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For some reason people hate Chasca's design and I don't know why. I suspect it's the normal twitter crowd bitching that she isn't brown enough. I need to run her trial a few times before deciding to pull for her or just keep saving for the Pyro Archon.
 
DenseDeerFather said:
New Banner today I think. What's the consensus on Chasca and Genshin Moze?
Not that I'm interested in Chasca. I'm just curious.
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There is already leaked gameplay and official one out there.

>Chasca

She's basically aimed charge shot wanderer that fires bullets from team mate elements that are swirlable. Instead of flying with her and mashing, you fly, press aim wait to charge 6 bullets and fire (they're auto aim). 3 bulelts are anemo and 3 are ally bullet but those are much strongers.

This leads to a bizarre scenario where Chasca is an anemo DPS that doesnt want anemo goblet because most of her damage isn't anemo. She actually wants atk% goblet and dmg% bonus from any source, with her passive giving her 65% bonus damage (!) when having 3 different swirlable elements.

In other words, Chasca wants rainbow teams that support charge shoters and that's harder than it sounds if you don't use bennet+furina. btw neither slingshot nor amos bow passive work with her because she doesn't fire "Projectiles" (its instant).

Theorists say she strong but they also said wanderer was strong until they realize playing him was actually hard on practice. We'll have to wait and see.

>Ororon

Ororon is normal ass electro 4* subdps, he press E+Q and leaves a spinning electro soundwave. His main gimmick is that he gets nightsoul when teammates do hydro/electro damage and he gets buffs during electrocharge. This kinda forces him to play quicken if you want to use the natlan set that are very good, the problem is that electro charge is a dead reaction so he'll probably not be great or anything, just passable.

I have guarantee so i'm 100% saving for pyro archon but man, i kinda really want to get Neuvilete c1 cause i play him so much... If anyone has it please tell me if it's worth it lol. Playing him without zong while being stronger sounds nice.
 
DenseDeerFather said:
New Banner today I think. What's the consensus on Chasca and Genshin Moze?
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Banner duration ends way before a new patch launch. For Asia, it will be less than 24 hours from this post. Not gonna repeat much what others have said.

Chasca, asking yourself do you like a bow-charged play style or not? Tighnari, Lyney, Ganyu and one of Sethos style are this. Which means requiring an additional shield character to not let mobs interrupt charging the shot. Having Zhongli may not be the best shielder choice despite his tankiest shield and resistance shred. Since he isn't a PHEC (Pyro, Hydro, Electro, Cryo) to help convert her bullets into different elements. MHY being typical greedy make her C1 to eliminate rng of converting her bullets.
Since she's a Natlan character, so conveniently Obsidian Codex artifact is her best, free 40% Cr.Rate as full set bonus. Less requiring Cr.Rate sub stats to build, 80% cr.rate should be aimed for these burst attack characters. Bow-charged chars have really high frontload damage, but not necessary high dps characters. You still need good off-field dps chars to cover.
Although, she's probably the easier bow-charged to play since her arrows/bullets having aim-bot, no need for precise aiming.
I like her when she has fully black irises.
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Otherwise, one of the few exploration travel powercreep character. So she should feel quite convenient to play most of the time.
Ororon is useable at C0. But C2 and C6, of course having C6 is the best. Just that for long time players, other 4* like Barbara and Sucrose are meh in the same banner.

Edit: Woman is so suffered (losing her sister recently) that even Lynette isn't allowed to be on same banner as Lyney.

LucasSomething said:
i kinda really want to get Neuvilete c1 cause i play him so much
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Spiral abyss nerds love it.
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But one could argue that Xilonen crystals are enough in that comp.

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HSR thing, I really like Herta 2.0 appearance, much better than Tingyun 2.0.
Up to anyone cares and willing enough (because doing it for free) to story-spoil me for Tingyun 2.0 when it's out. I can't be bother looking up on youtube by then. Also, can't wait to see how Remembrance path being the next best thing. I'm just slightly curious how it will go.
 
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Maybe I'm just retarded but am I stupid to kinda get displeased at characters that can't function without another character?

Reading the thread, my prime example is someone like Mika who's apparently complete ass without Eula.

Of course there are support characters whose main purpose is to heal and add buffs and whatnot. I think that's fine. I think my issue is more if a character's usefulness is dependent on whether or you have another.

I guess I like characters that are more versatile. Idk disregard this post if it doesn't make any sense. Just a random thought.
 
5 star Herta is coming 1732021933267.png

In ZZZ and WuWa news, they've both been nominated for mobile game of the year. WuWa's giving out 1k astrites.
 
No, you're 100% right to be annoyed at characters that suck because they need a very specific team/character/constellation in order to function. Mika exists only to buff Eula because Eula is fucked as they moved away from Physical damage to focus (correctly) on elemental reactions instead so she's in a really awkward spot. I expect them to just dump Eula on the standard banner and move on.

HSR has a similar problem where parts of a characters kit is split off onto their light cone, Firefly is the worse offender here.
 
Troon Whisperer said:
HSR has a similar problem where parts of a characters kit is split off onto their light cone, Firefly is the worse offender here.
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Don't forget Blade, Boothill and Acheron, when they were first released, you would be forced to get their lightcones.
 
DenseDeerFather said:
Maybe I'm just retarded but am I stupid to kinda get displeased at characters that can't function without another character?

Reading the thread, my prime example is someone like Mika who's apparently complete ass without Eula.

Of course there are support characters whose main purpose is to heal and add buffs and whatnot. I think that's fine. I think my issue is more if a character's usefulness is dependent on whether or you have another.

I guess I like characters that are more versatile. Idk disregard this post if it doesn't make any sense. Just a random thought.
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No, that's valid, ESPECIALLY in a gacha game where it can take over a year to get reruns.

The problem with Mika isn't him, it's that he's a physical dmg buffer in a game with ONE (1) single physical dmg dps after 4 years. And physical also sucks. So mika sucks.

If you want a much worse example look at Sara. She gives less atk and energy than bennet, doesn't heal, feels clunky to use and only becomes semi-viable at C6 on a hypercarry raiden comp. At least you can copium force Mika on other comps thanks to healing+ atk speed buff.

This is why the best characters are those that don't need nobody to get shit done and deliver the highest results for lowest effort like neuvilete or zhongli.

Troon Whisperer said:
No, you're 100% right to be annoyed at characters that suck because they need a very specific team/character/constellation in order to function. Mika exists only to buff Eula because Eula is fucked as they moved away from Physical damage to focus (correctly) on elemental reactions instead so she's in a really awkward spot. I expect them to just dump Eula on the standard banner and move on.

HSR has a similar problem where parts of a characters kit is split off onto their light cone, Firefly is the worse offender here.
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Firefly at least has Aeon as a good f2p option, to the point it was near equal to her sig until they nerfed her conversion. Meanwhile boothill doesn't have shit because there is no f2p cone that gives break effect.

A better example is acheron who gets an extra stack locked to her LC Sunday's signature. His cone is basically bronya's cone 2.5, giving him more energy, skill points and longer buffs, turning him SP positive and making Sparkle officially pointless.
 
DenseDeerFather said:
Maybe I'm just retarded but am I stupid to kinda get displeased at characters that can't function without another character?

Reading the thread, my prime example is someone like Mika who's apparently complete ass without Eula.

Of course there are support characters whose main purpose is to heal and add buffs and whatnot. I think that's fine. I think my issue is more if a character's usefulness is dependent on whether or you have another.

I guess I like characters that are more versatile. Idk disregard this post if it doesn't make any sense. Just a random thought.
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Because you are mistaken/confused character utility function in game meta - design philosophy and synergy with other characters.
Big three MHY games all are designed with RPG aspect - character synergy in mind. Even in ZZZ, burst dps characters like Zhu Yuan, Corin and Anton are heavily relied on-field stunner like Qingyi and lesser extend Anby. Stunner units only exist for ATK character type.

Mika is a burst healer - team wide healing with buffing physical damage and basic attack speed. He is versatile, he isn't the best choice.
Looking at healing aspect, he's comparable to Jean, Xianyun, Sayu and Charlotte. He doesn't have to play circle impact like Sayu, Charlotte and Jean. But he heals less than Charlotte - Jean - Xianyun. He needs C6 unlike Charlotte is good at C0. He can't resistance shred like Sayu with swirl.
You can use Mika as sole healer in Furina team, but then he competes with Baizhu and even Sigewinne. It's quite amusing that even Sigewinne having higher usage rate than Mualani the current spiral abyss.
Now looking at his buffing, basic attack speed. Ayato, Yoimiya and Wanderer can be benefited from that buffing type. But it's that as in their own specific best team comp due to game meta.
Physical damage is a meme.

I'm sure you know not all characters or classes are designed to be equal in any games ever. There will be characters or classes are made just because they have to be made within development schedule. Also considering disparity power between 4* and 5* units in gacha. In quantity, Genshin right now has 4* and 5* units being the same amount. HSR 5* are many more than 4*. Even ZZZ, 5* are getting way more.
 
I wish they'd add more in general.

Also Jesus HSR suffers from lack of skip dialouge option. Currently doing the March The Hunt free Es event and basically each chapter are identical except for the ending and a few in between cutscenes. It's mind-numbing

Edit: got bored and did Yukongs companion quest. Now I see why there's so much drama about LESBIANS regarding her. Unless it's normal for grown ass adult women to seethe with raging jealousy and disdain because a man swooped in and married their best friends. Even getting butthurt about the two of flirting or being alone.

*sigh*

I'm used to a different scenario where the girl wants the man instead. But alas maybe this is something about Chinese women's culture that just flew over my fat head like Dan Feng/Blade having a drink.
 
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Stumbling7 said:
Off topic, Am I the only person wishes HSR devs would make more good 4 star units?

Every time I look at the banners, I check my account and be like "ok which units I don't have maxed Eidolon on?" I don't feel like pulling when 2/3 units are already E6.

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To be fair, every 4* since 1.6 was better than most genshin 4*. Xueyi is actually viable now with harmony TB, Galagher is genuinely top tier, misha is not meta but is better than yanqing and Moze/m7 are surprisingly good. They'll probably get powercreeped but star rail track history is better than genshin, they just don't drop 4* as fast.
 
LucasSomething said:
To be fair, every 4* since 1.6 was better than most genshin 4*. Xueyi is actually viable now with harmony TB, Galagher is genuinely top tier, misha is not meta but is better than yanqing and Moze/m7 are surprisingly good. They'll probably get powercreeped but star rail track history is better than genshin, they just don't drop 4* as fast.
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It's more just the power of meta-relevant 5*'s every patch diminishes the quality of 4*'s in comparison to what you are mainly pulling for every patch.
 
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