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Kaeya is like average, not sure where you heard that. He's a decent support dps/cryo applier, decent physical dps, or decent cryo dps with chong. He's underrated if anything. Maybe you mean Ganyu who shits out the highest raw numbers in the game?

Also the new abyss is literally Ganyu Impact. I've seen a handful of non-Ganyu full clears but most of the ones I've seen involve Ganyu. Stark contrast to the old abyss which gave you more freedom with your characters.
Beatable without her, just very hard to get 36 stars without. Also these motherfuckers are starting to design damage in general around shields, its getting annoying.

New event is fun too. I think I can get about 7500 points for now. Maybe there will be some fruits that give better buffs so that I can hit 8000. Its nice to have actual combat oriented events and not just annoying minigames.
I remember seeing some videos with Kaeya, though it might be more about just locking enemies into freeze loop and abusing his crit rate constellation bonuses.
So any recommendations on how to get a solid cryo dps? I have Chongyu if that helps.
 
I remember seeing some videos with Kaeya, though it might be more about just locking enemies into freeze loop and abusing his crit rate constellation bonuses.
Yeah thats how permafreeze comps work. With Blizzard Strayer (40% free CR on frozen opponents) and Cryo resonance (2 cryo on a team gives you 15% CR on cryo effected enemies) Cryo characters can get so much crit rate for free, so you just need to tack on as much crit damage as possible with artifacts and weapons. Just keep them frozen with Xingqiu and/or Mona, Chongyun to embue normals with cryo, and your 4th slot is super flexible

So any recommendations on how to get a solid cryo dps? I have Chongyu if that helps.
Yeah basically what I just said. Chongyun himself isnt a great DPS (I've tried) but he's a great support. Currently Kaeya and Rosaria are the only 2 who can take full advantage of permafreeze chongyun comps so either of them will work. Get Blackcliff off the shop for max crit damage.
 
Yeah thats how permafreeze comps work. With Blizzard Strayer (40% free CR on frozen opponents) and Cryo resonance (2 cryo on a team gives you 15% CR on cryo effected enemies) Cryo characters can get so much crit rate for free, so you just need to tack on as much crit damage as possible with artifacts and weapons. Just keep them frozen with Xingqiu and/or Mona, Chongyun to embue normals with cryo, and your 4th slot is super flexible


Yeah basically what I just said. Chongyun himself isnt a great DPS (I've tried) but he's a great support. Currently Kaeya and Rosaria are the only 2 who can take full advantage of permafreeze chongyun comps so either of them will work. Get Blackcliff off the shop for max crit damage.
And now I beat myself up for not investing in the icy goth nun. Couldn't a Chongyun+Xingqui+Diona also work? Since water boy has decent attack and is quick enough to perma freeze
 
And now I beat myself up for not investing in the icy goth nun. Couldn't a Chongyun+Xingqui+Diona also work? Since water boy has decent attack and is quick enough to perma freeze
Eh I mean technically you would freeze but you would be doing absolutely shit cryo damage. You really need a cryo DPS for it to work.

Edit: heres a clip I posted a few pages back of my team in action. Its kaeya permafreeze https://streamable.com/m3tkrf
 
Eh I mean technically you would freeze but you would be doing absolutely shit cryo damage. You really need a cryo DPS for it to work.

Edit: heres a clip I posted a few pages back of my team in action. Its kaeya permafreeze https://streamable.com/m3tkrf
combine it with electro (fischl works well) for superconduct and go phys. not perfect but works, that's how I was running my first team.

And now I beat myself up for not investing in the icy goth nun. Couldn't a Chongyun+Xingqui+Diona also work? Since water boy has decent attack and is quick enough to perma freeze
talents and good artifacts. unless you want to go abyss autism the important talents at 9 and somewhat leveled gold artifacts chew through almost everything, it's not even funny.

It would be a shame to get Zhongli, but Noelle and Diona are alright and the new character would make grinding level up materials far easier.
Also started grinding the new domain to get artifacts for Fischl (or Razor) so they'd be able to help me go through other domains (I'm struggling with killing pyro slimes fast enough, of all things)
wasn't keen on zhongli either, but man the support power is almost unmatched and probably won't be powercreeped for a while (if ever). absolute cheese on the new boss fight. also matches geomommy ning quite well.

New event is fun too. I think I can get about 7500 points for now. Maybe there will be some fruits that give better buffs so that I can hit 8000. Its nice to have actual combat oriented events and not just annoying minigames.
the main issue that it's a gear check, and getting gear is random as fuck (and good luck with character progression when you invest your resin into chasing artifacts).
it's worse that you can't even get carried unless you want to lurk fucking reddit or their shitty discord to find people, when there's already working matchmaking in the game. also doesn't help that it's not some side event this time.
I've said it before, but if I wanted to do retarded dps checks that require getting lucky with layers of rng on a limited number of slot machine pulls, I'd do fucking abyss.
 
the main issue that it's a gear check, and getting gear is random as fuck (and good luck with character progression when you invest your resin into chasing artifacts).
it's worse that you can't even get carried unless you want to lurk fucking reddit or their shitty discord to find people, when there's already working matchmaking in the game. also doesn't help that it's not some side event this time.
I've said it before, but if I wanted to do retarded dps checks that require getting lucky with layers of rng on a limited number of slot machine pulls, I'd do fucking abyss.
I mean you just need 5k points per domain to clear the entire shop. You dont need godlike substats for that, just matching main stats if that. Higher than that is for sweaties like me who haven't let their resin cap in months. I'm just happy to have a reason to actually bring out my heaviest hitters like Diluc and Venti.
 
To clear abyss I also need at least half of the team at talent 9 ?
Spent more than 3 months fixing the artifacts and got half done, thought it was enough. Also got a few weapons to 80 too.
 
I mean you just need 5k points per domain to clear the entire shop. You dont need godlike substats for that, just matching main stats if that. Higher than that is for sweaties like me who haven't let their resin cap in months. I'm just happy to have a reason to actually bring out my heaviest hitters like Diluc and Venti.
5k still means expert and enough of the aids modifiers, so you need the right combo of chars (no diluc banner and venti doesn't work on vishaps anyway afaik) and being lucky to have the artifact pieces you need that aren't completely dogshit. also means timer so you need to bring the dps, and since the vishaps are agile you want a freeze combo that works unless you really enjoy running around.

not saying it's impossible, just that it's the kind of cancer shit they can keep for the abyss, not main events leading a new patch.
 
To clear abyss I also need at least half of the team at talent 9 ?
Spent more than 3 months fixing the artifacts and got half done, thought it was enough. Also got a few weapons to 80 too.
Definitely not half. I recommend you hyperinvest into 1 or 2 DPS characters though, it will carry you far. Maybe 8/9/8 or something depending on which of the talents you use the most and a 90 weapon. And then for your supports anywhere between 60-80 is fine with a level 80 weapon. Usually they only use their skill and burst anyway so you can just do like 1/6/8 or something.
Also reserve level 90 for your waifu and nothing else. It takes a fucking INSANE amount of books and mora to go from 80 to 90 for like a 5% damage boost at most.
Thats just for beating abyss though. This new abyss is hyper aids if you're aiming for all stars. keep your sanity and don't bother unless you have Ganyu.
 
Definitely not half. I recommend you hyperinvest into 1 or 2 DPS characters though, it will carry you far. Maybe 8/9/8 or something depending on which of the talents you use the most and a 90 weapon. And then for your supports anywhere between 60-80 is fine with a level 80 weapon. Usually they only use their skill and burst anyway so you can just do like 1/6/8 or something.
Also reserve level 90 for your waifu and nothing else. It takes a fucking INSANE amount of books and mora to go from 80 to 90 for like a 5% damage boost at most.
Thats just for beating abyss though. This new abyss is hyper aids if you're aiming for all stars. keep your sanity and don't bother unless you have Ganyu.
Half means the core teams, though I definitely leveled at least 2 less important ones (C5 Fischl with the shittiest TF artifacts and support Kaeya with 4 set NO)

I have two solid DPSes, or so I like to think I do. Fully stacked HT and a slightly less Diluc lacking a pyro cup, with both having way too ER. Just got Zhongli and planning to dedicate resins to making him HP/Geo/HP with 2 set ToM/AP for shields and burst. Going for him instead of investing guoba girl since both fire girls use the same skill book.

I also have a c6 sucrose but due to crappy artifacts and benched her for that. Shame.
 
I'm just fucking happy there are no more "get 100 material" quests in the battle pass. Wonder if it's best to power up my Hu Tao's deathmatch or if any of the other weapons are worth it (only the tome seems to be particularly good and I already have a five star one).

Also got the new artifact domain set for fischl (it can still be minmaxed but seems solid enough). Wonder if the fabled 1.6 electro buff will make a big difference.
 
gosh i'm so happy i got a zhongli to support my hu tao but lack of foresight and worries of losing the 50/50 left me without artifacts or level-up materials of any kind. i also got yanfei, diona, and a noelle constellation alongside zhongli, all within 40 rolls and have a lot more fates to spare for klee rerun or possibly kazuya, whichever one i feel like getting the most
 
I'm just fucking happy there are no more "get 100 material" quests in the battle pass. Wonder if it's best to power up my Hu Tao's deathmatch or if any of the other weapons are worth it (only the tome seems to be particularly good and I already have a five star one).

Also got the new artifact domain set for fischl (it can still be minmaxed but seems solid enough). Wonder if the fabled 1.6 electro buff will make a big difference.
At first I was bummed that bp was changed but I actually hit the new weekly missions without even trying. I like it.

gosh i'm so happy i got a zhongli to support my hu tao but lack of foresight and worries of losing the 50/50 left me without artifacts or level-up materials of any kind. i also got yanfei, diona, and a noelle constellation alongside zhongli, all within 40 rolls and have a lot more fates to spare for klee rerun or possibly kazuya, whichever one i feel like getting the most
Yeah getting an unexpected 5 star is kind of the worst. So much farming ahead of you if you didnt prefarm.
 
Yeah getting an unexpected 5 star is kind of the worst. So much farming ahead of you if you didnt prefarm.
I rolled solely to get Yanfei - before getting a single Yanfei, I got 4 Noelle’s (needed two to complete Her Constellation, so free wish), Qiqi, Kequing, and 2 extra copies of Zhongli, and a random Wolf’s Gravestone

Did they fuck with the rates when 1.5 dropped? I’ve never seen that many SSR’s, and that was only in 50 Wishes (5 10 Rolls)
 
I rolled solely to get Yanfei - before getting a single Yanfei, I got 4 Noelle’s (needed two to complete Her Constellation, so free wish), Qiqi, Kequing, and 2 extra copies of Zhongli, and a random Wolf’s Gravestone

Did they fuck with the rates when 1.5 dropped? I’ve never seen that many SSR’s, and that was only in 50 Wishes (5 10 Rolls)
You just have a really good wish seed.
 
So today I decided to wish to get the points for Bennet with the free wishes on the general banner and bought wishes on the character banner (still f2p).
As regular, no five star, I got though 2 Xingqui, a Sacrifical sword, a Sacrifical bow (in the character banner somehow) and every 4 star character in the banner. Missing only 4 points so I think I'll go to the general banner just because I'm all set up with shields.

Also I think god is telling me to use water boy.
 
I'm just fucking happy there are no more "get 100 material" quests in the battle pass.
it's not like those took any effort anyway, you got a whole week to collect them which was easy when you did it while doing other stuff. if you wanted to get it done asap it took less than an hour if you memorized the spots (which shouldn't be an issue by now).
the other thing is it's not like that wasn't stuff you just collected just for the BP (maybe if you wanted to get it done asap and collected previously useless stuff like valberries and silk bloom), completely advancing a character takes 168 items, which is one and half week of BP missions alone. possible talent/weapon requirements on top, plus cooking and now housing - with the biggest irony being that now you're even more required to run around and collect 7 different types of wood, those 10 furnishings for the BP each week require mats too (even if you craft the cheapest ones constantly that resource is finite as well).

I can already see people complaining they are now "forced" to farm for shit (like qingxin when ganyu dropped) since they don't accumulate it on the side like before.

the other one isn't much better as this weekend has shown, because if you don't talk with your mates (which you need in the first place and get them to set their housing area to always available) they gonna buy their own limited stock and you'll spend your coins on useless shit like rocks just to get the BP mission done.

Definitely not half. I recommend you hyperinvest into 1 or 2 DPS characters though, it will carry you far. Maybe 8/9/8 or something depending on which of the talents you use the most and a 90 weapon. And then for your supports anywhere between 60-80 is fine with a level 80 weapon. Usually they only use their skill and burst anyway so you can just do like 1/6/8 or something.
Also reserve level 90 for your waifu and nothing else. It takes a fucking INSANE amount of books and mora to go from 80 to 90 for like a 5% damage boost at most.
weapon exp is cheap enough, you can farm that one without resin, there isn't really a reason to not have a weapon maxed (and with mona/albedo you save some resin too, but it's not that expensive to begin with, around 360 for a 4* final ascension - high estimate, probably lower by a few runs. up to lvl 80 it's something around 670).
getting a char from 80 to 90 takes 171 purple wits (+3125 exp, which you probably don't want to waste a purple 20k wit on), 144 if you stop at 89. with around 5 purple wits per blossom (this includes blue) you can somewhat estimate how long that would take. that's why you save your fragile resin for an exp event like oceanid and go HAM. mora itself is pretty cheap with only 684k, which you accumulate on the side anyway.

I'd still do the last ascension tho, even if it costs around 600-800 resin (less if you get luck with weekly bosses or grab stuff from events), personally I hate wasting exp, that's why I usually leave them at 80 or 89.
that math might be a bit off tho since I'm not sure I read their drop rate estimates correctly, mine were even more expensive.

maxed artifacts and talents at 6 are probably better "value", although I didn't run the math. artifacts at 12 and talents at 6 should work too if you bring the right chars.

and don't tell reddit you leave your supports at 60, they like to blame low level chars when they get facefucked in coop bringing nothing but DPS into a domain without even checking the leyline disorder and try to bruteforce it.
don't wanna imagine the assrape the new boss is gonna do, childe was tedious enough but doable, this one with everyone requiring shields or not getting hit (lol good luck with that) shit's gonna be fun.
 
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it's not like those took any effort anyway, you got a whole week to collect them which was easy when you did it while doing other stuff. if you wanted to get it done asap it took less than an hour if you memorized the spots (which shouldn't be an issue by now).
the other thing is it's not like that wasn't stuff you just collected just for the BP (maybe if you wanted to get it done asap and collected previously useless stuff like valberries and silk bloom), completely advancing a character takes 168 items, which is one and half week of BP missions alone. possible talent/weapon requirements on top, plus cooking and now housing - with the biggest irony being that now you're even more required to run around and collect 7 different types of wood, those 10 furnishings for the BP each week require mats too (even if you craft the cheapest ones constantly that resource is finite as well).

I can already see people complaining they are now "forced" to farm for shit (like qingxin when ganyu dropped) since they don't accumulate it on the side like before.

the other one isn't much better as this weekend has shown, because if you don't talk with your mates (which you need in the first place and get them to set their housing area to always available) they gonna buy their own limited stock and you'll spend your coins on useless shit like rocks just to get the BP mission done.


weapon exp is cheap enough, you can farm that one without resin, there isn't really a reason to not have a weapon maxed (and with mona/albedo you save some resin too, but it's not that expensive to begin with, around 360 for a 4* final ascension - high estimate, probably lower by a few runs. up to lvl 80 it's something around 670).
getting a char from 80 to 90 takes 171 purple wits (+3125 exp, which you probably don't want to waste a purple 20k wit on), 144 if you stop at 89. with around 5 purple wits per blossom (this includes blue) you can somewhat estimate how long that would take. that's why you save your fragile resin for an exp event like oceanid and go HAM. mora itself is pretty cheap with only 684k, which you accumulate on the side anyway.

I'd still do the last ascension tho, even if it costs around 600-800 resin (less if you get luck with weekly bosses or grab stuff from events), personally I hate wasting exp, that's why I usually leave them at 80 or 89.
that math might be a bit off tho since I'm not sure I read their drop rate estimates correctly, mine were even more expensive.

maxed artifacts and talents at 6 are probably better "value", although I didn't run the math. artifacts at 12 and talents at 6 should work too if you bring the right chars.

and don't tell reddit you leave your supports at 60, they like to blame low level chars when they get facefucked in coop bringing nothing but DPS into a domain without even checking the leyline disorder and try to bruteforce it.
don't wanna imagine the assrape the new boss is gonna do, childe was tedious enough but doable, this one with everyone requiring shields or not getting hit (lol good luck with that) shit's gonna be fun.
Yeah really depends on the support. Like Barbara and Diona? You can leave at like 60 if you want, all you need to do is stack the fuck out of HP/Healing Bonus/Energy Recharge on them.
Xingqiu though? I think you would want him like 70-80, he gets a lot of chip off his burst and skill especially at C4 (or w/e con it is that boosts his skill while raincutter is activated). Support DPS in general is worth ascending
I usually go for all the guaranteed power boosts before I start going back to the artifact mines. Like level 80 8/8/8 talents level 90 weapon, THEN I start dumping resin into artifacts because I know its gonna take the longest.
And yeah for your main DPS, maybe even your most valued supports, final ascension is worth it so you can get their final stat upgrade + level talents higher than 8. I'm planning on eventually doing final ascension on my Xingqiu and Venti.
 
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