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crunchy bits are the best said:
WWE in the late 2010's was just unwatchable at that point, the McMahons hogging the screen was so bad they had to break character and acknowledge that they had shake things up. That era was so bad I was clamoring for AEW to succeed.
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its why I basically take no stock in the opinions any one who started watching after 2019, Vince had clearly lost his mind by then, the biggest criticism of HHH's booking is that its too too formulaic and a little too predictable, but it still beats anything that was going on in the late 2010s, and if you gave these fans the book it would be like a disabled 2nd grader in a candy store, they literally would strap the rocket to whoever they liked before they were ready for the main event scene, the product would be on-par with the Vinceslop era but it would be TikTok Booking instead of Balor vs Lesnar
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
its why I basically take no stock in the opinions any one who started watching after 2019, Vince had clearly lost his mind by then, the biggest criticism of HHH's booking is that its too too formulaic and a little too predictable, but it still beats anything that was going on in the late 2010s, and if you gave these fans the book it would be like a disabled 2nd grader in a candy store, they literally would strap the rocket to whoever they liked before they were ready for the main event scene, the product would be on-par with the Vinceslop era but it would be TikTok Booking instead of Balor vs Lesnar
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I had to stop listening to YT armchair analysts/bookers a long time ago, they're like "I'm a better booker than whoever is in charge of WWE" every time. If you're such a great booker then why aren't you in WWE/AEW? They'll sperg harder than a child on sugar rush when their favorite wrestler isn't a champion/main eventer.
 
Were a month or so out what are the odds Punk brings up Rosey being SHIT and Jamal being the savage stereotype Kamala of the 2000s?
 
You can tell Roman is holding back in these segments. There's so much material to work with on Punk and the worst thing Roman has called him is old. They're trying to make Roman the heel of this feud by informally bringing the Bloodline back together but Punk bringing up a dead dad for no reason makes him the bigger asshole. Roman should call Punk an impotent cuck for being married for a decade and not getting his wife pregnant but instead treating a little rat dog like a child, as an example.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
they literally would strap the rocket to whoever they liked before they were ready for the main event scene,
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They already did that with Stephanie Vaquer who's a medium talent and can't even cut promos in English, Bron Breaker who is mid and about as capable on the mic as diarrhea Ripley, and the old man who can go on the mic but turns into a winded tomato after 2 minutes in the ring and has no business closing out a Wrestlemania or holding the belt for this long.
But Stephanie has a big fat South American dumper, Bron is a big guy with a famous family, and the winded tomato was allowed to cut a mediocre worked shoot promo in 2011 when Cena hatred was at its peak, so fat men in their 40s will forever be in love with him.
Kermit the Frog said:
You can tell Roman is holding back in these segments. There's so much material to work with on Punk and the worst thing Roman has called him is old. They're trying to make Roman the heel of this feud by informally bringing the Bloodline back together but Punk bringing up a dead dad for no reason makes him the bigger asshole. Roman should call Punk an impotent cuck for being married for a decade and not getting his wife pregnant but instead treating a little rat dog like a child, as an example.
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Just bringing up the fact that he got his ass beat in pretty much every real fight he was ever in except Luke Perry's son is enough material to own him forever.
I do fear that fragile Phil is making it so that Roman can't say anything like that. Remember that child molester Punk is an amazing politician backstage.
If they really wanted to drop a nuke Roman should bring up that Punk supports transing kids and that he misgendered and called a fan a homophobic slur the last time he was employed in WWE, and that if the audience at home doesn't believe him they can see it on you tube.
I mean if you want to go nuclear, let's go fucking NUCLEAR.
 
I'm not much of a fan of WWE but fuck me the announced matches so far for Mania are rough.

Liv Morgan is in one of the title matches and i genuinely thought they'd given her the boot a few years ago and she was and Onlyfans model now.
 
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Josh's second most favorite wrassler is going to revive his promotion.
 
Rate me late or whatever, but reading about the AEW Revolution Main Event "controversy", I just feel like it's a bad idea to cross streams too much. It's fine to have a pure wrestling show with occasional comedy, but to have a pure wrestling show for about 3-4 (maybe more) hours and end it with a death match that has a sick syringe spot is just asking for trouble.

Look, I'm fine to watch death match stuff occasionally. But I purposely seek out stuff like BJW, old CZW or random backyard wrestling when I want to watch a car crash. You can't have sick shit like that in the main event of a relatively mainstream promotion and not expect it to be, at the least, very jarring. Hell, the most ECW had was barbed wire and scaffolds, this shit is beyond that.

Also, can Tiny please coordinate so half the matches on the card don't have similar spots, that would be cool. Maybe that's why the main eventers feel like they need to jab syringes through their cheeks, they knew no one else would do that!
 
Mid dynamite tonight, the crowd being absolutely dog shit didn't help.
 
Kermit the Frog said:
You can tell Roman is holding back in these segments. There's so much material to work with on Punk and the worst thing Roman has called him is old. They're trying to make Roman the heel of this feud by informally bringing the Bloodline back together but Punk bringing up a dead dad for no reason makes him the bigger asshole. Roman should call Punk an impotent cuck for being married for a decade and not getting his wife pregnant but instead treating a little rat dog like a child, as an example.
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Roman both deserve to silently see the AND be buried alive as the worthless anti-draw faggot he is. And again, Punk delivering the burial is perfect karma, because the bulk of the fans are pro-Punk and explicitly stopped watching the WWE when Punk left and fans got stuck with Roman and his D-List buddies and nepo clan.

For all you can say about Punk, at least people like him as opposed to Ro an, who is the biggest anti-draw in wrestling and only got stopped because of the equivalent of Superman and Lex Luther teaming up in terms of Hunter and Cody cock blocking Roman and Rock.
 
I've been absurdly busy with work and finally made it back to the wife and kid. So the boy and I watched the AAA event.

I got to say that it's unreal how much effort Ludwig has put into the Grande Americano.

His Spanish, and especially his Mexican slang, is on point. It would be like Pentagon suddenly speaking nearly perfect English. And he throws in references to Luchador that clearly shows his homework, like using the specific phrasing the original Octagón used when he confronted and ripped off a mask of a young wrester AAA was using to play his character (this was not an actual storyline and the lawsuits are still going on years and years later over the IP). The fan service is unfucking real for what was supposed to be a stupid, throw away character.

It's like how Dusty Rhodes got over in the WWF with a terrible gimmick (the poka dot shit).

I mark out when a wrestler goes all in on a bad/dead end gimmick and beyond all odds, it catches with an audience.

And it's so funny to me how the whole Grande Americana shit still manages to trigger morons on the internet. It's on par with gringos not getting that "latinx" shit is retarded to Spanish speakers.
 
Dorkwan said:
Honestly flabbergasted that people believe Roman "Sufferin' Succotash" Reigns promos being weak are just because he's holding back.
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To be fair, it is a bit of an easy layup to dunk on Punk if one is motivated.

But Roman would likely get torn to shreds if they were both allowed to say whatever they wanted.
 
Dorkwan said:
Honestly flabbergasted that people believe Roman "Sufferin' Succotash" Reigns promos being weak are just because he's holding back.
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I can't believe there's marks holding a grudge against a guy that got handed in promos that sucked 32 different flavors of dick over a decade ago.

But let me guess: you think the "le pipebomb" was a shoot? :shit-eating:
 
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