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The Nothingness said:
Last night at my local indie promotion, I learned Dennis Condrey of the Midnight Express had passed away. Will Cornette mourn him the same way he did Bobby Eaton?
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So WWE acknowledges Dennis Condrey, yet when I bring up why a wrestling site didn't have cover him I get response saying he retired in 1990 and most fans never saw him wrestle :\
 
BlueArmedDevil said:
Edit: Despite some damning evidence Ted Dibiase Jr has been found not guilty.
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WHERE IS THAT PROSECUTOR! HE TRIED TO FUCK ON ME!
Caddo Cobgang said:
rumor has it Drew is either leaving or taking a break after Mania, i’m curious how they push Jacob Fatu, I imagine he will be the main guy on SmackDown for the next 3-4 years like Bron seems to be destined for on RAW, might even win the WWE title at Summerslam
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Would it not have to do with him being involved and acting in the new Highlander Reboot?
Buckaroo said:
I don't think calling him "completely fresh and not gassed" is accurate, the man has less stamina than people twice his age.
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Ron Killings is 54 and can literally outpace CM punk 10 times before Punk can even get into the ring. AJ Styles had to slow down just to compensate for Phil.
Caddo Cobgang said:
I wouldn’t specifically miss in wrestling that i think of right now when they die would be Meltzer, fucking cancerous rat
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Pretty sure Bryan Alvarez is getting sick of his shit too with the amount of clashes they have over Meltzer's dicksucking for AEW.
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Is it great to be alive on a Monday night in (insert cheap pop city here) or what? is the fucking gayest catch phrase I've ever heard someone try to get over.
Honestly though, Triple H is doing the impossible. This program is making me actually like Jey Uso.
 
My two cents on Punk and age: I'm not the biggest Punk fan, but I cut him slack where it's warranted. It's not so much his age as it is wear-and-tear on his body. Before he left in 2014, Punk had a laundry list of fresh injuries, MRSA, several concussions, nagging injuries from what was already a 10-15 year career at that point.

Untreated injuries, 360 days on the road, plus a consistent vegetarian/vegan diet which arguably isn't the best diet for an athlete to have, aged Punk ten extra years. It's a lot of why he got destroyed in UFC against two guys 15 years his junior, with nowhere near the mileage Punk had on him. It's why he places dead last in weekend warrior BJJ tournaments going up against guys who never lived the lifestyle of a traveling pro wrestler.

Its fun to laugh at Punk, but I'm not so blinded by my dislike of the guy to disregard the handicap he had in his athletic endeavors post-2014.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
My two cents on Punk and age: I'm not the biggest Punk fan, but I cut him slack where it's warranted. It's not so much his age as it is wear-and-tear on his body. Before he left in 2014, Punk had a laundry list of fresh injuries, MRSA, several concussions, nagging injuries from what was already a 10-15 year career at that point.

Untreated injuries, 360 days on the road, plus a consistent vegetarian/vegan diet which arguably isn't the best diet for an athlete to have, aged Punk ten extra years. It's a lot of why he got destroyed in UFC against two guys 15 years his junior, with nowhere near the mileage Punk had on him. It's why he places dead last in weekend warrior BJJ tournaments going up against guys who never lived the lifestyle of a traveling pro wrestler.

Its fun to laugh at Punk, but I'm not so blinded by my dislike of the guy to disregard the handicap he had in his athletic endeavors post-2014.
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Why would you not laugh at someone who fails the basic fundamentals of being an athlete and embarrasses himself as a result?
 
Jeff Dunham said:
It's a lot of why he got destroyed in UFC against two guys 15 years his junior
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No, he lost because he didn't even bother to practice the fundamentals of MMA.

Jeff Dunham said:
Its fun to laugh at Punk, but I'm not so blinded by my dislike of the guy to disregard the handicap he had in his athletic endeavors post-2014.
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There are plenty of handicapped people that I don't mock, but they have the common sense to not put their flabby old man bodies on national TV and pretend to be a tough guy even when they get winded before the match even starts.
 
Buckaroo said:
No, he lost because he didn't even bother to practice the fundamentals of MMA.
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It's just like his muscles. He doesn't bother to work on anything important that would actually help him in the ring like cardio, legs, back, core, et cetera. He just works on stuff like his biceps and shit that looks good aesthetically.
Jacob is the exact opposite, he couldn't give a fuck about how he looks. He looks like the fat drunk Hawaiian uncle of your girlfriend who married into the family and always gets in a fight and has the cops called on him at every cookout.
When the bell rings though we see what matters. Punk gets blown the fuck up immediately and Jacob does a backflip from the top turn buckle onto the announce desk and then sprint's out to the parking lot, smokes a cigarette and comes back to go another 20 minutes.
 
Lip Glossary said:
It's just like his muscles. He doesn't bother to work on anything important that would actually help him in the ring like cardio, legs, back, core, et cetera. He just works on stuff like his biceps and shit that looks good aesthetically.
Jacob is the exact opposite, he couldn't give a fuck about how he looks. He looks like the fat drunk Hawaiian uncle of your girlfriend who married into the family and always gets in a fight and has the cops called on him at every cookout.
When the bell rings though we see what matters. Punk gets blown the fuck up immediately and Jacob does a backflip from the top turn buckle onto the announce desk and then sprint's out to the parking lot, smokes a cigarette and comes back to go another 20 minutes.
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It also shows with how bad/good their voice acting is in the WWE games. Punk sounds like he's sleepwalking while reading his dialog, while Jacob sounds just like how he is on TV.

But to be fair, most of the voice acting by wrestlers in the WWE 2K games suck, with a few exceptions like Jacob, Samoa Joe, R-Truth, and Drew McIntyre.
 
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Jeff Dunham said:
My two cents on Punk and age: I'm not the biggest Punk fan, but I cut him slack where it's warranted. It's not so much his age as it is wear-and-tear on his body. Before he left in 2014, Punk had a laundry list of fresh injuries, MRSA, several concussions, nagging injuries from what was already a 10-15 year career at that point.

Untreated injuries, 360 days on the road, plus a consistent vegetarian/vegan diet which arguably isn't the best diet for an athlete to have, aged Punk ten extra years. It's a lot of why he got destroyed in UFC against two guys 15 years his junior, with nowhere near the mileage Punk had on him. It's why he places dead last in weekend warrior BJJ tournaments going up against guys who never lived the lifestyle of a traveling pro wrestler.

Its fun to laugh at Punk, but I'm not so blinded by my dislike of the guy to disregard the handicap he had in his athletic endeavors post-2014.
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Punk has never been an athletic guy, even when he was healthy. Which is why the whole UFC thing was such a joke from the onset.

He shouldn't be headlining Wrestlemania but in terms of marquee stars, he's probably one of the biggest. Even though he's become exactly the guy he used to bitch about.

I also didn't realize he's on a vegan diet. lmao
 
Simple Curiosity said:
Why would you not laugh at someone who fails the basic fundamentals of being an athlete and embarrasses himself as a result?
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I said "it's fun to laugh at Punk". His hubris and arrogance is not lost on me that he went into the UFC, high on his own hype from fake fighting for 15 years, thinking he was going to be the next Brock. All I'm saying is that he might have had a crumb of a chance at looking at least decent in his fights if he wasn't wearing 15 years of pro wrestling wear-and-tear. I'm not defending him, I'm looking at his situation objectively.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
All I'm saying is that he might have had a crumb of a chance at looking at least decent in his fights if he wasn't wearing 15 years of pro wrestling wear-and-tear.
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This is objectively not true though and I can tell you don't know how he lost his fights. He could have been at his physical peak (lmao) and he still would have been tapped out by Mickey Gall because he simply did not know what he was doing. CM Punk does not know how to fight, it's as simple as that.
 
Well Intentioned said:
You're kind of retarded if you don't think MMA fighters aren't subjected to similar while learning their craft.
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You're kind of retarded if you think MMA and pro wrestling are in the same space. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Buckaroo said:
This is objectively not true though and I can tell you don't know how he lost his fights. He could have been at his physical peak (lmao) and he still would have been tapped out by Mickey Gall because he simply did not know what he was doing. CM Punk does not know how to fight, it's as simple as that.
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If you think it's that simple of an argument, sure dude.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
If you think it's that simple of an argument, sure dude.
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I think both things can be true at the same time. Sure he had a terrible diet and didn't train and wasn't in his peak and had had injuries, but he also at his core does not know how to fight because he's a fucking pussy with a glass jaw.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
You're kind of retarded if you think MMA and pro wrestling are in the same space. You're comparing apples and oranges.
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Please elaborate.

Jeff Dunham said:
If you think it's that simple of an argument, sure dude.
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It pretty much is, and anyone who has an understanding of fundamentals can see Punk made a bunch of rookie mistakes pretty much from the first second of his fight.

He charged in without even considering a potential takedown or protecting himself and....that's exactly what happened. From there on in it was a comedy of errors that you see white belts making in their first roll against someone and Gall just controlling him.


Watch it yourself. Rogan is absolutely savaging him on commentary but he's also absolutely correct -- this is what happens when a white belt rolls with a brown belt.
 
Lip Glossary said:
I think both things can be true at the same time. Sure he had a terrible diet and didn't train and wasn't in his peak and had had injuries, but he also at his core does not know how to fight because he's a fucking pussy with a glass jaw.
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I can agree with that. The point was simply Punk would've embarrassed himself less if in somewhat better shape.
 
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