources in conflict with them.

We are fucked.
Kane Lives said:
Very cool. I hope the EU sanctions Canada for this act of wilful sabotage lmao. Thanks Canadians, never knew you were an ally of Putin.
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Justin Trudeau will go down in history as one of the absolute most incompetent leaders in history. Ever read about the literally insane Chinese Emperors during the periods of division in China? Trudeau will be considered like that in the future. His retarded spat with Saudi Arabia pre-2020, "peoplekind" and his endless social justice-inspired gaffs, how he handled the trucker protest, this latest incident. Don't ever call him Castro's bastard son, because that's an insult to the man who held out for 50+ years against CIA plots and kept his country semi-functional despite wasting its resources on insanity like making his own Vietnam War equivalents to spread communism in Africa.
 
Kane Lives said:
Never underestimate the allure of short-term gain. Fiat is a powerful way to siphon economic power from the schmucks foolish enough to buy into it. It still took what, fifty years of printing to finally collapse the system. (Assuming you started at Bretton-Woods failure and not before).
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True, and I made the prior statement with the knowledge that often times a failed fiat system is simply exchanged for a new iteration. Breton woods is an aberration in monetary history, the closest comparison I can think of is the roman/byzantine currency debasement; the difference being that there were still currencies that weren't grossly debased, as soon as you left the empire you could do business in truly valued currency. Today there is no currency in the world that even approaches sound money, which is why the hangover is going to be horrendous.
 
My country is getting told by the media talking heads that inflation has peaked, which I'm sure means that it's going to get worse on average considering their recent track record. The world will probably only have a real idea of how bad this is when we have the figures for the end of this year.

If this somehow does devolve into a global conflict, I guess it just comes down to whatever the fuck is going on in China. No one really knows what they're feeling right now. We know the property system they've built their expansion on is on the edge of going down in flames. We have no idea how strong their military actually is. I like to imagine Xi in a techbro outfit weighing up the pros and cons of using the military on a whiteboard somewhere. Seems like Russia is cutting off the gas supply, I wonder what that's actually going to look like in Germany and the rest of Europe. Rationing of gas? Winter is coming, what then?
 
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apolloday said:
My country is getting told by the media talking heads that inflation has peaked, which I'm sure means that it's going to get worse on average considering their recent track record. The world will probably only have a real idea of how bad this is when we have the figures for the end of this year.

If this somehow does devolve into a global conflict, I guess it just comes down to whatever the fuck is going on in China. No one really knows what they're feeling right now. We know the property system they've built their expansion on is on the edge of going down in flames. We have no idea how strong their military actually is. I like to imagine Xi in a techbro outfit weighing up the pros and cons of using the military on a whiteboard somewhere. Seems like Russia is cutting off the gas supply, I wonder what that's actually going to look like in Germany and the rest of Europe. Rationing of gas? Winter is coming, what then?
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yknow if shit really starts to hit the fan, it could be good practise to start stocking up on wood and stuff. make a cooking setup outside, a water barrel, maybe even a biogas digester if you have the stuff to do it.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Lol with WW3 doomposting. Germany will cuck and suck the Russians. You think any country in Europe will risk thousands, even dozens, of soldier casualties (that they don't have) to control the gas reserves? You think Biden USA will start a war when they are already expecting massive political defeat and economic depression? It's a war where you need boots on the ground, you can't just bombs a couple of locations and declare victory.
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If there's one thing clown world has taught me, its to never speak in absolutes, lest I be forced to wear the red nose and shoes.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Euros being cucks is like a global constant, not too dissimilar to the speed of light.
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People used to say the sound barrier would never be broken and that the first nuclear bomb to be detonated would spark a chain reaction that would burn off the Earth's entire atmosphere, killing all life. I was going to say that people used to think the Earth was flat, but clown world already took care of that group.

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